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sleyvas
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Posted - 30 Oct 2021 :  00:32:07  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Made this as an option for using artificers in a Maztican, Anchorome, Lopango, Katashaka style game

https://www.dmsguild.com/product/375827/True-World--Artisan--An-Artificer-Specialization-for-Plumaweavers-Hishnashapers-and-Hornsculptors?src=newest_community&filters=45469_0_0_0_0_0_0_0

It's a veering away from the concept that was originally presented in that Pluma is good and tied to Qotal and Hishna is bad and tied to Zaltec. Instead these magical artisans have come together to share their knowledge of magical craftsmanship... but rather than the artificer we're familiar with that's a chemist, a smith, etc.... they work more with components of the natural world (i.e. things like wood, horn, antlers, claws, fangs, skins, feathers, venom, etc...). Each artificer still has a focus, but they also learn about the other styles of crafting as well.

Anyway, was more writing it just becuase I kept thinking about it and wanted to get it on paper. Its pay what you want. If you like any of it, let me know. If something's broken, let me know.


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TBeholder
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Posted - 01 Nov 2021 :  21:10:09  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by sleyvas


It's a veering away from the concept that was originally presented in that Pluma is good and tied to Qotal and Hishna is bad and tied to Zaltec.

It was not "originally presented".

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch
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sleyvas
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Posted - 01 Nov 2021 :  22:37:42  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by TBeholder

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas


It's a veering away from the concept that was originally presented in that Pluma is good and tied to Qotal and Hishna is bad and tied to Zaltec.

It was not "originally presented".



Not following what you mean?

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TBeholder
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Posted - 03 Nov 2021 :  16:32:02  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by sleyvas

Not following what you mean?

Exactly this: in relevant parts of Maztica book, there's nothing like "durr, Pluma good, Hishna bad".
Tied to the gods, yes.
For artisans, it's implied that each attracts certain types, but no more than this... at least at first. In the long run, it drives them to serving these gods, as such has effect on alignment, sure. But that's a long path.
Eagle Knights and Jaguar Knights are also practitioners... but both serve their city via their order's lodge, first and foremost. It says explicitly that Jaguar Knights don't have to be followers of Zaltec (p.60).

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
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sleyvas
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Posted - 04 Nov 2021 :  00:16:16  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by TBeholder

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Not following what you mean?

Exactly this: in relevant parts of Maztica book, there's nothing like "durr, Pluma good, Hishna bad".
Tied to the gods, yes.
For artisans, it's implied that each attracts certain types, but no more than this... at least at first. In the long run, it drives them to serving these gods, as such has effect on alignment, sure. But that's a long path.
Eagle Knights and Jaguar Knights are also practitioners... but both serve their city via their order's lodge, first and foremost. It says explicitly that Jaguar Knights don't have to be followers of Zaltec (p.60).



Gotcha, but your examples prove my point to a degree. They were tied to gods, and the two gods were very different, and you weren't presented any evil folks using pluma or any good folks using hishna, but obviously they don't need to be good or evil. We're just talking semantics at this point.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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