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Dargoth
Great Reader
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 Posted - 13 Sep 2004 : 10:16:09
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Septembers whats coming up article featured several feats from Libris Mortis
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040912b&page=5
City of the Spider queen is going to be a living (or should that be Unliving) hell when my Players do it in November 
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Capn Charlie
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 13 Sep 2004 : 10:38:13
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Originally posted by Dargoth
City of the Spider queen is going to be a living (or should that be Unliving) hell when my Players do it in November
Not with depressants like Lasting/Enduring life around. Tal kabout a downer.
Getting to be where a good sized dozen low end level drainers can't totally wipe out a high level party any more. What fun is that? (For me?) |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Sep 2004 : 11:08:17
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| Well my PCs havent run into many undead in the Banites on the MArch campaign, they have no idea of the mountain of undead there going to run into after they finish with that Demonologist in Hillsfar |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Oct 2004 : 09:11:49
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| A web enhancement for Libris Mortis is out already! |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 15 Oct 2004 : 12:18:53
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
A web enhancement for Libris Mortis is out already!
I saw the book yesterday, but I've no interest in it, so I didn't even pick it up to flip thru. But the book is out. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 18 Oct 2004 : 15:30:32
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Surprisingly, I am quite happy with what I've read from this tome so far. While obviously continuing the tradition started by the 'Book of Dragons', this 'Book of the Undead' presents the undead-loving DM with a number of interesting new creatures and character options that will certainly provide a swath of new and interesting campaign ideas and quests.
I can't wait to read more, although, Shining South must take precedence I'm afraid...
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 20 Oct 2004 : 20:23:12
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All I have to say is...muhwhahahahaha
"Happy Halloween form the Undead" |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 02:53:57
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Is there anything in particular from the tome that you find extremely interesting that would warrant such a response, Bakra?  .
I'm curious as to what each and every scribe who purchases this book will find fascinating...
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Capn Charlie
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 04:47:44
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I picked it up and gave it the surface scan for about 45 minutes... and must say it is a nice book. Some nifty new prestige classes, feats, and spells cought my eye, for one, especially the pale master class... I am starting to think someone is stealing my ideas with the long prestige classes.
It also had a slew of new monsters, that I am sure will torment my players once I finally break down and buy it. As for the campaign tips... well, some might find it useful, but I already kind of figured it out, and there isn't a lot there that an experienced DM woudl really need, but then again, an experienced DM can cook up their own monsters, feats, spells, and prestige classes... in theory.
All in all, a nice rulebook.
I spent a slightly smaller amount of time with shining south... but will retain anything about that for a more appropriate thread. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 07:16:45
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Originally posted by Capn Charlie
I spent a slightly smaller amount of time with shining south...
Gosh... I hope neither Alaundo nor the Lord Rad are reading this... 
- Worried for the Capn Sage
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 08:38:08
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Capn Charlie
I spent a slightly smaller amount of time with shining south...
Gosh... I hope neither Alaundo nor the Lord Rad are reading this...
- Worried for the Capn Sage
Friend Sage, I like this new sig thing you've been doing... 
Is it going to continue, or is this a one-time event? And what prompted it?  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31773 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 08:51:36
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Capn Charlie
I spent a slightly smaller amount of time with shining south...
Gosh... I hope neither Alaundo nor the Lord Rad are reading this...
- Worried for the Capn Sage
Friend Sage, I like this new sig thing you've been doing...
Is it going to continue, or is this a one-time event? And what prompted it?
Hehe... I was of the thought that it might become a little annoying, but... here we are .
Anyways Furry Rupert, I've always used this "new sig thing" as you put it, on some of the other forums I frequent. It's actually a very hard habit to break, and it was only purely by accident that I used this same technique here at Candlekeep earlier today. So, I've decided to stop fighting the habit, and just let my crazyness consume me...  .
As for what promoted it, I really can't say with any real certainty. It was just something unique at the time (a one-shot deal) when I first started using it. As far as I am aware, I never seen anything similar used elsewhere. As I recall though, a derivative of this technique was used frequently by me in my screen prompt from an old Unix system I and a group of students were using at the university a few years ago. It might have been inspired by that practice, but, as I said above, I simply do not really know.
- Semi-informative Sage
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 09:42:14
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Capn Charlie
I spent a slightly smaller amount of time with shining south...
Gosh... I hope neither Alaundo nor the Lord Rad are reading this...
- Worried for the Capn Sage
Well met
Aye, this just won't do  Sit thyself down with Shining South, Capn Charlie, for 'tis certainly worthy of more than a "45 minutes surface scan"! |
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Capn Charlie
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 10:19:07
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Actually it is kind of like this, I only ravage books in the store that I know are low on the priority list of me getting them...
Shining south is a lot higher on the list than libris mortis, so I only needed to look at a few things in it(namely the halruaa sec, out of anticipation, and the classes and some spells, etc. out of curiosity)
The rest I save for when I can sit and read it at my leisure. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 11:44:44
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Capn Charlie
I spent a slightly smaller amount of time with shining south...
Gosh... I hope neither Alaundo nor the Lord Rad are reading this...
- Worried for the Capn Sage
::looks up from reading Shining South::
Wha...what's that, you say?
::buries head back in tome:: |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 18:08:58
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Originally posted by The Sage
As far as I am aware, I never seen anything similar used elsewhere. As I recall though, a derivative of this technique was used frequently by me in my screen prompt from an old Unix system I and a group of students were using at the university a few years ago. It might have been inspired by that practice, but, as I said above, I simply do not really know.
- Semi-informative Sage
There is someone else who does something similar. I sure can't find any of his posts now but I believe he is one of WotC's designers. At first I thought you were copying him or making fun of him Especially since it was the first post I had seen you use the sig right after his... now why can't I find that post?  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 : 18:27:26
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger
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Originally posted by The Sage
As far as I am aware, I never seen anything similar used elsewhere. As I recall though, a derivative of this technique was used frequently by me in my screen prompt from an old Unix system I and a group of students were using at the university a few years ago. It might have been inspired by that practice, but, as I said above, I simply do not really know.
- Semi-informative Sage
There is someone else who does something similar. I sure can't find any of his posts now but I believe he is one of WotC's designers. At first I thought you were copying him or making fun of him Especially since it was the first post I had seen you use the sig right after his... now why can't I find that post?
Steven Schend usually signs off with his first name, and then some little comment that adds to his post. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 22 Oct 2004 : 05:51:13
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger
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Originally posted by The Sage
As far as I am aware, I never seen anything similar used elsewhere. As I recall though, a derivative of this technique was used frequently by me in my screen prompt from an old Unix system I and a group of students were using at the university a few years ago. It might have been inspired by that practice, but, as I said above, I simply do not really know.
- Semi-informative Sage
There is someone else who does something similar. I sure can't find any of his posts now but I believe he is one of WotC's designers. At first I thought you were copying him or making fun of him Especially since it was the first post I had seen you use the sig right after his... now why can't I find that post?
Perhaps a particularly nasty visage was responsible for that... It stole Mr. Schend's identity and now it's playing with your mind and your perceptions...
- Trying vainly to keep the scroll on-topic Sage
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Alaundo
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 22 Oct 2004 : 09:21:29
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Well met
Ahem!  Now, what was the discussion herein regarding the Book of the Undead?
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Nov 2004 : 07:31:16
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I haven't had a chance to look through this book yet. Are there any planar-themed undead detailed?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 01 Nov 2004 : 14:53:52
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I haven't had a chance to look through this book yet. Are there any planar-themed undead detailed?
There are a few, but I can't remember them at the moment. I've marked out the relevant sections in my copy. Check it when you get home  .
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Nov 2004 : 16:36:00
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ENWorld reported the following today:
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In this thread, Andy Collins responds to the large collection of stat block errors found in Libris Mortis by EN World reviewer John Cooper: "In response to the query about errors: keep in mind that any changes we make in process won't be reflected in products for many months. Libris Mortis was "finished" here quite a while ago, and thus couldn't have benefited from the increased staffing that occurred more recently" (scooper: Eric Anondson).
Can anyone with this tome elaborate if they noticed these errors?
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Ardashir
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Posted - 08 Jan 2005 : 18:28:55
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Anyone have any ideas on just which religions/power groups in the Realms would get the most use out of the LM material? I see the anti-undead stuff as being natural for the churches of Kelemvor and Lathander. The nastier stuff would go great for the Cult of the Dragon (they've got a lot of necromancers, as I recall), the Cult of the White Banshee, and the followers of Velsharoon. Indeed, I see the True Necromancer as being the specialist priest of his church.
Also, how could one fit Doresain into the Realms? They've kinda got enough evil/death gods; though as a big Clark Ashton Smith fan, I've always had a soft spot for ravening ghouls. And his Hunger domain is so utterly repulsive I love it!
Lastly -- is it just me, or are the varied Necrotic Cyst spells some of the foulest magic ever seen in a D&D book? |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 11:00:35
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Also, how could one fit Doresain into the Realms? They've kinda got enough evil/death gods; though as a big Clark Ashton Smith fan, I've always had a soft spot for ravening ghouls. And his Hunger domain is so utterly repulsive I love it!
I'm not really sure we need a specific "ghoul god" in the Realms. There's so many other deities that handle that area of the undead already.
What about if he were a minor power . . . serving one of the greater deities of the dead/undeath?
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Jan 2005 : 12:30:14
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Originally posted by Ardashir
Anyone have any ideas on just which religions/power groups in the Realms would get the most use out of the LM material? I see the anti-undead stuff as being natural for the churches of Kelemvor and Lathander. The nastier stuff would go great for the Cult of the Dragon (they've got a lot of necromancers, as I recall), the Cult of the White Banshee, and the followers of Velsharoon. Indeed, I see the True Necromancer as being the specialist priest of his church.
Also, how could one fit Doresain into the Realms? They've kinda got enough evil/death gods; though as a big Clark Ashton Smith fan, I've always had a soft spot for ravening ghouls. And his Hunger domain is so utterly repulsive I love it!
Lastly -- is it just me, or are the varied Necrotic Cyst spells some of the foulest magic ever seen in a D&D book?
Other groups
Horned Harbringers
Red Wizards of Thay (particularly the Necromancer school)
Night masks of Westgate (The FRs answer to Buffy the Vampire slayer)
Larloch and his undead army
If I ever get around to running my 3ed conversion of the mere of Dead modules then Ill probably introduce alot of the New Undead form Libris Mortis into the region (Rationalising there apearance with Mykruls essense raising the dead of the mere)
As for the Undead gods
You could say that they where all little known Demi Powers pre time of Troubles who served Mykrul and theyve now started asserting themselves now that their patrons "dead" |
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Ardashir
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Posted - 10 Jan 2005 : 17:18:14
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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[i]Also, how could one fit Doresain into the Realms? They've kinda got enough evil/death gods; though as a big Clark Ashton Smith fan, I've always had a soft spot for ravening ghouls. And his Hunger domain is so utterly repulsive I love it!
As for the Undead gods
You could say that they where all little known Demi Powers pre time of Troubles who served Mykrul and theyve now started asserting themselves now that their patrons "dead"
That sounds about right. Though Doresain could've gone rogue when Orcus got killed (that still did happen, right?), ad now faces troubles with an angry Lord of the Undead wanting to bring him back into the fold.
Which just gives Dresain and his priests all the more reason to join forces with Kiaransalee... |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 11 Jan 2005 : 14:10:12
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Originally posted by Ardashir
That sounds about right. Though Doresain could've gone rogue when Orcus got killed (that still did happen, right?), ad now faces troubles with an angry Lord of the Undead wanting to bring him back into the fold.
Which just gives Dresain and his priests all the more reason to join forces with Kiaransalee...
It did. He's back now of course, and re-establishing himself in his former places of power. Besides, Doresain has made moves against Orcus in the past . . .
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Jan 2005 : 14:31:10
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The problem with undead gods is that they dont really work in the FR
A god needs to have worshipers to power itself however most undead have no souls or by the time they rise as undead their souls have already passed on to what plane the god they worship as mortals lived |
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warlockco
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Posted - 11 Jan 2005 : 18:55:00
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Originally posted by Dargoth
The problem with undead gods is that they dont really work in the FR
A god needs to have worshipers to power itself however most undead have no souls or by the time they rise as undead their souls have already passed on to what plane the god they worship as mortals lived
Unless it has been changed, Undead do have "Souls/Spirits" because while a person's corpse is animated you are unable to contact their "Soul/Spirit" in the afterlife.
Especially in the case of Undead like Liches, Vampires, and Death Knights. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Jan 2005 : 05:06:38
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Which almost means that an 'undeath' god is required . . . with that extra 'soul power' just floating around somewhere, someone would have done something with it. Myrkul works up until his death, at which point lesser servants of his probably fled Cyric, and then those left over from that fled Kelemvor. Someone probably took some secrets, and could raise himself to at least demigod level; undeath is a completely unclaimed portfolio now, so Ao shouldn't mind.
And it provides a reason for undead hordes to be popping up all over the place. The more undead, the more powerful this new deity is. It could even end up like the religion of the Blood of Vol in Eberron, where the common populace believes that true death is the real evil, and that being able to stay in your own world is better than being "taken" to some plane. This new god, then, would be seen as benevolent, because he doesn't want to force people to accept death and take them away like the other gods. Instead, he'd raise the worthy to be vampires, liches, and other intelligent undead.
Of course, he'd have to stay under cover. Kelemvor would hunt him down in a second if he showed himself. Could be a good excuse to have a wide-scale inquisition, though.  |
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