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wwwwwww
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Posted - 04 Nov 2004 :  16:08:42  Show Profile  Visit wwwwwww's Homepage Send wwwwwww a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Just wondering what y'all's HONEST opinion of Philip Athans is, and if you are looking forward to the Watercourse Trilogy he has on slate. I know he does a lot of work editing and doing other great things for FR, but what about as an author . . .

Personally, I've never read anything from Mr. Athans that I've found to be the kind of quality I would expect from an author. His Baldur's Gate works were not to my liking, and The Savage Caves and Death Ray (for the D&D line) that he did weren't all that great either. Maybe I'm just being overly negative.

BTW, this is not a personal attack. I actually respect Mr. Athans for all the hard work he has done helping the other authors with their own books.

Edited by - Alaundo on 04 Nov 2004 16:35:55

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Posted - 04 Nov 2004 :  16:38:36  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met, wwwwwww

Have ye read WotSQ #5: Annihilation, by Phil Athans? I'd be interested to hear thy views on this novel (in the appropriate thread of course.

As to the Watercourse Trilogy, I am intrigued by how this will be done, it seems a very ambitious project for a single man of the Realms

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Posted - 04 Nov 2004 :  21:46:58  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wwwwwww

Just wondering what y'all's HONEST opinion of Philip Athans is, and if you are looking forward to the Watercourse Trilogy he has on slate.



Based on the upcoming novel's subject matter per this thread, I am looking forward to it.

quote:

Personally, I've never read anything from Mr. Athans that I've found to be the kind of quality I would expect from an author.



I've only read one of his works and expressed my opinion of it in this thread.


Edited by - SiriusBlack on 04 Nov 2004 21:47:31
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wwwwwww
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Posted - 06 Nov 2004 :  13:14:28  Show Profile  Visit wwwwwww's Homepage Send wwwwwww a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Have ye read WotSQ #5: Annihilation, by Phil Athans? I'd be interested to hear thy views on this novel (in the appropriate thread of course.
I actually haven't read the WOTSQ books simply because I have trouble with series' that use different authors but maintain the same characters. When characters abruptly change physically or mentally, or other obvious continuation changes occur to the plot, I feel that insults the intelligence of the reader. Stories often stumble across the finish line when separate authors are telling the tale. Now, that's not to say that the authors themselves are poor. In fact, a couple very good writers were chosen for this series. I only wish they had kept the same one throughout.
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Posted - 06 Nov 2004 :  13:36:22  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wwwwwww

quote:
Have ye read WotSQ #5: Annihilation, by Phil Athans? I'd be interested to hear thy views on this novel (in the appropriate thread of course.
I actually haven't read the WOTSQ books simply because I have trouble with series' that use different authors but maintain the same characters. When characters abruptly change physically or mentally, or other obvious continuation changes occur to the plot, I feel that insults the intelligence of the reader. Stories often stumble across the finish line when separate authors are telling the tale. Now, that's not to say that the authors themselves are poor. In fact, a couple very good writers were chosen for this series. I only wish they had kept the same one throughout.



Well met

I highly recommend you read The War of the Spider Queen. Given your negative view on mulit-author series, I quite confident that this will be a very pleasant surprise for you. The characters and flavor flows perfectly from book to book\author to author.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 Nov 2004 :  14:25:51  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wwwwwww
I actually haven't read the WOTSQ books simply because I have trouble with series' that use different authors but maintain the same characters. When characters abruptly change physically or mentally, or other obvious continuation changes occur to the plot, I feel that insults the intelligence of the reader. Stories often stumble across the finish line when separate authors are telling the tale. Now, that's not to say that the authors themselves are poor. In fact, a couple very good writers were chosen for this series. I only wish they had kept the same one throughout.



I understand those feelings. However, for the most part, that series does not suffer from the problems you outlined. In fact, I think the authors did a wonderful job in continuity. The sole exception, in my opinion, was commented on in the thread I already posted a link to.
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Posted - 07 Nov 2004 :  03:34:10  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with the great Alaundo and SB.Do yourself a favor,and read WotSQ.The authors have done a great job with continuity of character,and plot.It's a great series.Phil did write the Baldur's Gate novels which weren't the best IMO,but I enjoyed them for what they were.They were great fantasy novels,and have made one hell of a video game.

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Elmonster
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Posted - 09 Nov 2004 :  08:38:39  Show Profile  Visit Elmonster's Homepage Send Elmonster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well i haven't read WotSQ, I've read Baldur's Gate by Athans (though i can't say that i enjoyed the book). What about Watercourse - i hope for the better!

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