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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 15 Oct 2002 :  04:46:11  Show Profile  Visit Drummer Boy's Homepage Send Drummer Boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darwin Tenderfoot

I think that Halflings are a good race. Even through the tormenting of the other races they hold strong. They are also IMHO the best thiefs in the realms. But I have to admit all elves are a close second for sure. Sorry King Tiax, Dwarves just dont have the stuff.
(and then thiers the attitude, smell, and so on.....) Their is two humans however who are very adept at getting in to places and that would be Artemis Enteri, and also Erevis Cale.

Darwin (Halfling if you havent guessed)

I agree. I always choose halflings when I make thief characters on the Forgotten Realms RPG's. They have all of the best advantages for thief characters.


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The Great Drizzt
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Posted - 15 Oct 2002 :  07:55:35  Show Profile  Visit The Great Drizzt's Homepage Send The Great Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree, but I only think they are good for thieves, I dont really like gnomes that much.
The Great Drizzt

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Darwin Tenderfoot
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Posted - 15 Oct 2002 :  14:27:11  Show Profile  Visit Darwin Tenderfoot's Homepage Send Darwin Tenderfoot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you!!!!

Darwin
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king-tiax
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Posted - 15 Oct 2002 :  19:59:15  Show Profile  Visit king-tiax's Homepage Send king-tiax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gnomes do make great mages though, they are inteledenl, logicel, and they excell Mortals in there Wisdom.

My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.

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DragonTouched
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Posted - 16 Oct 2002 :  03:35:14  Show Profile  Visit DragonTouched's Homepage Send DragonTouched a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Haha! Now we're finally getting somewhere! What we should be discussing is what race is best for which class or prestige class. There is no best overall race, because each excells in some particular area. Isn't that the point of societal living anyway?; to contribute your strength/s while someone else compensates for your weakness/es. That's why adventurers who like to stay alive travel in teams instead of alone.
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king-tiax
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Posted - 16 Oct 2002 :  17:26:46  Show Profile  Visit king-tiax's Homepage Send king-tiax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, if you like fighters, you'll love Dwarves, mages, you'll prefere Elves, or Gnomes. Each class has its perfect race. And if you just want mindless minions, go for orcs, or golins.

My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.

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Ditalidas
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Posted - 16 Oct 2002 :  19:08:55  Show Profile  Visit Ditalidas's Homepage Send Ditalidas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like fighters, but I will never play a dwarf. I like elven fighters a lot. If I want to play a thief, does not mean I play a halfling thief. If I want to play a wizard, I would not think of elves in the first place.... I don't see why I should either... has it something to do with min/maxing?
And if everybody would think that way...wouldn't we create a Faerūn with a lot of elven mages, dwarven fighters and halfling thieves?
Something would go very wrong that way in my humble opinion.

Is this still on or off topic?

'All that is' is also 'All that is not' for the one cannot exist without the other.

Sweet Water and Light Laughter

Edited by - Ditalidas on 16 Oct 2002 19:15:46
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king-tiax
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Posted - 16 Oct 2002 :  19:43:45  Show Profile  Visit king-tiax's Homepage Send king-tiax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One of my other favorite roles to play is a Elven Ranger Marskman. Though I do like a good Drow Assin.

My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.

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The Great Drizzt
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Posted - 17 Oct 2002 :  03:45:52  Show Profile  Visit The Great Drizzt's Homepage Send The Great Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In my opinion, Drow make good Mages, Fighters Thieves/Assassins, and the females make Excellent Priestess's.
The Great Drizzt

"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1
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Jeffrey Williams
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Posted - 18 Oct 2002 :  10:14:15  Show Profile  Visit Jeffrey Williams's Homepage Send Jeffrey Williams a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My prefered race/class combination to play is Elven Rouge or Rouge/Sorcerer. My second favorite is half-elven cleric.

Geoffrey Mordraith, Sage, Cleric of Helm, Bearer of the Morning Star
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king-tiax
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Posted - 18 Oct 2002 :  17:05:37  Show Profile  Visit king-tiax's Homepage Send king-tiax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sone of the best archers in faerun are the Drow, they always make good marskman, they are light speedy and with some of the best site in Faerun.

My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.

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The Great Drizzt
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Posted - 21 Oct 2002 :  07:31:43  Show Profile  Visit The Great Drizzt's Homepage Send The Great Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah that is true, but Elves are pretty good with a bow now too arent they, and dont forget about Dwarves and their crossbows and their "Dwarven Bows"(Hammers and Axes-thrown) they pack a mean punch!
The Great Drizzt

"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1
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king-tiax
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Posted - 21 Oct 2002 :  13:24:17  Show Profile  Visit king-tiax's Homepage Send king-tiax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes ,an Elven crossbow, what do you think that would be like, scary, odd, no-ones meantioned Humans, there Ranger Marksman pack a mean punch.

My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.

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The Great Drizzt
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Posted - 22 Oct 2002 :  05:23:58  Show Profile  Visit The Great Drizzt's Homepage Send The Great Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmmm.....a Elven Crossbow, now that is interesting, and yes, Human archers are pretty good too I guess.
The Great Drizzt

"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1
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king-tiax
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Posted - 22 Oct 2002 :  20:44:38  Show Profile  Visit king-tiax's Homepage Send king-tiax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonce had a Gnome that was meeeean with a sling.

My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.

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The Great Drizzt
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Posted - 24 Oct 2002 :  06:42:37  Show Profile  Visit The Great Drizzt's Homepage Send The Great Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL, I could roll up a Gnome into a ball, and use him in the sling as a bullet, Drow might make some of the best archers now that i think about it, they can get a 20 DEX!
The Great Drizzt

"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1
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Darwin Tenderfoot
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Posted - 24 Oct 2002 :  12:27:21  Show Profile  Visit Darwin Tenderfoot's Homepage Send Darwin Tenderfoot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I didnt know that Drow could get a 20 DEX, Im going to have to start playing them.(have to change my pic to) Anyway I thought the Dwarven bow was a funny concept.hahaha But those Drow crossbows nothing beats them.

Darwin
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 24 Oct 2002 :  12:56:42  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darwin Tenderfoot

<snip> But those Drow crossbows nothing beats them.


Protection from Normal Missiles does, as well as a good suit of (magical) armor, or gloves of missile snaring... amongst other things.
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king-tiax
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Posted - 24 Oct 2002 :  22:06:26  Show Profile  Visit king-tiax's Homepage Send king-tiax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There was once a very good Dwarven marskman, they can be good with bows.

My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.

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Darwin Tenderfoot
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Posted - 25 Oct 2002 :  03:32:11  Show Profile  Visit Darwin Tenderfoot's Homepage Send Darwin Tenderfoot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I never said a Dwarf could not be proficient with a bow. I just think calling a Warhammer or an Axe a Dwarven bow, is funny. Oh, Mumadar I was talking about other bows caompared.

Darwin
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Merrzeran
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Posted - 25 Oct 2002 :  05:39:57  Show Profile  Visit Merrzeran's Homepage Send Merrzeran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dwarves... Gotta luv-em...

~M~
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The Great Drizzt
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Posted - 25 Oct 2002 :  06:18:06  Show Profile  Visit The Great Drizzt's Homepage Send The Great Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah Drow crossbows are cool(ecspecially with different Drow poisons)
I don't need gloves of missle snaring, or magical armor and whatnot, I'm fast enough to catch them with my bare fingers, and sometimes even with my teeth, I have the speed of a mongoose, the reflexes of a cat, and the strength of 10 bears, and the looks of a rat......wait, that last part isnt right.
Gloves of missle snaring can only catch 2 items at once if i'm not mistaken, and thats if you have no weapons in your hands, plus drow would shoot more than just 2 anyways, how often do you just encounter 1 Drow, besides me? I'm a 1 man army Also, Drow have other ways to make the tiny bolts magical, so protection spells might not work!
The Great Drizzt

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 25 Oct 2002 :  07:41:29  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darwin Tenderfoot

I never said a Dwarf could not be proficient with a bow. I just think calling a Warhammer or an Axe a Dwarven bow, is funny. Oh, Mumadar I was talking about other bows caompared.

Darwin


Hehehe... I know
Talk about the deadly punch and range of a heavy crossbow... too bad the rate of fire is so much slower then a normal bow. Hmmm... making a medieval-like version of a heavy machine gun team... one loading the heavy crossbow, the other firing it... that should fix that problem.
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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 25 Oct 2002 :  16:08:01  Show Profile  Visit Drummer Boy's Homepage Send Drummer Boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Great Drizzt

Yeah Drow crossbows are cool(ecspecially with different Drow poisons)
I don't need gloves of missle snaring, or magical armor and whatnot, I'm fast enough to catch them with my bare fingers, and sometimes even with my teeth, I have the speed of a mongoose, the reflexes of a cat, and the strength of 10 bears, and the looks of a rat......wait, that last part isnt right.
Gloves of missle snaring can only catch 2 items at once if i'm not mistaken, and thats if you have no weapons in your hands, plus drow would shoot more than just 2 anyways, how often do you just encounter 1 Drow, besides me? I'm a 1 man army Also, Drow have other ways to make the tiny bolts magical, so protection spells might not work!
The Great Drizzt



Yeah right I'd like to see you catch a drow crossbow bolt in your teeth. This is what it would look like.

Drizzt: Hey, look at me I can catch this crossbow bolt in my teeth.
Drow Crossbow Person: (fires crossbow)
Drizzt:(crossbow pierces head and comes out other sidek)(Drizzt gasps for breath and falls over choking)
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 25 Oct 2002 :  18:05:33  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Merrzeran

Dwarves... Gotta luv-em...


Agree, too bad I have to go back to DragonLance for my really favorite D&D dwarven character: Flint Fireforge.

He might be stereotypical, however very well portrayed. I haven't found a novel character like that in the Realms yet. Bruenor comes a long way, but to me is not as memorable a character as Flint. The Bouldershoulder brothers are comical sidekicks, not too far removed from Gully-dwarves in their role in the novels and easily remembered for their slapstick performance rather then 'character'.
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Merrzeran
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Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  02:46:59  Show Profile  Visit Merrzeran's Homepage Send Merrzeran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes Flint was one of my favorite dwarves, But before him come's Gimli son of Gloin.

~M~
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Darwin Tenderfoot
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Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  03:42:27  Show Profile  Visit Darwin Tenderfoot's Homepage Send Darwin Tenderfoot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh,sorry Mumadar LOL, nice Drummerboy. I havent had a chance to read the Dragonlance books yet, though I think my brother has a lot of them. But he says they are pretty good.

Darwin
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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  17:12:40  Show Profile  Visit Drummer Boy's Homepage Send Drummer Boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Who are the Yuan-Ti I've never heard of them before.
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Merrzeran
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Posted - 26 Oct 2002 :  17:22:45  Show Profile  Visit Merrzeran's Homepage Send Merrzeran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
EEK! Yuan-ti are abomonations of nature... Well just about every monster in the D&D is, what in the nine hells am i... Ok gettin of subject. Basically from the waist down they're snake with a somewhat human torso and sometimes a human head (If memory serves) but most occasions with the head of a snake. And they have a penchent for forming cults, and using poison, and stuff like that there...

~M~

Edited by - Merrzeran on 26 Oct 2002 17:23:50
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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 27 Oct 2002 :  03:33:55  Show Profile  Visit Drummer Boy's Homepage Send Drummer Boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahhhh.....thanks, Merzerran I think I remember them now. If memory serves me, they were those weird snake people in the Icewind Dale game.
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