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Archwizard
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Posted - 24 Aug 2007 :  03:07:36  Show Profile  Visit Archwizard's Homepage Send Archwizard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Neato! Ed's backlog of articles are finally coming through.




These aren't all Ed's articles. 'Realmslore' is the new title for the digital Dragon's regular FR column. Anyone and everyone is qualified to submit a proposal and write for it. Given the advent of 4E they are specifically looking for lore-driven pieces with a specific focus on geography and visiting and fleshing out hitherto undetailed little corners of the Realms. So got to it all you budding FR scribes and loremasters!

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That really worries me. I hope that the editors are strict and well-verse in the Realms themselves to keep things on the level.
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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 24 Aug 2007 :  18:43:46  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the first of these new realmslore, The Tomb of the Astronomer, is a very good article, IMHO.

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Reefy
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Posted - 24 Aug 2007 :  23:29:58  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like it, but there's one thing that I wasn't so sure about - I thought the Twisted Rune operated under incredibly high levels of security. This makes me wonder how much Dulmanico would know about them and why he would suspect them, as well as why the Rune haven't taken steps against him meddling in their affairs. Of course, they could have their own reasons and string him along for their own ends, but it just seemed a little odd to me.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 :  01:07:37  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My reaction to the latest Realmslore article? Indifference.

*shrug*

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 :  05:40:37  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really like Rich Bakers new entry . . . it felt a lot more Realmsian than the last new entry to my way of thinking:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20070829a
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Xysma
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 :  18:37:53  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I really like Rich Bakers new entry . . . it felt a lot more Realmsian than the last new entry to my way of thinking:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20070829a



You beat me to it KEJr. I like this one too, it has many interesting tidbits and hooks, I think I can build a whole campaign around this one.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  00:17:07  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree, this new entry was more interesting and more Realmsian. Great pictures, too!

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George Krashos
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  22:27:13  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very nice.

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  05:55:46  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Too bad that the download button at the bottom is to the Tomb of the Astronomer article...
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  11:42:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
New Realmslore from Rich Baker!

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GRYPHON
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  12:16:22  Show Profile Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting...

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  16:11:59  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good article. Reference to Gem Magic (who says that it don´t work?), and a lich with a solid background and a good reason to be stalking the players.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  16:24:37  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

Good article. Reference to Gem Magic (who says that it don´t work?), and a lich with a solid background and a good reason to be stalking the players.



Yes, I was impressed with that myself. Nice article.

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freyar
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  17:12:37  Show Profile  Visit freyar's Homepage Send freyar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I liked this article a lot myself, just as I liked Brian James's last issue (ugh, how weird to say that about what used to be free web content). One thing I noticed, though, that may be indicative of 4e FR in light of other comments designers have made about 4e D&D in general: both of these articles are about adventure locations or villains. Then think about Ed's Realmslore articles that are a lot more about life in Faerun, details in depth. I know a number of people make fun of "roofing tiles of the Realms" (well, probably not here at Candlekeep ), but FR will be much poorer IMO if WotC has decided that these details have no place in the game.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 06 Dec 2007 :  20:27:49  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by freyar
One thing I noticed, though, that may be indicative of 4e FR in light of other comments designers have made about 4e D&D in general: both of these articles are about adventure locations or villains. Then think about Ed's Realmslore articles that are a lot more about life in Faerun, details in depth. I know a number of people make fun of "roofing tiles of the Realms" (well, probably not here at Candlekeep ), but FR will be much poorer IMO if WotC has decided that these details have no place in the game.



That's a keen observation. The details about what life in the Realms is like is important to me, too.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Hawkins
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Posted - 07 Dec 2007 :  18:30:58  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by freyar
One thing I noticed, though, that may be indicative of 4e FR in light of other comments designers have made about 4e D&D in general: both of these articles are about adventure locations or villains. Then think about Ed's Realmslore articles that are a lot more about life in Faerun, details in depth. I know a number of people make fun of "roofing tiles of the Realms" (well, probably not here at Candlekeep ), but FR will be much poorer IMO if WotC has decided that these details have no place in the game.

That's a keen observation. The details about what life in the Realms is like is important to me, too.

I feel that way as well.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  11:34:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They snuck another one out... More Realmslore from Rich Baker.

The Tribes of Thar

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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  15:28:18  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by freyar
I know a number of people make fun of "roofing tiles of the Realms" (well, probably not here at Candlekeep ), but FR will be much poorer IMO if WotC has decided that these details have no place in the game.
The approach seems to be consistent, as in Races and Classes:
quote:
We wanted deities to be designed for play in the D&D world. Sure, it’s realistic in a sociological sense to have a deity of doorways or of agriculture, but it’s hard to figure out how a cleric who worships such a deity honors his god by going on adventures.
And of course this is a terrible fit with a setting that pioneered monster ecologies, lore-defined magic items and spellbooks, and a world built as a world and not around a central narrative (Krynn) or D&D (Greyhawk).

And Wizards have apparently struggled to find a marketing-speak hook to describe the Realms: well, it's hard for a setting to have a unique selling point if it's forced to conform at every stage to the rest of D&D.
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GRYPHON
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  17:00:08  Show Profile Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tribes of Thar...interesting article...

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Matthus
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  17:09:50  Show Profile Send Matthus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm dm'ing Mysteries of the Moonsea at the moment, ma players just leaved Melvaunt - what a happy coincidence .

Maybe there will be some intereting meetings
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  20:22:24  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great stuff all around since I left the Realms a few months ago. I am thinking of printing off all these great bits of Realmslore and putting them in a binder. I was wondering if any other Sages do this? I know I've done it with a few of the free "old edition" downloads (though as my collection grew, I decided to buy a lot of them for myself).

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood

Edited by - Mazrim_Taim on 19 Dec 2007 20:23:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

Great stuff all around since I left the Realms a few months ago. I am thinking of printing off all these great bits of Realmslore and putting them in a binder. I was wondering if any other Sages do this? I know I've done it with a few of the free "old edition" downloads (though as my collection grew, I decided to buy a lot of them for myself).



Everything of interest gets printed onto paper; I don’t trust computers and I hate reading of them. Of course there is the trouble of where to fit more bookshelves.
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Matthus
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  13:10:53  Show Profile Send Matthus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I also transport them in paper - as I'm not one of the laptop users.

Usually I don’t find the time to put them into binders – but I have a lot of piles on my desk
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Hawkins
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Posted - 15 Jan 2008 :  02:01:48  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
New bit of Realmslore - The Wailing Dwarf

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quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

New bit of Realmslore - The Wailing Dwarf



Other then WotC requiring me to login in everytime I want to view a page, the article has little to offer. Fall to Death or get short cut to first room the risk. Protect against the risk and you take a little longer to reach the same room. After that you find "Thousands of empty chambers" with some risk of encountering foes.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 15 Jan 2008 :  02:36:57  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, this article in particular appear very "empty" to me....

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crazedventurers
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Posted - 15 Jan 2008 :  09:46:43  Show Profile  Visit crazedventurers's Homepage Send crazedventurers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

Yes, this article in particular appear very "empty" to me....



I just found myself wryly laughing at the weak description of the 'heroes' and their 'legendary' equipment.

And then came even more bemused by the Naga's imprisonment of the trolls and them nibbling on them when they want.

I can only assume that Bruce had to write this in about 15 mins or so?

Damian

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 15 Jan 2008 :  12:35:09  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I stay with this impression, too.

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freyar
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Posted - 15 Jan 2008 :  16:09:35  Show Profile  Visit freyar's Homepage Send freyar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, not enough there to keep my interest all the way down the page.

Still, this reinforces my impression that "Realmslore" now just means adventuring locales, not the details of life. This one is especially disappointing in that there is no mention of how the Wailing Dwarf fits into history at all.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 16 Jan 2008 :  03:07:27  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My understanding re "Realmslore" articles in Dragon is that due to the transition from 3E to 4E they can't feature any "rules" - i.e. stats. So effectively this rules out any article featuring creatures, people etc., even if they are mentioned in passing. I suspect that you will see lots of "places" dealt with up until the 4E rules are released and even then, other types of articles may have to wait until the 4E campaign guide is released. I note that this last bit is pure speculation on my part.

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