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Lucius
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 Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 11:45:46
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Mainly I remember these from Baldur's Gate, but I'm aware they were also in 2nd Edition Realms. I bought the Realms campaign setting last week, and for some odd reason, they're nowhere to be seen. Why is this? Are they no more, or too small an organisation to be featured? Perhaps they will feature in an upcoming supplement? I think a "The North" book would be fantastic.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 11:49:24
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Apr 2005 : 15:20:48
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Originally posted by Lucius
Mainly I remember these from Baldur's Gate, but I'm aware they were also in 2nd Edition Realms.
Yes, the most detailed write up I've seen of the organization came in the 2e supplement, Cloak & Dagger. That tome has about 8 or 9 pages devoted to this group. |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 08:48:20
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Originally posted by Lucius
Mainly I remember these from Baldur's Gate, but I'm aware they were also in 2nd Edition Realms. I bought the Realms campaign setting last week, and for some odd reason, they're nowhere to be seen. Why is this? Are they no more, or too small an organisation to be featured? Perhaps they will feature in an upcoming supplement? I think a "The North" book would be fantastic.
Unfortunately WotC seems to be refusing to publish 'region supplements'. TSR did a far more better job on that. The upcoming book of Waterdeep seems to be an exception to this rule, although I doubt it will be as good as the 2nd edition stuff about the City of Splendors |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 11:31:12
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
Unfortunately WotC seems to be refusing to publish 'region supplements'. TSR did a far more better job on that. The upcoming book of Waterdeep seems to be an exception to this rule, although I doubt it will be as good as the 2nd edition stuff about the City of Splendors
Really? Then what were Unapproachable East, Shining South, Underdark, and Silver Marches? |
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 12:20:25
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
Unfortunately WotC seems to be refusing to publish 'region supplements'. TSR did a far more better job on that. The upcoming book of Waterdeep seems to be an exception to this rule, although I doubt it will be as good as the 2nd edition stuff about the City of Splendors
Really? Then what were Unapproachable East, Shining South, Underdark, and Silver Marches?
Books full of spells, PrC's and feats. They hardly provide you with a desent amount of lore, rumors and interesting plot hooks...at least not compared to 2nd edition boxes. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 12:46:07
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
The upcoming book of Waterdeep seems to be an exception to this rule, although I doubt it will be as good as the 2nd edition stuff about the City of Splendors
You might be pleasantly suprised.
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Rudar Dimble
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 13:27:57
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Originally posted by George Krashos
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
The upcoming book of Waterdeep seems to be an exception to this rule, although I doubt it will be as good as the 2nd edition stuff about the City of Splendors
You might be pleasantly suprised.
-- George Krashos
I'd like to see that first. So far WotC haven't realy surprised me very pleasantly  .
BTW: I'm not saying things like: "WotC s**ks. Everything was better when TSR still had the rights." The 3rd edition is a great advancement in role-playing. I just think the supplements TSR published were far better than the things WotC is trying to sell. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 13:36:21
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Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Really? Then what were Unapproachable East, Shining South, Underdark, and Silver Marches?
Books full of spells, PrC's and feats. They hardly provide you with a desent amount of lore, rumors and interesting plot hooks...at least not compared to 2nd edition boxes.
I understand the frustration at seeing tomes filled with spells, feats, and PrCs that could instead have pages of lore, history, and background. But, if Lost Empires of Faerun is any indication, WOTC might have found the right balance of producing a gaming supplement that appeals to passionate FR fans and yet still is appealing to the non-FR DM.
That fact is why I remain optimistic about the Waterdeep gaming product coming out in a few short months. I don't envy the author. The City of Splendors is my, and many others, favorite city. If the gaming product isn't exactly perfect, I'm sure the author will be burned in effigy on these and other message boards. If the tome is wonderful, I'm sure some scribes will simply say, "Well, he had all that material from previous editions to draw from." |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 16:51:55
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I understand the frustration at seeing tomes filled with spells, feats, and PrCs that could instead have pages of lore, history, and background. But, if Lost Empires of Faerun is any indication, WOTC might have found the right balance of producing a gaming supplement that appeals to passionate FR fans and yet still is appealing to the non-FR DM.
That fact is why I remain optimistic about the Waterdeep gaming product coming out in a few short months. I don't envy the author. The City of Splendors is my, and many others, favorite city. If the gaming product isn't exactly perfect, I'm sure the author will be burned in effigy on these and other message boards. If the tome is wonderful, I'm sure some scribes will simply say, "Well, he had all that material from previous editions to draw from."
Hey wait, I've already said some of that last comment..... Whistles innocently and walks away.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 17:00:06
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Hey wait, I've already said some of that last comment.....
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