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kaeso
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 05:03:32
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 Oh well, he's still awesome |
Great literature is escapist, but it changes you, and you come back to your world with new eyes. D&D is the first game that's ever done that for me.
-Sumana Harihareswara |
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kaeso
Acolyte
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 20:43:51
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| Does anyone know if a City of Splendors: Waterdeep wallpaper will ever be made? I love the artwork that stretches front to back, yet I can't manage to find the entire piece anywhere. I was hoping that at least I could find that and just use what I could for a wallpaper. |
Great literature is escapist, but it changes you, and you come back to your world with new eyes. D&D is the first game that's ever done that for me.
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kaeso
Acolyte
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 02:11:11
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So... how does Skullport work? I'm not quite sure I understand how a port can be under Mount Waterdeep. Does it connect to the Underdark? Do surface vessels go to it? If so, how do they get that far down?  |
Great literature is escapist, but it changes you, and you come back to your world with new eyes. D&D is the first game that's ever done that for me.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 05:09:29
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| There is a late 2ed (almost ruleless)source-book called Skullport that details the port pretty thoroughly. My memory is a bit faulty, but I seem to remember there being a hidden entrance at sea level and a river inside the mountain that led up to the town itself. As to how the town works, there we get to the fun subject of the Skulls. |
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kaeso
Acolyte
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 22:32:10
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awesome, I'll save that name on my list of books to buy, and download it offline when I'm old enough for a credit card- no saracasm intended, just 2 more months!  Thanks again for the title |
Great literature is escapist, but it changes you, and you come back to your world with new eyes. D&D is the first game that's ever done that for me.
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 22:48:30
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| I recommend reading the original write-up before Joseph Wolf's Skullport book: "Seeing the Sights in Skullport" in Dragon #172, largely reprinted in City of Splendors (1994). |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 16:59:25
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Just noticed something rather odd in the Tel Teukiira write up on page 76 of CoS it has The Mistmaster listed as a CN 9 cleric of Deneir/ 16th Illusionist. Which creates a problem as Deneir is NG and the Mistmasters alignment is more than 1 step away from it
This can be resolved in a number of ways
1) The Mistmaster alignment should be CG instead of CN (making him legal)
2) The Mistmasters alignment is correct and he has the Heretic of the Faith feat
3) The Mistmasters alignment is correct but the god should be Leira (given his other class this might be apporiate)and he has the Servent of the Fallen feat
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 23:30:01
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| I think the 1e/2e sourcebooks listed Mistmaster as a cleric of Leira. Maybe he switched to Deneir, rather than worship Cyric? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2006 : 01:18:14
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
I think the 1e/2e sourcebooks listed Mistmaster as a cleric of Leira. Maybe he switched to Deneir, rather than worship Cyric?
The problem is his alignments illigal for a cleric of Deneir (Unless he has the Heretic of the Faith feat) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2006 : 01:29:12
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| or 4) Eric, or whomever, kept the 1e and 2e deity alignments which allowed Deneir to have CN divine casters. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Archwizard
Learned Scribe
USA
266 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2006 : 04:51:43
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2006 : 04:59:10
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Originally posted by Archwizard
What was the Mistmaster's 1e/2e alignment?
CG. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 09 Sep 2006 : 05:04:32
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Originally posted by Dargoth
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion
I think the 1e/2e sourcebooks listed Mistmaster as a cleric of Leira. Maybe he switched to Deneir, rather than worship Cyric?
The problem is his alignments illigal for a cleric of Deneir (Unless he has the Heretic of the Faith feat)
Alignments in 2e allowed Deneir to have CN divine spellcasters.
Maybe one of the writers, perhaps Eric, allowed this to be carried over into 3e and reflected in CoS:W
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 07:52:12
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Hey Eric
Did you create a full stat block for Muiral the Misshapen for City of Splendors?
If so any chance you could post them?
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6662 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 08:18:56
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Umm, what do you mean by "full stat block". I don't have the book in front of me right now, but the turnover had his stat block. Mind you there's a feast of information that didn't make the cut - it's now in the, as Tom Costa so eloquently put it, "City of Splendors Director's Cuts" file. (Some of which has turned up in DoF).
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 10:35:26
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Umm, what do you mean by "full stat block". I don't have the book in front of me right now, but the turnover had his stat block. Mind you there's a feast of information that didn't make the cut - it's now in the, as Tom Costa so eloquently put it, "City of Splendors Director's Cuts" file. (Some of which has turned up in DoF).
-- George Krashos
"The Full stat block" is what Trobriand got, Muiral the Misshapen only got the name/alignment/race/class stats |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6662 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 13:42:07
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In the turnover, he did have a stat block just like Trobriand. I'll leave it to Eric to decide whether he wants that info published.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 14:04:31
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Originally posted by George Krashos
In the turnover, he did have a stat block just like Trobriand. I'll leave it to Eric to decide whether he wants that info published.
-- George Krashos
well thats good news and hopefully Eric will be able to share (I wonder how many other CoS NPCs where fully stated but never saw the light of day...) |
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Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 13 Sep 2006 : 14:49:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by George Krashos
In the turnover, he did have a stat block just like Trobriand. I'll leave it to Eric to decide whether he wants that info published.
-- George Krashos
well thats good news and hopefully Eric will be able to share (I wonder how many other CoS NPCs where fully stated but never saw the light of day...)
Unfortunately, I'm not supposed to share cut bits, except as part of a WoTC product (e.g. web enhancement, another product, etc.).
This was a weird one anyway.
His stat block has a weird history anyway. Going from memory, originally, I made him a tauric cildabrin and did a cildabrin write-up in the Monster section (for that reason only). Then he got cut for lack of space (along with the cildabrin write-up, which didn't really belong in CoS:W anyway.) Then Lords of Madness (developed concurrently) came out with a cildabrin just as we were finishing up CoS:W, but Muiral remained a tauric scorpion, as the CR in LoM was too high to make a him a reasonable character with all the classes I felt he deserved. (My version had a much lower CR.)
I'll see if I can work it in someday, but no promises, as I'll probably have to redo him from scratch.
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