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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 18 Oct 2004 :  16:22:58  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Well, by now it's likely that some of you have "tasted" the new format and material in both magazines. As I am not a regular subscriber, I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts from those scribes here at Candlekeep who still occasionally pick up an issue of either magazine here and there...


Issue 320 was the last useful magazine I purchased... I then purchased 323 as I was curious of the new format. Let me tell you that it seriously lacks in usefulness now. I have not purchased another magazine since. The new format has killed it for me, as it does NOT contain any Realms content anymore... 320 was the last one with Realms content (with Richard Lee Byers's avariel short story)
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Well, by now it's likely that some of you have "tasted" the new format and material in both magazines. As I am not a regular subscriber, I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts from those scribes here at Candlekeep who still occasionally pick up an issue of either magazine here and there...


Issue 320 was the last useful magazine I purchased... I then purchased 323 as I was curious of the new format. Let me tell you that it seriously lacks in usefulness now. I have not purchased another magazine since. The new format has killed it for me, as it does NOT contain any Realms content anymore... 320 was the last one with Realms content (with Richard Lee Byers's avariel short story)

I suspected as much, although, there was still a part of me that was hoping that the changes would not be too significant to evoke such a response.

It looks like I'll be renewing my subscription to White Dwarf next month...

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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 18 Oct 2004 :  16:44:59  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Well, by now it's likely that some of you have "tasted" the new format and material in both magazines. As I am not a regular subscriber, I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts from those scribes here at Candlekeep who still occasionally pick up an issue of either magazine here and there...


I just recently subscribed to Dragon and got my first issue last week Issue 325 November. I thought it was very well done. Its very general so you can use everything in any campaign you want. The first 1/4 of the magazine wasn't that interesting to me its mainly previews of upcoming games or books (stuff that I've read online already) and a couple pages of readers mail telling how great the magazine is... The last 3/4 is simply awesome though and really makes up for that first 1/4. Theres a section adapting Dungeon Siege spellbooks to D&D, very cool stuff. Then theres a section on making orangespice (spice melange) from the Dune novels! I'm a big fan of Dune Also Orangeseer (similar to navigators) and Sandworms! Then theres a comic section, not terribly good but not horrible either. A very well done article on your heroes hometown. Arcane ancestry with bloodline feats to show where your sorcerer got their power (doesn't have to be dragon ancestry!). Section on war magic which is a very general article on how to best select and use different types of spells, very easy to understand for those who are rules challenged like myself A ton of theurg feats that mix arcane with divine, not for me though I'm sure some will like this. A very detailed article on duergar, lots of good fluff Bunch of new shadow spells, Bookwyrm will like these for his new character. An article of magic items from the Pharonic pantheon, very cool desert items. Some more feats this time for specialist wizards. An awesome prestige class The Bowman Charger for a mounted archer, I'll definitely use this somewhere Then my favorite article from the whole magazine details the Lupin race, I guess an older race brought back but they are new to me Some interesting class-based articles. A very interesting article on metagamers, now I know what to call all you know-it-all people Cool adventure tricks. Your questions answered section, lots of good info. And a short interview with the Eberron designer. All that in just one issue, I'd say its well worth the subscription I paid

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Faraer
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Posted - 18 Oct 2004 :  18:33:26  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
320 was the last one with Realms content (with Richard Lee Byers's avariel short story)
#321 and 322 both have "Elminster's Guide to the Realms" and "Faiths of Faerūn" pieces, plus #322 has a "Rogues Gallery".
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Its very general so you can use everything in any campaign you want.
I just don't believe this. So-called 'generic' articles are just as setting-specific as those for named settings, and the only articles (except general advice pieces) useable in almost any campaign are so vague or bland as to be useless.
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Arnwyn
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I don't much care for Dragon anymore, and have just let my long-running subscription run out. New feats, PrCs, spells, magic items, and races no longer interest me... and the removal of all FR material sealed the deal.

Dungeon, on the other hand, is great. Not Realms specific (and what FR stuff they do include is very very weak), but I love adventures.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Well, by now it's likely that some of you have "tasted" the new format and material in both magazines. As I am not a regular subscriber, I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts from those scribes here at Candlekeep who still occasionally pick up an issue of either magazine here and there...

Theres a section adapting Dungeon Siege spellbooks to D&D, very cool stuff. Then theres a section on making orangespice (spice melange) from the Dune novels! I'm a big fan of Dune Also Orangeseer (similar to navigators) and Sandworms!

That sounds particularly interesting. Care to share any juicy tidbits then...?



quote:
And a short interview with the Eberron designer.
I assume you mean the original designer, that being in the person of Keith Baker?

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 19 Oct 2004 :  14:15:10  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

quote:
320 was the last one with Realms content (with Richard Lee Byers's avariel short story)
#321 and 322 both have "Elminster's Guide to the Realms" and "Faiths of Faerūn" pieces, plus #322 has a "Rogues Gallery
Oops... I must have missed those: I usually flip through them very quickly to see if anything Realms-related is in the book... I must have skipped the "Elminster" article on issue 321... issue 322 I haven't been able to find as it sold rather fast at my friendly local game store. Sorry to you all for the misleading comment, and thanks to Faraer and Wood Elf for pointing this out!
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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 19 Oct 2004 :  20:09:43  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
PDK, I didn't point that out it was just Faraer. Issue 325 the one I got did not have anything Realms specific in it. Though there was quite a bit that could be used in the Realms.

Sage, yes I certainly will post a few more juicy tidbits from that article. Either tonight or tomorrow as I need to get going to work pretty soon here.

~Lee N.

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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Oct 2004 :  07:16:05  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

Sage, yes I certainly will post a few more juicy tidbits from that article. Either tonight or tomorrow as I need to get going to work pretty soon here.

There's no rush Fletch . I was mainly curious about the particular details from the article...

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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 20 Oct 2004 :  19:15:11  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Upon Sages request here is some more info on those articles plus my own thoughts on them.


The article about Eberron is done by James Wyatt, one of the WotC designers.


The Dungeon Seige-like spellbooks are called synergistic spellbooks. They are considdered minor artifacts. They are very similar to the deity specific items I made not too long ago, remember those that increased in power with level? These bestow special abilities depending on the number of spells per day you can prepare. For example if your wizard can prepare 5-13 spells in the Book of Warding he will receive Sheild Bonus +4 and be immune to magic missles.

Personally I think items that gain power as you do is a superb idea and the examples given in this article are an excellent starting block to design some of your own.


Orangespice for D&D is treated like a drug like those listed in BoVD. There is a very nice table that notes how long the character has been addicted to the drug, spell-like abilitiy you recieve, Fort DC + number of saves, Damage you receive if you don't make the save, and lifespan increase.

I thought this was very well done and pretty true to the origional conception. It costs quite a bit as it should too.


The orangeseer is a new monster that is saturated with orangespice.

It is similar to the Navigators of Dune as in seeing the future and such but it is made very much for the D&D system. Personally I think an excellent spot for this monster would be in Rashemen, it just seems like it would fit there.


Sandworms are just awesome. They use a variation of the purple worm that creates orangespice. I'm glad they did that to show the connection but they should have added a few other things for example how sandworms can track by vibration, taking double damage from water or frost, and something on being able to ride them would be awesome as well


All in all some very interesting and thought provoking articles

~Lee N.

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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 :  03:04:42  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger
Sandworms are just awesome. They use a variation of the purple worm that creates orangespice. I'm glad they did that to show the connection but they should have added a few other things for example how sandworms can track by vibration, taking double damage from water or frost, and something on being able to ride them would be awesome as well

Hey, thanks for the information Fletch .

Now, one last question... Did those sandworms have a CR?

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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 21 Oct 2004 :  08:37:40  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It says to reduce the CR of the Purple Worm by 1. This is due to the fact that it can only burrow through sand and loses the poisonous sting attack. Increase tremorsense by 1 mile. It also says to change the advancement line to 16-32 HD (Gargantuan; 33+ (Colossal) and not to be afraid of making your sandworm bigger

"Sandworms average about 300 feet long , 20 feet in diameter, and about 80 tons. Some deep desert dwellers claim to have spotted sandworms around 1,000 feet long."

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 22 Oct 2004 :  03:42:40  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Paizo has posted the cover for Dungeon 117.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

Paizo has posted the cover for Dungeon 117.

I think I may purchase this particular issue, if only because of my curiosity for the City of Shadows.

It was always a favorite adventuring locale in my older GH campaigns... It will be interesting to see what has become of the place and what type of adventure the magazine has set in it. Or perhaps maybe, it's a purely fluff article, like the article on Hardby in Dungeon #109.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 23 Oct 2004 :  17:01:52  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I think I may purchase this particular issue, if only because of my curiosity for the City of Shadows.



An EN World member has posted details on this issue.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I think I may purchase this particular issue, if only because of my curiosity for the City of Shadows.



An EN World member has posted details on this issue.

Ah. Thanks Sirius .

It looks like the City of Shadows has received both an adventure, and "a complete urban dark fantasy mini-setting for all D&D campaigns".

Does this 'urban dark fantasy setting' sound particularly interesting to anyone here? It will likely be very generalisd, so it can be used with all D&D campaigns...

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 24 Oct 2004 :  04:32:26  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Does this 'urban dark fantasy setting' sound particularly interesting to anyone here?



It does depending upon what the author feels is an "urban dark fantasy setting." My definition/preference might differ from what the author is presenting.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Does this 'urban dark fantasy setting' sound particularly interesting to anyone here?



It does depending upon what the author feels is an "urban dark fantasy setting." My definition/preference might differ from what the author is presenting.

I'm intrigued.

How would you define a "urban dark fantasy setting", Sirius?

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Wooly Rupert
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Well, I'm not SB, but when I think of urban dark fantasy, I think of the book Faerie Tale, by Raymond E Feist. If you've not read it, it involves a family of regular people who winds up having some not-pleasant dealings with some of the Unseelie Court...

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 24 Oct 2004 :  22:48:38  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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How would you define a "urban dark fantasy setting", Sirius?



Ever encountered the D20 Freeport trilogy? It has an urban dark fantasy feel although to make it fit more my definition, I'd make it a bit darker. But, that is something that comes close to what I'd like to see.
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Posted - 24 Oct 2004 :  23:35:55  Show Profile  Visit Capn Charlie's Homepage Send Capn Charlie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dark urban fantasy, huh? For me, it is summed up with two words: Thieve's World

There is a little bit of sanctuary in all of my large cities.

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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
How would you define a "urban dark fantasy setting", Sirius?



Ever encountered the D20 Freeport trilogy? It has an urban dark fantasy feel although to make it fit more my definition, I'd make it a bit darker. But, that is something that comes close to what I'd like to see.

No, I haven't. Although, I've always wanted to. I've just never had the requisite gold pieces left over that I could use to purchase non specific or required accessories.

I might look into though... especially since November is "supposedly" an easy month in terms of WotC releases.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
No, I haven't. Although, I've always wanted to. I've just never had the requisite gold pieces left over that I could use to purchase non specific or required accessories.

I might look into though... especially since November is "supposedly" an easy month in terms of WotC releases.



I thought the Freeport trilogy was at one time being offered in PDF format to update the module to 3.5.

And yes, once I finish SS, I'm waiting til December to get Mistress of Pain.

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My copy of December's Dragon 326 arrived Friday and I just wanted to highlight a few cool things found within

A section on some feats inspired by the World of Warcraft MMORPG (Who all is going to play this game with me?!!! ). I thought these were very cool, feats to use Wild Empathy on monstrous creatures, have a monstrous creature as an animal companion, a feat similar to rageing but different, and a quick wild feat for druids.

Down the Drain - a section on sewers! People who live in the sewers, monsters who live in the sewers, adventuring in the sewers, strategies, traps, all kinds of fun stuff! An adventure in the city is never complete until you forray into the sewers beneath

Get Lost - A section on mazes! Some real-world mazes to base your own on, descriptions of different kinds of mazes, their difficulty level, traps and tricks to put in them, tricks to help your characters to get through them, all kinds of fun stuff

Ecology of the Rakshasa - Who doesn't want to know more about these evil cats? Lots of Realms and Eberron specific material here too!

Cantrips and Orisons - These are great! Some new beginning level spells some are pretty funny but all are useful!

Nature Unleashed - Nature-based items, very lovely! Y'all know I'm a fan of nature These items will definitely see use by me!

The Shaper of Form - A very cool PrC based on the Transmutation specialized wizard.

Plus tons more stuff, those were just my favorites!

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quote:
Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

My copy of December's Dragon 326 arrived Friday and I just wanted to highlight a few cool things found within



How's the Realms article by Richard Lee Byers?
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Richard's article, called The Rite, is of course about his series of books. It is short and to the point giving a basic description as to what the books are about. Then he gives background and stats for two of the main characters: Kara the songdragon bard, and Dorn the dragonslayer. These characters are statted out very nicely using lots of feats from the Draconomicon.

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Originally posted by Wood Elf Ranger

A section on some feats inspired by the World of Warcraft MMORPG (Who all is going to play this game with me?!!! ).

I wouldn't mind dipping my quill into this particular inkwell, Fletch . I've been wanting to give this recently completed MMORPG a run for a while now. And, I've gotten a little tired with Phantasy Star Online, so the break might do me good. Let me know what think about this...

quote:
Ecology of the Rakshasa - Who doesn't want to know more about these evil cats?
There was rumors circulating that new varieties of the standard Rakshasa were to be included in this article, to complement what was presented in MMIII. Can you confirm this, Fletch?

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As soon as I finish this post a PM will be comming your way Sage

The Rakshasa does not fully detail any new subraces though it does mention a few. It mentions that besides the standard cat-like races there are some rarer Rakshasa with ape, mantis, or crocodile heads. It does not go any futher than mentioning that fact.

It does have a breif blurb on the new subraces mentioned both in MMIII and Eberron as well and how they fit into the Rakshasa society.

It also details Ravanna, the Rakshasa deity they worship.

Then it gives some tips for players on how to stay alive when you know a Rakshasa is behind the plot, though even finding that out is difficult enough!

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Erik Mona posted on 14 Nov 2004:
quote:
I've just approved 5-6 Eberron articles by Keith Baker and 4-6 significant Forgotten Realms articles by Ed Greenwood to be published over the course of 2005.

Edited by - Faraer on 15 Nov 2004 17:21:39
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It also details Ravanna, the Rakshasa deity they worship.

Does it detail Ravanna's portfolio, and the domains her worshippers receive access to? I'm curious to see whether they've altered the details for this deity since 2e...

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