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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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 Posted - 05 Apr 2004 : 13:43:28
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It's discussions like this that remind me of my research into the Yamato cultural concept of Ku. Traditionally, Ku translates as nothingness, though it might be described as negative space that defines positive space. For example, a vase is a shape of clay with an opening in the middle: clay surrounding space. It is the empty space that defines the vase, which otherwise would be only a shape of clay.
As for Faerunian philosophers, the only one the springs to mind at the moment (since I'm away from my books) is the Sage of Deepingdale, Rhauntides. His researches into the nature of the Weave, and it's overall affect on the physical body is one of his many particular areas of study.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Apr 2004 : 16:16:43
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Cardinal, I'm talking about the space that is in the physical world -- as Sage said, negative space. I'm pretty sure he believes in positive space, which is why his idea is so confusing. 
Sage, where is Rhauntides (sounds like a Greek name  ) in a source book? I'd like to look him up. |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 05 Apr 2004 : 19:45:58
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OOOOOHHHHH! Now that can be measured. You simply take the total weight of the clay jar and subtract the actual weight of said jar (when said jar lacks the 'space' in the centre) and vola! You now have the weight of space the space... I do like this way...
But back to this space thing and illusions, is he saying the the five mile 'Space' between the Twin Towers of the Eternal Eclipse isn't there at all? (<-Example) That Ku is pretty hard to argue against since a Jar can hold contain something, without a space to contain anything it's naught but a large paperweight... unless one says it is holding containing baked clay... Is he saying said space does not exist though?... Well basically it doesn't but that's not the point (currently)? Hmmm (all this could be very useful in disproving that Toril is round/spherical)
ALSO! This Rhauntides of Deepingdale... He deals mainly with the weave? Do you know if he has any other areas of thought? (We feel generous so We'll wait until you can get back to your books on this one though) |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Apr 2004 : 20:53:55
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| You got it there. At least, that's how I translate it. I think you're trying to get back at me for "confusing" you earlier. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 Apr 2004 : 21:09:49
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Rhauntides is described in the FRCS, under the Deepingdale entry, located on pages 128-129.
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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 : 04:24:06
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That's right Shadowlord, but that entry contains only brief details (and consequently was not the entry I was thinking about). He's described in at least two other tomes - one being in the ol' greybox, and the other is a tome currently being used by the Lady Kazandra. I'll get her to track the reference down to better answer your questions.
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