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Dargoth
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 Posted - 22 May 2004 : 03:13:52
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I just thought of a great way to advance realm timeline on a more regular basis.
Back in the days of the 1ed Grey boxset there was a section called "Recent News and Rumours section".
Which covered a month by month write up of what was going on in the realms.
Now what I was thinking is that the Realms time seems to advance at half the Speed of the real world. So say every 2 months WOTC posts an article for one month of realms time ie you'd we'd get 6 realms months a year. The articles themselves would get larger and larger as WOTC released more regional source books. ie There would be no news for a region that hasnt recieved a write up yet
Assuming the article was running today there would be news for the Silver Marches, Unapproachable east and the Underdark, when Serpent Kingdoms comes out we would start seeing articles on the region covered in that book, When Shinning South comes out in October we'd start seeing news for that region.
What do you think?
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 03:43:45
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Originally posted by Dargoth
What do you think?
I'd love to see something like you suggested. However, your proposal has no mention of Prestige Classes, Feats, or Eberron.
Therefore, there is no way it will ever happen. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 03:46:28
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Dargoth
What do you think?
I'd love to see something like you suggested. However, your proposal has no mention of Prestige Classes, Feats, or Eberron.
Therefore, there is no way it will ever happen.
None of the FR web articles have Prestiage class, feats or Eberron |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 03:53:09
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Originally posted by Dargoth
None of the FR web articles have Prestiage class, feats or Eberron
You honestly think your idea will fly as a WOTC web article?
Okay, good luck to you. I truly hope it comes to light. I'd happily read it. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 05:55:37
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Originally posted by Dargoth
I just thought of a great way to advance realm timeline on a more regular basis.
Back in the days of the 1ed Grey boxset there was a section called "Recent News and Rumours section".
Which covered a month by month write up of what was going on in the realms.
Now what I was thinking is that the Realms time seems to advance at half the Speed of the real world. So say every 2 months WOTC posts an article for one month of realms time ie you'd we'd get 6 realms months a year. The articles themselves would get larger and larger as WOTC released more regional source books. ie There would be no news for a region that hasnt recieved a write up yet
Assuming the article was running today there would be news for the Silver Marches, Unapproachable east and the Underdark, when Serpent Kingdoms comes out we would start seeing articles on the region covered in that book, When Shinning South comes out in October we'd start seeing news for that region.
What do you think?
While your idea has some merit Dargoth, and it would be something that I would truly enjoy seeing (being a big fan of the old "Recent News and Rumours section" myself), I just can't see it happening...at least in the immediate post-Eberron release environment. WotC have talked about the possibility for a majority of their web-based articles to focus on Eberron for the time being, so they're unlikely to undertake anything else which will detract resources away from that.
On the plus side, it's not really preventing us from extrapolating certains Realmsian trends and trying to create our own "News and Rumors section" here at Candlekeep. Granted it will be fan-based, but there is already so much fan-based material supporting the Realms now, one more addition is unlikely to affect the core setting in any kind of way.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 06:49:06
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I'd love to see that, too. Back in the good ol' days ( ), whenever I got a new FR product, one of the first sections I checked out was always the Current News & Rumors section. I so miss that... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 06:55:58
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When the second revised FR boxed set was released, I could often be found carrying around a copy of the Running the Realms tome. You know, the one that details the (then) game time year of 1367 DR. The (then) current News & Rumors section was filled with my extra notes and campaign tidbits that I had collected while campaigning in the Realms during that year...
Ahh, memories...
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 14:10:19
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| I'd help. Maybe the scribes of Candlekeep should concentrate their efforts on two or three monolithic projects together, and do smaller tasks themselves. This being a good example of a monolithic project, and the epic adventure being another...I have another idea(a monolithic conversion project) but I'll try avoiding going too off-topic... |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 15:13:30
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I think that this is a great idea for the scribes at Candlekeep to amass and release periodically. With the combined number of campaigns that are being run by the membership at the keep, we should be able to cover a pretty wide swath of the realms.
I'd certainly volunteer to take Damara/Vaasa/Narfell... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 15:56:07
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Originally posted by The Sage
Brother Ezra has presented an interesting addition to this idea. What about we assign certain areas to certain scribes...?
Not a bad idea. I'd be willing to cover any of the following: The Silver Marches/Savage Frontier, beyond and including the Spine of the World, Anauroch(including Shade), anything east of the Sea of Fallen Stars and north of Chessenta, out to the edge of Kara-Tur. I could also cover events on the new tree cosmology and non-drow Underdark. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2004 : 16:45:05
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 16:51:29
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Ah, well then I may leave the Border Kingdoms for now. Are they detailed to any degree in the new Shining South tome?
If not, I'll reconsider it, but for the time being my focus will be the Dalelands and Moonsea region...and if no one else is interested, maybe Sembia. But that depends on whether I'll be working on the Border Kingdoms...
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 16:56:19
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 18:49:20
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I would be interested in this: both reading and contributing.
I could do the Underdark, or the Realms' seas, and would love to do the Great Dale, but in general I don't have enough 2e products to do human Realms areas. |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 20:32:44
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As far as I am concerned, the most disappointing release in FR history was the 3.5 Faerun Players Handbook. After the incredible work in the 3.0 Faerun book, it seemed like WOTC didn't even want to try to update things in the slightest. I think that there were only about a dozen or so "current events" that it made mention of...a huge disappointment...
Worse, those few updates came STRAIGHT out of FR novels, and having read all of those particular novels, and having little interest in the expanded feats and such, I had no desire to purchase the book. In other words, I was content to keep my 3.0 Faerun text and my knowledge of FR lore.
For what it's worth, an update like what has been suggested by good Dargoth would go FAR to keep my interest in purchasing new information about Toril...especially after the 3.5 Faerunian Fiasco as I've come to call it... |
My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 22:31:44
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Originally posted by Arion Elenim
As far as I am concerned, the most disappointing release in FR history was the 3.5 Faerun Players Handbook. After the incredible work in the 3.0 Faerun book, it seemed like WOTC didn't even want to try to update things in the slightest. I think that there were only about a dozen or so "current events" that it made mention of...a huge disappointment...
Worse, those few updates came STRAIGHT out of FR novels, and having read all of those particular novels, and having little interest in the expanded feats and such, I had no desire to purchase the book. In other words, I was content to keep my 3.0 Faerun text and my knowledge of FR lore.
For what it's worth, an update like what has been suggested by good Dargoth would go FAR to keep my interest in purchasing new information about Toril...especially after the 3.5 Faerunian Fiasco as I've come to call it...
This is the precise reason I chose not to buy the Player's Guide to Faerun as well. What interests me the most about a new FR release is the development of the timeline, and the details about new areas that haven't been examined yet. This is what I loved so much about the 2nd edition regional supplements, and I sorely miss them. UE and hopefully Shining South have filled the void somewhat, but I was really disappointed in the 4 or so pages of local news that the PGtF contained.
I think that this idea has the potential to be pretty neat. A lot of creative people post on this site, and almost all seem to miss the lore that 3.X FR seems to lack. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to contribute. |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2004 : 22:35:57
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One other thing.
I think that our first rule of thumb in generating these updates should be:
No Realms-shattering events! |
"Suffering is the touchstone of all spiritual growth."
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Chyron
Learned Scribe
Hong Kong
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 03:03:36
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I'd like to help as well if my novice scribing abilities would be accepted.
If no one has already spoken for it my main area of interest is on the areas west of the Sunset Mountains South of Boarskyr and east of Woods of Sharp Teeth (Darkhold, Hluthvar Asbravn, etc). 
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 03:04:41
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Originally posted by Brother Ezra
One other thing.
I think that our first rule of thumb in generating these updates should be:
No Realms-shattering events!
Define a Realms shattering event? and I dont mean give an example what is and is not a RSE
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 03:22:17
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Originally posted by The Sage
Brother Ezra has presented an interesting addition to this idea. What about we assign certain areas to certain scribes...?
I suggest we start by giving 1 region to each interested scribe (using the map on page 7 of the Players guide to Faerun)more region can be handed out if we dont have enough scribes to cover all the regions.
I also suggest we dont hand out regions for areas that have announced source book ie Serpent Kingdoms, Shinning south and Waterdeep |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 06:10:58
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Brother Ezra
One other thing.
I think that our first rule of thumb in generating these updates should be:
No Realms-shattering events!
Define a Realms shattering event? and I dont mean give an example what is and is not a RSE
Well, I was thinking along the lines of the time of troubles, but I could expand this a little:
1. No events that cause changes to the FR pantheon
2. No events that cause major changes in geography
3. No events that would cause a major shift in power structure over multiple regions (a la destruction of Zhentil Keep)
Just some thoughts on the subject. Feel free to object or modify according to your tastes. I would just hate to se the Second Dawn Cataclysm, a Rage of Dragons, the return of the Creator Races and the invasion by the drow of the surface world all occur in a space of six months |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 06:19:20
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| Well your already getting 1 out of 4 but you'll have to blame RLB for that! |
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Edited by - Dargoth on 23 May 2004 06:19:56 |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 09:19:44
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I'll take Impiltur and the area I call The Dragonshoulder (Procampur and Tsurlagol) if that's okay. As for RSEs, well I've had some ideas re Impiltur's monarchy for a while (aided and abetted by Eric Boyd's masterful scholarship), so I'll try and behave.
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 09:35:40
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I'll take Impiltur and the area I call The Dragonshoulder (Procampur and Tsurlagol) if that's okay. As for RSEs, well I've had some ideas re Impiltur's monarchy for a while (aided and abetted by Eric Boyd's masterful scholarship), so I'll try and behave.
-- George Krashos
I was thinking you might be looking for at Impiltur, George...We'll have to work out how our different parts will interact, so if I set something off in Thesk, what might that do to Sarelle's The Great Dale and Brother Ezra's Narfell... |
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George Krashos
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 09:49:18
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Good realmslore is coherent, interconnected realmslore. So I'm happy to be careful not to tread on any Theskian or Great Daler toes. As for Narfell, those horse-smelling savages can look after themselves!
Initially however, I'll concentrate on 'internal' stuff.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 09:49:46
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Originally posted by Arivia
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I'll take Impiltur and the area I call The Dragonshoulder (Procampur and Tsurlagol) if that's okay. As for RSEs, well I've had some ideas re Impiltur's monarchy for a while (aided and abetted by Eric Boyd's masterful scholarship), so I'll try and behave.
-- George Krashos
I was thinking you might be looking for at Impiltur, George...We'll have to work out how our different parts will interact, so if I set something off in Thesk, what might that do to Sarelle's The Great Dale and Brother Ezra's Narfell...
Best way would be for person to consult with the person who owns the other region if you want to use a plot that spans or will effect multiple regions |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 09:56:46
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| Okay. Dargoth, is there anything you were looking at covering? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 10:05:56
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Id be interested in the Moonsea or maybe Unther
Regarding GeorgeK and the other published guys like SteveS and Eric Boyd who contribute to the board, Id give them first option on regions for example if Eric wanted to do something with Ched Nesad or if Steve wanted to do something with one of the Aquatic regions etc Id be quite happy for them to do it. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 10:22:39
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Id be interested in the Moonsea or maybe Unther
Regarding the Moonsea, you'll have to talk to the Sage...Unther's fine, however-especially if you can cover some more of the areas around there...
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Regarding GeorgeK and the other published guys like SteveS and Eric Boyd who contribute to the board, Id give them first option on regions for example if Eric wanted to do something with Ched Nesad or if Steve wanted to do something with one of the Aquatic regions etc Id be quite happy for them to do it.
I agree...although I can't see what Eric would do with Ched Nasad without killing (George) Krashos off... |
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