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I have a question, and a rather stupid one. But it seems to follow me everywhere and I'd like to hear other peoples opinions. This is for those of you who have read FR Books, Tolkein Books, and the Shannara Series.
If Elminster, Walker Boh, and Gandalf got into a fight (ah the classic question), who would win.
I realize its a silly question, but I'd like to hear some of your thought on it.
Hmm, don't think the idea of measuring them with eachother is that silly an idea. In fact there has been a discussion (but without the fighting). You can read that thread here
I believe Elminster would win because Gandalf is a bit reliant on his sword and Elminster has spells of protection. Walker Boh is good but only has one arm Elminster has him on that.
We live in a bleak world my friend, where heroes are few and shadows stalk us around every corner. -Mikai Daerni
I don't know who would win, it's a though question. Walker Boh is is a really powerfull druid, but besting Gandalf and Elminister, I don't think so. I assume that it's a total war fight, the three at the same time. Gandalf is a wildcard, in LoTR we only see a glimpse of his powers at least that's what I feel. If you have read Stories from middle earth you know what I mean. Oh, yes and Elminister, he would probably win the fight, I guess. But what if Walker and Gandalf decides to team up. Would they bee powerfull enough to overthrow Elminister?
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant - Miyamoto Musashi
I don't really know who this Walker Guy is btw, I (ofcourse) do know who Elminster and Gandalf are Elminster is a mighty one chosen by Mystra, like Gandalf is somewhat created by the Maia, and is some sort of half god or atleast in AD&D therms, a Hero, but afterall the world where Elminster in lives has more Gods than the world where Gandalf in lives, afterthat i think that there powers are somewhat the same because they are 'Chosen' but afterthat I think Gandalf is more on his own (because the Maia don't interfere that much) and Elminsters can easily use the powers of his god Mystra, so i think that Elminster shall win.. (Btw don't hope that there any tolkien hooligans here..
Once the Menzoberrenzan Drow run away from the Drow Practices in other cities. Then they settled Menzoberrenzan, and prayed to there evil and mad godess Lolth, the Spider Queen. Then they turned the same way has there far away cousins (isn't that ironic)
I just hade an idea reading your text, correct me if I am wrong.
If there are more gods in Faerun than there's in Middle earth. Dosn't that meant that there are more power for use for the singular gods, henche more of the power. Just a thought. Walker Boh is a druid/mage given power by the dead druids if I remeber correctly.
I came up with another on today Belgarath (David Eddings) and Milamber (Pug of Stardock) (Raymond. E. Feist). Guess you could say that it was a quite day at work.
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant - Miyamoto Musashi
Until we can actually see that battle their will really be no clear winner. They all are strong so it depends on which spells they use. But what will happen when they all run out of spells and they are all still standing?
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me.
Given the fact that all these wizards come from different worlds with different laws of magic, the discussion is something like comparing apples to pears... And even if one would translate these wizards into D&D terms to try and compare apples to apples, it is still only a matter of personal perspective.
Edited by - Mumadar Ibn Huzal on 10 Jan 2003 17:16:49
You also have to take in the consideration that all of them are more or likely exhausted from the battle with magic. So you would not know who would win because their effectiveness would go down in the battle.
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me.
Though I like both Walker Boh and Gandalf, I say that Elminster will when. Walker is a Druid after all so he will have to be Neutral (though I must admit I'm not sure if in Terry Brooks world if alignment goes with class)so if he attacks it will be at both. Unless he sees that one is more powerfull than the other.
Between Elminster and Gandalf though. Clearly Elminster. He has Silverfire after all. El rules.
Okay that is with weapons but who will win when there are no weapons, there weapons are going, who will when then ?
Once the Menzoberrenzan Drow run away from the Drow Practices in other cities. Then they settled Menzoberrenzan, and prayed to there evil and mad godess Lolth, the Spider Queen. Then they turned the same way has there far away cousins (isn't that ironic)
Hmm, a good old fist fight. If Walker Boh new I think it was jujutsu he can do a an attack that is unblockable, well you could block it. If your attacker has two arms that is. The other two are just "old farts", here at least Walker should have some use of his young age.
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant - Miyamoto Musashi
Looking at the FRCS the other day I was looking at Elminster's stats and key items. I noticed that Elminster has a Mantle of Spell Protection, so i'm pretty sure Elminster would win.
We live in a bleak world my friend, where heroes are few and shadows stalk us around every corner. -Mikai Daerni
So all Eliminster has to do is sit back and watch Gandalf and Walker beat each other up then he can just blow up the winner with magic sword or unarmed.
Some believe there is something more after death, if you really want to find out... go kill yourself and stop pestering me.
Ah, that brings up another good point. Walker Boh and Gandalf arn't restricted to the rules of D&D. Elminster would only be able to cast so many spells before he had to resort to other means of fighting.
Indeed, but Elminster is chosen of Mystra. And Walker Boh is a druid and not even a full mage. I'm not completely sure of Gandalf though. It may be that Elminster's mantle may not work aginst Walker Boh and Gandalf. I do not doubt Walker's and Gandalf's skill and magic but Elminster is very powerful himself.
We live in a bleak world my friend, where heroes are few and shadows stalk us around every corner. -Mikai Daerni
They are all choosen, Gandalf by that female goddes, I suggest you read all of the post's. Elminister by Mystra. Walker Boh by Alanon and the council of dead druids.
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant - Miyamoto Musashi
And plus, Walker was trained by Cogline (who could take all three of them ), so he knows how to make all of the exploding potions and powders of the old world sciences.
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Posted - 24 Dec 2002 : 00:56:25
