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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 25 Aug 2004 :  18:10:53  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
online in my visits to more than a few sites, I think it's only fair they get recognized when doing something like this.

Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

online in my visits to more than a few sites, I think it's only fair they get recognized when doing something like this.



That is one seriously good thing for them to do. Kudos to them.

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Moonharp
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Posted - 25 Aug 2004 :  19:26:55  Show Profile  Visit Moonharp's Homepage Send Moonharp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And to think that some of us (myself included, though my conscience stepped up now) are complaining that they are not realeasing products fast enough or good enough.
Nice one, from them... maybe they will get some new gamers up and running, along with helping them.

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The Sage
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Posted - 26 Aug 2004 :  07:12:47  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

online in my visits to more than a few sites, I think it's only fair they get recognized when doing something like this.



That is one seriously good thing for them to do. Kudos to them.

Indeed, they are to be commended for their efforts.

Let us now hope that other businesses take a page out of Hasbro's book, especially in situations such as these.

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Seriously, I commend them for this. That Red Cross rep was quite right on toys helping kids through times of crisis.

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kahonen
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Posted - 01 Sep 2004 :  12:33:02  Show Profile  Visit kahonen's Homepage Send kahonen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

online in my visits to more than a few sites, I think it's only fair they get recognized when doing something like this.

Sorry but the cynic in me has to say "recognised for what?"

First, Hasbro have sent toys. Any manufacturing company can "write off" goods it manufactures against a tax loss. In fact, Hasbro have given away nothing - they will simply pay a little less tax this year.

Second, there is no doubt that Hasbro will have made far more from this than they ever stood to lose - think of how much free advertising they've received (the article even advertises Hasbro product lines).

I would have been impressed if Hasbro had anonymously donated a sum of money to help the starving kids in Sudan (you know, the ones that can't help themselves).

This isn't impressive, just a cheap advert.
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 01 Sep 2004 :  13:32:26  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kahonen

quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

online in my visits to more than a few sites, I think it's only fair they get recognized when doing something like this.

Sorry but the cynic in me has to say "recognised for what?"

First, Hasbro have sent toys. Any manufacturing company can "write off" goods it manufactures against a tax loss. In fact, Hasbro have given away nothing - they will simply pay a little less tax this year.

Second, there is no doubt that Hasbro will have made far more from this than they ever stood to lose - think of how much free advertising they've received (the article even advertises Hasbro product lines).

I would have been impressed if Hasbro had anonymously donated a sum of money to help the starving kids in Sudan (you know, the ones that can't help themselves).

This isn't impressive, just a cheap advert.


Yeah, but Kahonen, whether or not Hasbro would have donated toys if the US Government did NOT reward corporations who donate to charities is just conjecture. Maybe, in all fairness, they would have anyway. Who really knows? I'm not familiar on a personal, face-to-face level with the management of Hasbro, so I can't be the judge of their character.

Of course, good Christian behaviour would be to donate anonymously... but who really does? Not a large percent of this modern world.

Of course it's publicity, and it's good for Hasbro... but above and beyond this, it's the fact that someone at Hasbro took the time to orgnanize this toy donation drive, and that there are a lot of poor kids who will benefit from this kindly act. How much money the IRS gives back to Hasbro is not really the point here...
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 01 Sep 2004 :  15:25:50  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kahonen
[blue][font=Comic Sans MS]Sorry but the cynic in me has to say "recognised for what?"



And to think someone said to me in an email recently that I was cynical. Apparently, I'm simply middle of the road.

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Lina
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I good to see large corporate companies getting in on the action as well, putting in the extra hours in charitable work.

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Phobos
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Posted - 04 Sep 2004 :  13:29:06  Show Profile  Visit Phobos's Homepage Send Phobos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
and don't forget... they might find some future customers in some of the helped ones (and then they gave me that barbie(tm)... that was the happiest day in my life!)... i find what they did is a good gesture but don't be mistaken. only the secondary motive is of a moral nature. good thoughts kahonen.


quote:
Originally posted by kahonen

quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

online in my visits to more than a few sites, I think it's only fair they get recognized when doing something like this.

Sorry but the cynic in me has to say "recognised for what?"

First, Hasbro have sent toys. Any manufacturing company can "write off" goods it manufactures against a tax loss. In fact, Hasbro have given away nothing - they will simply pay a little less tax this year.

Second, there is no doubt that Hasbro will have made far more from this than they ever stood to lose - think of how much free advertising they've received (the article even advertises Hasbro product lines).

I would have been impressed if Hasbro had anonymously donated a sum of money to help the starving kids in Sudan (you know, the ones that can't help themselves).

This isn't impressive, just a cheap advert.



Edited by - Phobos on 04 Sep 2004 13:30:30
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Capn Charlie
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Posted - 04 Sep 2004 :  14:11:52  Show Profile  Visit Capn Charlie's Homepage Send Capn Charlie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*Shrugs*

I knew it would all come down to this back when this thread was first made. I deleted my post, though, and just let it be. However, right here it all is, jsut as I had predicted.

Sure, ya gotta point, they gain much by their actions. However, most people DO charitible work because of a desire to get patted on the back, or get their fix of that warm fuzzy feeling anyhow. However, motivations aside, a good act was done. People were helped and consoled.

To advocte 'ol hornboy for a moment, I reckon the gains of this endeavour are less than what could have been achieved by shifting the same resources in another direction.

Give hasbro the pat on the back and tell the mwhat a good boy... corporation, they are. Maybe they will do more good things and help people, regardless of their motivations.

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