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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
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 Posted - 21 Jul 2004 : 03:57:37
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Thanks Wooly, I think I got the idea. Anyhow, yeah, back on topic. 
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Knowledge is power... power corrupts... knowledge corrupts? hmm...
Death is only frightening to those who haven't died yet... |
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2004 : 04:00:57
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Leet-speak is the devil, plain and simple. Speaking as someone who used to partake in the demon of online gaming, I'll tell you it is one of the most annoying things I have ever seen. Of course, I am so annoying about proper writing that I usually yell at people who do not format their e-mails as formal letters, but could not we all do with a little class? In any case, here's a few acronyms you probably will not see here, but likely would crop up on other Dungeons & Dragons or Forgotten Realms boards from time to time:
GH = Greyhawk (the now mostly unsupported, original D&D campaign setting)
DL = Dragonlance (as in the once defunct, now resurrected Dragonlance Campaign Setting)
RL = Ravenloft (the now discontinued Ravenloft Campaign Setting, also the Domain of Dread)
DS = Dark Sun (another discontinued campaign setting)
As I said, these are unlikely to crop here at Candlekeep (we all know Alaundo hates it when we get off-Realms), but they tend to crop up elsewhere, Wizards especially. Needless to say, there was a time when it was feasable to travel from the Realms to any of these worlds, well except Dark Sun, but if you use the new cosmology...well...anyways. |
Edain Shadowstar
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jul 2004 : 12:59:20
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PC is well-established and saves three syllables. PrC is not, and either it's to be subvocalized 'pruc' or it rudely asks the many readers to do the minor effort the one writer can't be bothered for, subvocalizing the full 'prestige class' or maybe 'pee ar see' (as many syllables).
If TSR hadn't abandoned the product codes, of course, we could use them to refer to sources quickly and wouldn't have to abbreviate their titles ourselves. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2004 : 14:20:35
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I pronounce it by the letters -- P-r-C. When I joined this site, it was what was being used. And since I joined the site before learning anything about the game beyond the old SSI games (for instance, the only dice I'd ever seen before was the normal d6 and two d8s with colors instead of numbers), the terms used here are the terms I use in all cases.
So when I speak about them out loud, I talk about "double-you-oh-tee-cee," not "Wizards of the Coast," "pee-are-cee" instead of "Prestige Class," et cetera. I've no problem with this in settings where people understand it and find it the norm. I would not give a formal speech using acronyms. This forum is informal, so I am too -- to an extent. That extent is loosely defined, though, so some of you might find I'm somewhere in the middle.
For instance, I only write formal letters when I'm being formal. Perhaps I'll remember to be extra formal if I ever send one to Edain. Or perhaps not.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 21 Jul 2004 : 16:01:57
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Originally posted by Faraer
PC is well-established and saves three syllables. PrC is not, and either it's to be subvocalized 'pruc' or it rudely asks the many readers to do the minor effort the one writer can't be bothered for, subvocalizing the full 'prestige class' or maybe 'pee ar see' (as many syllables).
The problem with just using "PC" is that it has too many other meaning. In non-gaming terms it's Personal Computer or Politically Correct; in gaming terms it's Player Character. Throwing that lower-case R in there does distinguish it from the others. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2004 : 16:21:13
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The problem with just using "PC" is that it has too many other meaning. In non-gaming terms it's Personal Computer or Politically Correct; in gaming terms it's Player Character. Throwing that lower-case R in there does distinguish it from the others.
Exactly, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of how common PC is when it comes to acronyms. That's always been the reason I thought others weren't using it for Prestige Classes.
Can you see some poor new scribe: "Why do they keep thinking there are too many personal computers in recent FR books?"
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2004 : 17:21:50
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I don't think 'prestige class' should be abbreviated to PC either. The main reason I care at all is that RPG culture is already far too cluttered with insular jargon and abbreviations that tend to put off newcomers to roleplaying.
More generally, I prefer to talk and write similarly and dislike formal/informal distinctions. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2004 : 06:20:54
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Originally posted by Edain Shadowstar
RL = Ravenloft (the now discontinued Ravenloft Campaign Setting, also the Domain of Dread)
I'm surprise you forget to add that, like the DL setting, Ravenloft was also resurrected, by White Wolf in 2000. It's been well supported ever since...
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2004 : 11:54:36
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Originally posted by the Sage:
I'm surprise you forget to add that, like the DL setting, Ravenloft was also resurrected, by White Wolf in 2000. It's been well supported ever since...
Nitpicker...but seriously, before Alaundo comes to smite me, I was not a huge fan of the White Wolf products. Maybe I am just biased towards the original, but I felt something was lacking from the newer stuff. Anyways... |
Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep
"Mmm…pie…"
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Edited by - Edain Shadowstar on 23 Jul 2004 11:59:00 |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2004 : 12:07:50
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Originally posted by Edain Shadowstar
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Originally posted by the Sage:
I'm surprise you forget to add that, like the DL setting, Ravenloft was also resurrected, by White Wolf in 2000. It's been well supported ever since...
Nitpicker...but seriously, before Alaundo comes to smite me, I was not a huge fan of the White Wolf products. Maybe I am just biased towards the original, but I felt something was lacking from the newer stuff. Anyways...
No surprise-there's a very different design philosophy between TSR and WW-pick up a set of 2e core rulebooks, and compare them to the basic tome for the Mage, Vampire, or Werewolf(not Requiem, the older lines) lines and you'll see what I mean... |
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The Wanderer
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2004 : 13:02:40
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| WW is all about being generic. Every book they have published is exactly the same at it's core. There really is not that much variation between the games. Viewed as a cohesive world (i.e. Wold of Darkness). Still, I've not had a chance to really look at the new stuff that is being published. I'll have to take a peek. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2004 : 13:23:31
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Originally posted by Anubis
WW is all about being generic. Every book they have published is exactly the same at it's core. There really is not that much variation between the games. Viewed as a cohesive world (i.e. Wold of Darkness). Still, I've not had a chance to really look at the new stuff that is being published. I'll have to take a peek.
I very much disagree, but that's not a topic to be discussing here...wait until August 21st, when the new version of the World of Darkness is released... |
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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
199 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2004 : 23:03:21
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It seems this topic is dropping into obscurity. I thought the wise Alaundo mentioned his praise of the thought of this thread, and I was hoping he'd sticky it, so the new scribes could easily find it and read through it... ?
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Knowledge is power... power corrupts... knowledge corrupts? hmm...
Death is only frightening to those who haven't died yet... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2004 : 01:12:24
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Originally posted by Karesch
It seems this topic is dropping into obscurity. I thought the wise Alaundo mentioned his praise of the thought of this thread, and I was hoping he'd sticky it, so the new scribes could easily find it and read through it... ?
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It might be better to clean up what has been collected within the thread and then see if Alaundo has a place for it elsewhere. Thus, new scribes could learn from what's been revealed here without going through so many posts. |
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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
199 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2004 : 02:54:09
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should I perhaps collect all the information of acronyms in something like wordpad, then start a new thread and put them all in my initial post do you think SB?
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Knowledge is power... power corrupts... knowledge corrupts? hmm...
Death is only frightening to those who haven't died yet... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2004 : 04:27:25
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Originally posted by Karesch
should I perhaps collect all the information of acronyms in something like wordpad, then start a new thread and put them all in my initial post do you think SB?
K
Email Alaundo first and share your idea for doing that action. That way you can see if he hasn't already got plans for putting acronymns detailed here in an area for newcomers. |
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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
199 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2004 : 04:48:19
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k, Thank-you SB, I'll get on emailing Alaundo now, so I don't forget. Hopefully he'll find the scroll on his table soon.
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Knowledge is power... power corrupts... knowledge corrupts? hmm...
Death is only frightening to those who haven't died yet... |
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Tethtoril
Seeker
95 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2004 : 05:03:03
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Do not fear Alaundo! Fear me!  I come to smite you all with the Feather Duster of Doom! This is now woefully away from what it began as - acronym's. Please, please bring it back to topic. And if you want to discuss other Realms not of Toril please take it to the new forum here. |
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Karesch
Learned Scribe
Canada
199 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2004 : 05:40:24
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Aye Mr. Tethoril, it did move off topic alot, thats why me and SB there were talking about me mailing Alaundo about starting a new thread with a compiled list of what was presented in this thread for Acronyms, that could be stickied, and this one locked and back shelved forever.
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Knowledge is power... power corrupts... knowledge corrupts? hmm...
Death is only frightening to those who haven't died yet... |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Jul 2004 : 10:20:32
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Well met
Thank ye, Tethtoril
Indeed, this scroll has certainly become messy of late, i'll therefore slip it on shelf yonder.
I am currently collating the acronyms of which I know (Realms product acronyms in particular) and will open a new scroll in due time. If any scribes wish to contact me with their lists of known acronyms then this would be appreciated.
Thank ye. |
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