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Alrunes Sinethal
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  14:01:49  Show Profile  Visit Alrunes Sinethal's Homepage Send Alrunes Sinethal a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I just picked up the expanded psionic book, and I'm a little confused about the magic-psionic interaction in Faerun.

In PGtoF it states that "psionics and magic are not transparent to each other; they interact exactly as magic interact with other magic." This sounds oxymoronic to me because I thought Psionic-magic transparency (XPH, p55) means
1. Spells/SP-abilities affects psionics and vice versa
i. Detect Magic, Dispel Magic, Antimagic, Dead Magic works on Psionic. (This means
that Psionics is a form of magical effect, but is powered differently)
2. Spell Resistance = Power Resistance

Am I to take it that in Faerun,
1. SR does not resist psionics
2. Psionics is still a magic effect, hence dispel magic etc works. Does this means that Dispel Psionic works on magic?
3. This is the biggest problem I have - psionic-magic is not transparent, but they interact. So does say Mind Blank prevent psionic from influencing their mind?

If you answer yes to both 2 and 3. Doesn't it sound like psionic and magic is transparent in Faerun? Further, PGtoF states that psioncis is magical, won't that make SR effective against psionic?

Someone tell me its a typo, or tell me how two independent "magic" systems that aren't transparent can still interact. Because according to XPH p 65, if psionic is different (which I understand as not transparent) then there shouldn't be any interaction between the two "magic" systems.

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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  17:35:19  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll be able to answer more of your questions this afternoon, as I haven't acquired that book yet...

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Arivia
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 :  18:41:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alrunes Sinethal

I just picked up the expanded psionic book, and I'm a little confused about the magic-psionic interaction in Faerun.

In PGtoF it states that "psionics and magic are not transparent to each other; they interact exactly as magic interact with other magic." This sounds oxymoronic to me because I thought Psionic-magic transparency (XPH, p55) means
1. Spells/SP-abilities affects psionics and vice versa
i. Detect Magic, Dispel Magic, Antimagic, Dead Magic works on Psionic. (This means
that Psionics is a form of magical effect, but is powered differently)
2. Spell Resistance = Power Resistance

Am I to take it that in Faerun,
1. SR does not resist psionics
2. Psionics is still a magic effect, hence dispel magic etc works. Does this means that Dispel Psionic works on magic?
3. This is the biggest problem I have - psionic-magic is not transparent, but they interact. So does say Mind Blank prevent psionic from influencing their mind?

If you answer yes to both 2 and 3. Doesn't it sound like psionic and magic is transparent in Faerun? Further, PGtoF states that psioncis is magical, won't that make SR effective against psionic?

Someone tell me its a typo, or tell me how two independent "magic" systems that aren't transparent can still interact. Because according to XPH p 65, if psionic is different (which I understand as not transparent) then there shouldn't be any interaction between the two "magic" systems.



It's a typo. That section's odd. There are enough hints in some of the organization and site entries to indicate that it was written with the Expanded Psionics Handbook(the soulknife and wilder as normal classes being two), but they tried to (to borrow a term) backport it to the Psionics Handbook. And it didn't go so well. If that last line wasn't a typo, it would not only contradict the lines before it, but additionally the FRCS(although that would be no surprise).
So, essentially...
  1. SR=PR
  2. detect magic=detect psionics and such.
  3. Magic and psionics fully interact-an arcane mind blank works against psionics and such.

Edited by - Arivia on 25 Apr 2004 18:54:45
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