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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 00:36:27
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Return of the Archwizards
Forsaken House
Those 2 novel series aside, what other tombs (novel or accessory) hold vast quantities of knowledge regarding Evereska?
PS.. I'll even take websites if there's anything completely devoted to Evereska.
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Edited by - SirUrza on 09 Jan 2005 05:08:44
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 01:51:21
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I can't think of a single FR product yet published that holds "vast quantities of knowledge" on Evereska. I think it was purposely left a bit of a blank slate for a long while to add mystery to the place. Good luck in your search. Of course, you could always ... <ahem> ... make some stuff up ...
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 06:09:56
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| Darn, I was hoping that I wouldn't have to carefully page through Return of the Archwizards for all the detail I could get on Evereska. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 08:25:50
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I was watching the 'extra DVDs' on Fellowship of the Ring last night and couldn't help but compare Rivendell with Evereska.
Both do seem to have somewhat of a similar feeling to them, and are in a 'lost and forgotten' valley as sort of a refuge amidst the turmoil of the world. It does seem that Rivendell is a bit more open to outsiders compared to Evereska.
So in absence of 'official' lore on Evereska, Rivendell might serve as a source for ideas. |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 16:32:45
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I talked about Evereska with Ed Greenwood at a convention earlier this year in Hamilton, Ontario, and he said there's very little info on it, AND that he couldn't "legally say more." (!!) I guess that's an NDA.  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 17:32:09
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Originally posted by Blueblade
I talked about Evereska with Ed Greenwood at a convention earlier this year in Hamilton, Ontario, and he said there's very little info on it, AND that he couldn't "legally say more." (!!) I guess that's an NDA.
Well given the upcoming Year of Risen Elfkin perhaps we will see more stories and products detailing Evereska. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 19:26:14
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| So I have to wait till 2006 for Evereska AND more post-Return of the Jedi Star Wars. 2005 is the Year of Suck. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 10 Jan 2005 : 01:40:57
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Originally posted by SirUrza
So I have to wait till 2006 for Evereska AND more post-Return of the Jedi Star Wars. 2005 is the Year of Suck.
And two weeks before Revenge of the Sith, the movie Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy comes out... 
You could also ask Elaine Cunningham about Evereska, since bits of Elfshadow happen there... She might have more info to offer. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Jan 2005 : 05:38:25
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Originally posted by SirUrza
So I have to wait till 2006 for Evereska AND more post-Return of the Jedi Star Wars. 2005 is the Year of Suck.
Well, we do get Richard Baker's next novel in 2005. While the story seems to be shifting to another area of Faerun, perhaps The Farthest Reach will have some bit of information about Evereska. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2005 : 20:59:06
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Well, we do get Richard Baker's next novel in 2005. While the story seems to be shifting to another area of Faerun, perhaps The Farthest Reach will have some bit of information about Evereska.
As much as I like novels, I hate searching through them for information. So far I've skimmed through the first 50 pages of The Summoning and have 3 1/2 pages of notes. :) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Jan 2005 : 21:26:07
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Originally posted by SirUrza
As much as I like novels, I hate searching through them for information. So far I've skimmed through the first 50 pages of The Summoning and have 3 1/2 pages of notes. :)
I think that's about the same amount of notes I took when reading Forsaken House. I love that novel. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Jan 2005 : 03:46:18
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I think that's about the same amount of notes I took when reading Forsaken House. I love that novel.
What'd you take notes on? :)
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"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Jan 2005 : 06:14:10
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Originally posted by SirUrza
What'd you take notes on? :)
Everything I thought was interesting and/or might be useful as a source of inspiration or detail for my FR world.
The only FR book I've ever actually sat down, made little notes, typed them out, and now have them saved in a sheet protector. Yes, again to Richard Baker...fantastic job. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Jan 2005 : 06:45:05
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| If any of the notes were on Evereska could ya copy&paste them? :) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 Jan 2005 : 11:25:32
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Originally posted by SirUrza
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I think that's about the same amount of notes I took when reading Forsaken House. I love that novel.
What'd you take notes on? :)
A piece of paper, most likely.  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Jan 2005 : 14:13:57
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Originally posted by SirUrza
If any of the notes were on Evereska could ya copy&paste them? :)
From the novel? I thought you had already taken notes from that source? |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Jan 2005 : 17:17:57
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
From the novel? I thought you had already taken notes from that source?
No, I just didn't want some telling me it had Evereska in it when I already knew that. :) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 13 Jan 2005 : 23:37:23
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| I guess by your silence SB that you didn't take any Evereska notes? |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 02:42:47
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Originally posted by SirUrza
I guess by your silence SB that you didn't take any Evereska notes?
No, just haven't had the chance to look through my notes as of yet. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 03:04:32
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| Ahh alrighty. Post them if you got them, don't do anything special if you don't have anything prepared. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 04:28:26
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Ahh alrighty. Post them if you got them, don't do anything special if you don't have anything prepared.
Here's what I have from my notes. Most are very brief as I was mainly just wanting an index for what pages I could go to in order to find out more information:
Top of Page 89: Brief update on Evereska's status. If I recall it's Sarya detailing that the city is still ripe for the taking.
Top of Page 108: Evereska's Age. Here we learn that Evereska is almost as old as Evermeet itself. I did not know this fact. Anyone have the exact date of either founding?
Bottom of Page 173: Part of Evereska is described, the high peaks of the Shaeradim that conceals the valley to be specific.
Top of Page 174: Lord Duirsar, a moon elf elder and Leader of the Hill Council is described.
Bottom of Page 175: Further description of Evereska's losses. The whole of the Tomb Guard, most of the Vale Guard, and better than half the Swords of Evereska are listed as lost. The mythal is also described as weak still.
Top of Page 200: A more detailed description of Evereska's streets including signs of destruction still present to the eye.
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That's all I have. It's not much, but it's something at least and I hope it helps.
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 22:37:27
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| Thanks, helps a lot. :) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 23:41:39
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Thanks, helps a lot. :)
You're welcome. I like helping with any elf lore. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 18 Jan 2005 : 00:47:57
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Top of Page 108: Evereska's Age. Here we learn that Evereska is almost as old as Evermeet itself. I did not know this fact. Anyone have the exact date of either founding?
Evereska was founded in -8600 DR (see Cormanthyr, p.32). On my reckoning, soon to be confirmed, Evermeet was founded a while before that - "almost as old" probably isn't quite right.
Oh, and to be pedantic, there is a difference between the date of Evermeet's creation and its settlement by mainland elves.
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Jan 2005 : 01:02:05
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c. -24000 DR
1. (~) The Sundering. Hundreds of High Magi gathered in the heartland of Faerūn at the Gathering Place. Ignoring the lesson learned from the destruction of Tintageer centuries earlier, the High Magi cast a spell designed to create a glorious elven homeland. As the Day of Birthing dawned, the spell reached its apex. The unbridled force of the spell sunders Faerūn, the one land, apart. As a result, hundred of cities are washed away, thousands of elves lie dead, and the face of Abeir-Toril is changed forever. The name Faerūn, no longer the one land, was given to largest continent. Evermeet, Island of Elves, is created. The Tree of Souls is given to the elves.
-9800 DR
1. The Vyshantaar Empire's forces occupy all elven realms (save Keltormir) from the High Forest of Aryvandaar to the sweltering southern forests of ilythiir. They begin the colonization and settlement of Evermeet.
-833 DR
1. The elves begin their great exodus to the island of Evermeet. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Jan 2005 : 01:22:04
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-9000 to
-3859
The Rise of Civilization/The Founding Time: This era signals the rise of all the humanoid civilizations, as the many dragons and giants were long overthrown and the elven wars no longer loomed over everyone as a threat. The elven realms of Evereska and Evermeet grow by colonization along with other realms, from the human Unther or Coramshan to the dwarven realms of High Shanatar or Oghrann. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Jan 2005 : 01:53:30
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| Hehe, well any other tidbits about Everska anyone may have collected, including novel info from Archwizard trilogy would be useful. :) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
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Kentinal
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Posted - 18 Jan 2005 : 02:43:27
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1335 DR [Year of the Snow Winds]
The Evereska Charter claims the Greycloak Hills for the elves.
1372 DR [Year of the Wild Magic] (14 PR)
Evereska, one of the last remaining elven strongholds in Faerūn, is besieged by hordes of phaerimm and their thralls. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Jan 2005 : 03:58:00
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Evermeet was founded a while before that - "almost as old" probably isn't quite right.
Take it up with Gervas Imesfor then.  Just remember these are elves speaking, "almost as old" could easily mean several centuries. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Jan 2005 : 04:07:50
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Originally posted by Kentinal
c. -24000 DR
1. (~) The Sundering. Hundreds of High Magi gathered in the heartland of Faerūn at the Gathering Place. Ignoring the lesson learned from the destruction of Tintageer centuries earlier, the High Magi cast a spell designed to create a glorious elven homeland. As the Day of Birthing dawned, the spell reached its apex. The unbridled force of the spell sunders Faerūn, the one land, apart. As a result, hundred of cities are washed away, thousands of elves lie dead, and the face of Abeir-Toril is changed forever. The name Faerūn, no longer the one land, was given to largest continent. Evermeet, Island of Elves, is created. The Tree of Souls is given to the elves.
This is a date chosen by the author of the timeline you got it from, taken in turn from the information in Elaine's "Evermeet" novel. It's not a 'canonical' dating as it hasn't appeared in print (dated that is) in either novel or gaming products. It'll do for now. Well, for another month at least.
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-9800 DR
1. The Vyshantaar Empire's forces occupy all elven realms (save Keltormir) from the High Forest of Aryvandaar to the sweltering southern forests of ilythiir. They begin the colonization and settlement of Evermeet.
Good pick up. I'd forgotten about this reference from Cormanthyr. Maybe this is considered the 'founding' date of Evermeet as an elven realm - although there are green elves and avariel (I think) already there.
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-833 DR
1. The elves begin their great exodus to the island of Evermeet.
Not sure where this date is from. Again, could be extrapolated from Elaine's work.
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What do ye' old tomes have on Everska?
