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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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 Posted - 22 May 2004 : 07:11:17
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It is at that. It's my fault really  . Everytime I visit Candlekeep, I start reading the new entries in each section of the library, from the bottom up. 
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Sompeetalay
Acolyte
Belgium
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Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 14:18:59
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Hi ...
I have been looking now for 2 days for a copy of the SW Droids Article in Polyhedron in Dungeon 111. The magazine is nowhere to be found in Belgium and I cannot find a decent store to get it online.
The official SW site announced the presence of this article in Polyhedron two days ago, when this magazine was already released for more than 3 weeks.
I've always liked the Droids Cartoons from SW, so if there is anybody who could scan this article for me, it would fantastic. I have plenty of SW material to scan for you in return.
Thanks
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 14:33:51
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Originally posted by Sompeetalay
Hi ...
I have been looking now for 2 days for a copy of the SW Droids Article in Polyhedron in Dungeon 111. The magazine is nowhere to be found in Belgium and I cannot find a decent store to get it online.
The official SW site announced the presence of this article in Polyhedron two days ago, when this magazine was already released for more than 3 weeks.
I've always liked the Droids Cartoons from SW, so if there is anybody who could scan this article for me, it would fantastic. I have plenty of SW material to scan for you in return.
Thanks
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Suggest you try this place in the UK
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Emperor Sigismund
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Sompeetalay
Acolyte
Belgium
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Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 14:46:40
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It seems like a very decent website, but Dungeon 111 is not in stock at the moment...
I would really like to have the information on the characters, planets and vehicles from the article.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 15:45:29
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Originally posted by Sompeetalay
It seems like a very decent website, but Dungeon 111 is not in stock at the moment...
I would really like to have the information on the characters, planets and vehicles from the article.
Thx
you could try Pazio in the US
http://www.paizopublishing.com/
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Emperor Sigismund
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Sompeetalay
Acolyte
Belgium
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Posted - 05 Jun 2004 : 16:32:31
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Thx, but I already tried that. It would cost me more than 15$ to get it ... Then I discovered several German online stores, but you are not able to pay with Visa at these sites, neither to they ship outside Germany or Austria ...
I also found a site in the UK, but it gives an error when trying to pay with Visa.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jul 2004 : 05:21:33
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| Silven Crossroads has an interview up featuring Erik Mona Editor-in-Chief of Dungeon Magazine. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jul 2004 : 14:04:01
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2004 : 19:18:03
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Someone at ENWorld just posted a link to the new cover style for Dungeon magazine.
Thoughts? Opinions? |
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AlacLuin
Learned Scribe
131 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2004 : 20:03:16
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Someone at ENWorld just posted a link to the new cover style for Dungeon magazine.
Thoughts? Opinions?
My thought is Ick!!!
Looks like a throw back bad 60's style logo.
And do we really need to hear from Wil Wheaton? (maybe I'll be surprised) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2004 : 20:36:39
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Originally posted by AlacLuin
My thought is Ick!!!
Looks like a throw back bad 60's style logo.
Information from the ENWorld thread puts forth that the change was so the magazine could be noticed more when on display with other items. I must say, mission accomplished with that design. However, it's a bit too bold/in your face for me. It looks like a comic book cover now. But, I can't blame them for changing it if they believe it will help sales.
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And do we really need to hear from Wil Wheaton? (maybe I'll be surprised)
Who? Never heard of him. Is he someone important to D&D?  |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 09:25:18
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| URGH! That is appauling! Theres no design or depth gone into that logo at all! The current logo is the best yet, IMO. This new one is embarrasing. Its simply something thats been typed up in MS-Word in a second! |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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AlacLuin
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 17:49:00
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Who? Never heard of him. Is he someone important to D&D?
Wil Wheaton, cant remember the character name, but he was on Star Trek, the next generation, he was the red headed doctor's son.
So, no AFAIK, he isint that important to D&D.
That’s why I wonder if we really need to hear from him.
On another note, after writing this, I think I'm getting a grasp of Sirius' sarcasm.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 01:01:03
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On a side note, Dungeon can't seem to spell Eberron. The cover of #113 promises an "Ebberon poster map" and the "first ever Ebberon adventure"
I think I'm going to miss that symbol on the cover spawned of a G and a 3...you know what I mean... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 03:43:05
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Originally posted by Arivia
On a side note, Dungeon can't seem to spell Eberron. The cover of #113 promises an "Ebberon poster map" and the "first ever Ebberon adventure"
Quality editing brought to by the folks at Ukta, the month after Uktar in the new FR calendar.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 06:13:09
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Arivia
On a side note, Dungeon can't seem to spell Eberron. The cover of #113 promises an "Ebberon poster map" and the "first ever Ebberon adventure"
Quality editing brought to by the folks at Ukta, the month after Uktar in the new FR calendar.
Have they been having problems with editors or something, then? Flubbing Eberron is a pretty big one... And Ukta was one of many errors I noted in the PGtF. There were some punctuation errors, some things that were supposed to be bold-faced but weren't, and of course, the listing for what happened in Ukta. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 07:04:10
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Have they been having problems with editors or something, then? Flubbing Eberron is a pretty big one... And Ukta was one of many errors I noted in the PGtF. There were some punctuation errors, some things that were supposed to be bold-faced but weren't, and of course, the listing for what happened in Ukta.
No idea. I think if one looks hard enough one can always find errors in a product though this one, spelling Eberron incorrectly on a cover, is a very noticeable one.
I wonder if a disgruntled FR/Greyhawk fan is responsible? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 07:21:32
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Have they been having problems with editors or something, then? Flubbing Eberron is a pretty big one... And Ukta was one of many errors I noted in the PGtF. There were some punctuation errors, some things that were supposed to be bold-faced but weren't, and of course, the listing for what happened in Ukta.
No idea. I think if one looks hard enough one can always find errors in a product though this one, spelling Eberron incorrectly on a cover, is a very noticeable one.
I wonder if a disgruntled FR/Greyhawk fan is responsible?
I'll certainly grant that if one looks hard enough, one can find errors... But here's the thing: I wasn't looking, and I saw more errors in the PGtF than I'd seen in any three previous books. As I said previously, errors tend to jump out at me...
My point is that even though I do have a tendency to be able to find those errors without looking, I was still going through that book as a casual reader.
Now, if a casual reader can find errors like that, why can a professional editor (or team of editors) not find them?
Heck, the Ukta thing coulda been found with a simple spellcheck, and a grammar check (like the one Word does while spellchecking) would have caught a lot of the other errors... |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 09:10:19
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Originally posted by Arivia
I think I'm going to miss that symbol on the cover spawned of a G and a 3...you know what I mean...
That was also what I found quite ingenius out the current logo, and is the best by far, ill certainly miss it too
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I wonder if a disgruntled FR/Greyhawk fan is responsible?
So thats where you disappeared too lately, Sirius
::whispers:: good work
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 14:50:59
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Now, if a casual reader can find errors like that, why can a professional editor (or team of editors) not find them?
Sigh, I know, trust me, I know. I was just trying to be....delicate. You're not the only one to find errors within FR items without looking. However, I'd like to put forth that this development is not just within the FR world. In the past few years, I've seen it in more than one company's gaming product and elsewhere too. I have no idea why. Editors overworked? A slide just in general skills throughout the nation?
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
So thats where you disappeared too lately, Sirius
::whispers:: good work
 Sirius purposely publishing a misspelling? Oh no, my OCD would kick in. If I wanted to start a counter Eberron campaign I'd do something like publish a photo of a certain felon that is about to be sentenced today walking into court with an Eberron book under her arm.
I do not read Dragon/Dungeon magazine on a regular basis. Thus, I have no idea if editing errors are common. Any subscriber/regular reader have thoughts on this?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 15:45:13
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I do not read Dragon/Dungeon magazine on a regular basis. Thus, I have no idea if editing errors are common. Any subscriber/regular reader have thoughts on this?
I've seen errors in Dragon before, but not terribly oft. I don't read Dungeon enough to call myself a regular reader. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 15:55:30
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| Editorial standards have slipped back in many areas of publishing because they have minimal short-term effect on bottom line. Time and budget allocated to copyediting and proofreading are vulnerable in an undercapitalized industry whose products are undervalued -- all the more so for RPG publishers, most of which have very low profit margins; D&D has bigger profit margins but is required to or Wizards would drop it. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 17:28:48
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Originally posted by Faraer
Editorial standards have slipped back in many areas of publishing because they have minimal short-term effect on bottom line. Time and budget allocated to copyediting and proofreading are vulnerable in an undercapitalized industry whose products are undervalued -- all the more so for RPG publishers, most of which have very low profit margins; D&D has bigger profit margins but is required to or Wizards would drop it.
Still, as I said previously, a simple spelling and grammar check, like the one in Word, would have caught several of those problems I noted. So unless all that stuff went straight to the printer from either handwritten pages or a typewriter, then some of it should have been caught. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2004 : 14:37:07
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| GamingReport has some news regarding downloadable maps from Dungeon #114. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2004 : 18:16:55
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| WOTC has a new article up regarding the new format for both magazines. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2004 : 07:07:02
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From the article -
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...Star Trek: The Next Generation star and über-geek Wil Wheaton shares his insights on the life of a gamer in the amusing Wil Save.
I'm still not so sure about this. I never particularly liked his character anyway (until his connection to the mysterious Traveller developed), so I'm not really sure I want to hear his thoughts about his gaming life (afterall, isn't this why we have forums -- to discuss each others gaming experiences ). I would rather have seen these pages dedicated to something more related to "fluff".
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2004 : 05:47:05
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From a GamingReport story detailing Erik Mona's recent interview for the Mortality Radio show
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A long past due interview with our guest, Erik Mona, and the rest of the Paizo crew to boot. The interview covered the early roots of Dragon and Dungeon, through present day, and future plans as well. We had alot of fun with this show.
The 20.3 MB interview can be downloaded here.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2004 : 09:28:55
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Thanks Sirius. I won't get chance to listen to this until probably the weekend, could you possibly summarise what the future holds from what Erik said at the interview?  |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2004 : 15:38:08
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Well, by now it's likely that some of you have "tasted" the new format and material in both magazines. As I am not a regular subscriber, I'd appreciate hearing the thoughts from those scribes here at Candlekeep who still occasionally pick up an issue of either magazine here and there...
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Oct 2004 : 16:14:56
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
Thanks Sirius. I won't get chance to listen to this until probably the weekend, could you possibly summarise what the future holds from what Erik said at the interview?
No idea as I haven't listened to it yet. Doing that might cut into my time spent reading The Ruby Guardian.  I posted this as an FYI and a hope that some other scribe might listen and find out what future plans are in hold for both magazines and what FR discussion, if any, was conducted regarding both magazines. |
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The 'New' Dragon and Dungeon Magazines
