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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 07 Apr 2005 : 16:52:13
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Originally posted by khorne
It would still be a bit of a hassle for Shar if Ibranduls followers started crucifying every sharworshipper they got their hands on, wouldn`t it?
No, because Shar's worshippers have a goddess on their side. Thus, they've got the advantage. If Ibrandul's worshippers broke with the Sharran clergy, they'd essentially be powerless. |
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elven_songstress
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 : 23:31:04
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| Yeah but in the hassle that follows Besheba would be laughing and Mask would likely try to steal himself some worshippers. *loL* |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 : 09:09:32
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| Okay, Ibranduls followers go over to a god that hates Shar and THEN go on a crusade against them. Does that sound plausible? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 : 11:23:59
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Originally posted by khorne
Okay, Ibranduls followers go over to a god that hates Shar and THEN go on a crusade against them. Does that sound plausible?
They could do that, but it would still be a handful of people versus a horde. Not much for Shar or her worshippers to worry about. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 : 15:23:54
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
They could do that, but it would still be a handful of people versus a horde. Not much for Shar or her worshippers to worry about.
And which God are Ibrandul's followers going to join to conduct this crusade against Shar? Are they going to go to a God with a radically different dogma just to gain revenge? |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 : 16:52:35
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
They could do that, but it would still be a handful of people versus a horde. Not much for Shar or her worshippers to worry about.
And which God are Ibrandul's followers going to join to conduct this crusade against Shar? Are they going to go to a God with a radically different dogma just to gain revenge?
There are hundreds of gods in FR. They are bound to run into someone.
Ps. This is the realms, and everything is possible here. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 : 17:41:46
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Originally posted by khorne
There are hundreds of gods in FR. They are bound to run into someone.
Ps. This is the realms, and everything is possible here.
But, I'm asking you, which clery would take a group of new followers who's sole reason to worship is to gain revenge against Shar? Selune comes to mind, but do her dogmas and Ibrandul's dogma actually match? |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 : 19:32:47
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| That might not be their sole reason to worship but......ugh, I`m getting a headache from all of this. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Apr 2005 : 21:36:10
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Originally posted by khorne
That might not be their sole reason to worship but......ugh, I`m getting a headache from all of this.
If you feel better, I was going to ask you to describe a situation with a certain clery that you could see Ibrandul's followers going to. I'd be curious to hear you elaborate on your idea. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 05:04:31
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| When I think of Shar's clergy for some reason I'm always reminded of a certain Temptation of Elminster scene. :) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 05:09:28
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Originally posted by SirUrza
When I think of Shar's clergy for some reason I'm always reminded of a certain Temptation of Elminster scene. :)
For those of us who haven't read the novel...care to elaborate a bit on the scene? |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 05:13:29
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For those of us who haven't read the novel...care to elaborate a bit on the scene?
I don't think I could do Ed justice. :) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 05:17:49
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I don't think I could do Ed justice. :)
Ah, understood. Is this a scene that would definitely be PG-13 rated? |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 16:09:06
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Yeap. On the alter.  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 16:11:03
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Yeap. On the alter.
Well, always nice to see fervent worship. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 16:43:32
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| Lol. You could call it that. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 16:48:03
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Not wishing to be a nit-picker I'll still make an attempt at it... Wasn't that particular altar more to do with Bane than Shar? (or maybe we're just thinking of different scenes ) |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 19:18:04
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| Kajehase, there's a shrine of Bane scene which happened earlier in the novel when Mystra was testing Elminster. Then there's a altar of Shar scene which happens near the end of the novel when the Sharrans decide to steal magic and kill as many of Mystra's worshipers as possible. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 20:23:09
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Ah, I stand corrected, or well, sort of at least, since I was thinking of the first one Anyway, just goes to show I shouldn't nit-pick when I can't be bothered to walk the two steps it would take me to reach a spot where I can pull down the book and check my facts first |
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Mareka
Learned Scribe
Canada
125 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2005 : 21:34:13
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
They could do that, but it would still be a handful of people versus a horde. Not much for Shar or her worshippers to worry about.
And which God are Ibrandul's followers going to join to conduct this crusade against Shar? Are they going to go to a God with a radically different dogma just to gain revenge?
There are hundreds of gods in FR. They are bound to run into someone.
Ps. This is the realms, and everything is possible here.
What about a deity of vengeance? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36804 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2005 : 23:40:32
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Originally posted by Mareka
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
They could do that, but it would still be a handful of people versus a horde. Not much for Shar or her worshippers to worry about.
And which God are Ibrandul's followers going to join to conduct this crusade against Shar? Are they going to go to a God with a radically different dogma just to gain revenge?
There are hundreds of gods in FR. They are bound to run into someone.
Ps. This is the realms, and everything is possible here.
What about a deity of vengeance?
I think that Hoar would leave that one alone... The proper vengeance would be the death of Shar, since she killed Ibrandul. And that's something beyond Hoar and a whole lot of other deities. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 07:49:49
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| But if a whole lot of other deities banded together? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 11:25:57
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Originally posted by khorne
But if a whole lot of other deities banded together?
What would this whole lot of deities hope to gain? If it was a whole lot, then you're talking war in the heavens... I don't think anyone is going to start that over the death of a minor godling. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 14:00:14
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| Well of course they wouldn`t start a war just because of Ibrandul, but it could be an excuse. After all, aren`t there a lot of deities who really don`t like Shar? |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 17:12:26
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Originally posted by khorne
Well of course they wouldn`t start a war just because of Ibrandul, but it could be an excuse. After all, aren`t there a lot of deities who really don`t like Shar?
Yes, but what now would suddenly make them band together to combat her? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 17:34:44
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Originally posted by khorne
Well of course they wouldn`t start a war just because of Ibrandul, but it could be an excuse. After all, aren`t there a lot of deities who really don`t like Shar?
Cyric isn't overly popular, either, and he's done a lot more to irk his fellow deities than Shar has. And yet, there's not yet been a holy smackdown attempted against him, at least not in terms of war. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 18:57:26
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| Well, they did try to strip him of his godhood in court........which amounts to the same thing as war. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 19:38:42
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Well, they did try to strip him of his godhood in court........which amounts to the same thing as war.
So, to take your statement to its logical conclusion, you consider the impeachment of Bill Clinton to have been the same thing as the American Civil War? |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 20:09:08
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Originally posted by Kajehase
So, to take your statement to its logical conclusion, you consider the impeachment of Bill Clinton to have been the same thing as the American Civil War?
Well, the aforementioned individual does think of himself as a God. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 12 Apr 2005 : 23:16:57
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Kajehase
So, to take your statement to its logical conclusion, you consider the impeachment of Bill Clinton to have been the same thing as the American Civil War?
Well, the aforementioned individual does think of himself as a God.
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