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Shadowlord
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  07:27:20  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*Ahem*
Lolth worshiping drow want to eradicate the surface elves, in revenge on Araushnee's Banishment at the hands of Corellon.

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  08:16:13  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

*Ahem*
Lolth worshiping drow want to eradicate the surface elves, in revenge on Araushnee's Banishment at the hands of Corellon.



This is indeed true... But not all drow worship Lolth (though she would have you think otherwise). Vhaeraun worshippers would have no problem with like-minded elves... And Eilistraee's followers wouldn't be out to eradicate anyone...

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  08:34:06  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You think I don't know this? I myself follow The Masked Lord of Shadow... Just ask around...

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Richtin
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  19:49:31  Show Profile  Visit Richtin's Homepage Send Richtin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whois the the most influincing drow diety???

"Where in the Nine Hells did you ever get the notion that I would fight fair?"
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Arivia
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  20:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the Upper Underdark, definitely Lolth. Depending upon what you do with the lower reaches, it may be Ghaunadar, instead of Lolth. Aboveground, now, it would be Vhaeraun. Selvetarm is practically considered Lolth for this, and Eilistraee is moving a bit slower. And as far as my campaigns are considered, Kiaransalee is recovering her strength, after losses in Maerimydra and Thanatos.
All of us scribes who run decisively..different campaigns should really post our ideas...

Edited by - Arivia on 03 Apr 2004 20:26:20
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  20:47:53  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose I could post my ideas sometimes, Arivia. However, you have to promise to take Celine back to Canada...

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Arivia
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  22:28:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

I suppose I could post my ideas sometimes, Arivia. However, you have to promise to take Celine back to Canada...



I guess the tradeoff is worth it...
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 :  23:35:40  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed it is...

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Richtin
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Posted - 04 Apr 2004 :  01:48:39  Show Profile  Visit Richtin's Homepage Send Richtin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where are the majority of the drow located??

"Where in the Nine Hells did you ever get the notion that I would fight fair?"
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Apr 2004 :  02:10:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richtin

Where are the majority of the drow located??



Short answer: in the Underdark.

Longer answer: The drow do not dominate any one geographical region. They have city-states scattered all over the place, but rarely control much past a day or two's travel outside their city.

Most of the races of the Underdark are like that. The Underdark isn't like the surface world, where everything is relatively flat and easy to move across. In the Underdark, you've got caverns and tunnels. Two cities may be a handful of miles away from each other, but it could still require days to actually travel that distance, because of the way the tunnels are laid out, and because the cities may not even be on the same rough level -- one might be two miles deeper than the other, for example.

That's why there's a lot of indepedent cities, but not very many nations, in the Underdark.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 04 Apr 2004 :  06:20:08  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richtin

Whois the the most influincing drow diety???



Depends on what you mean......

Overall: Lolth

On the Surface: Vhaeraun

On Fashion or lack there of: Eilistraee

On Causing many DM's headaches with players that want to play a clone version of him: OSA Drizzt, wait, he isn't a deity....not yet at least.
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Arivia
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Posted - 04 Apr 2004 :  07:26:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
On Causing many DM's headaches with players that want to play a clone version of him: OSA Drizzt, wait, he isn't a deity....not yet at least.



Pure gold, Sirius...

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The drow do not dominate any one geographical region. They have city-states scattered all over the place, but rarely control much past a day or two's travel outside their city.



Don't forget about trading runs to Sshamath or the now defunct Ched Nasad...
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Richtin
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  03:49:16  Show Profile  Visit Richtin's Homepage Send Richtin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
??????is it possible for drizzt to become a deity????????????
i know alot of people who call him "drizzit". is that how it is pernounced???

"Where in the Nine Hells did you ever get the notion that I would fight fair?"
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  04:01:54  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richtin

??????is it possible for drizzt to become a deity????????????
i know alot of people who call him "drizzit". is that how it is pernounced???



Only time will tell on the deity thing. No idea on the proper way of pronouncing his name. If someone else can't help you out, you can check out the author's web page. He has a forum there where I'm sure the very topic has come up.
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Arivia
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  04:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richtin

??????is it possible for drizzt to become a deity????????????
i know alot of people who call him "drizzit". is that how it is pernounced???



I'll leave you to pull yourself out of the hole you dug yourself, Sirius...
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  04:25:44  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia
I'll leave you to pull yourself out of the hole you dug yourself, Sirius...



LOL! What hole? According to online "fans" of OSA Drizzt, the novel this year will conclude with:

1. Drizzt becoming a God
2. Drizzt becoming a chosen of some God.
3. Drizzt dying.
4. Drizzt retiring
5. Drizzt deciding to open up an all night diner in Waterdeep.

Okay, the last one was my creation. But, seriously, all the others I've heard speculated/predicted/pondered, etc. Thus, anything is possible. Although I'll go out on a limb right now and say OSA Drizzt will not open up a diner.
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Richtin
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  19:01:33  Show Profile  Visit Richtin's Homepage Send Richtin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What does drizzt have to do to become a god???

"Where in the Nine Hells did you ever get the notion that I would fight fair?"
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  20:12:43  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richtin

What does drizzt have to do to become a god???



Just have a willing author who wishes to write such a story. It worked for Midnight and company didn't it?
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Richtin
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  23:40:57  Show Profile  Visit Richtin's Homepage Send Richtin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Richtin

What does drizzt have to do to become a god???



Just have a willing author who wishes to write such a story. It worked for Midnight and company didn't it?



What book series is that???

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Kuje
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Posted - 07 Apr 2004 :  01:04:10  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richtin
What book series is that???



Shadowdale by Richard Awlinson
Tantras by Richard Awlinson
Waterdeep by Richard Awlinson
Prince of Lies by James Lowder
Crucible - The Trial of Cyric the Mad by Troy Denning

Ah, the author on the first three is pen name and I forgot who the original authors are. Some one will hopefully post the info, since I'm old school and have the original novels. :)

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Edited by - Kuje on 07 Apr 2004 01:05:21
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 07 Apr 2004 :  01:47:33  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Scott Ciencin wrote the first two, if I remember correctly, and Waterdeep was written by Troy Denning (Destroyer of Worlds! ).

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 07 Apr 2004 :  06:45:33  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Scott Ciencin wrote the first two, if I remember correctly, and Waterdeep was written by Troy Denning (Destroyer of Worlds! ).



Don't exaggerate my fine follower of Vhaeraun. Mr. Denning merely destroys cities and/or kings, not entire worlds.

Was he the one that killed Chewbacca too? Or was that the creator of Drizzt?
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Arivia
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Posted - 07 Apr 2004 :  06:53:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope, that was the creator of OSA Drizzt.

Quite a few FR authors did some interesting things to the Star Wars timeline...
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Kuje
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Posted - 07 Apr 2004 :  07:55:36  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Don't exaggerate my fine follower of Vhaeraun. Mr. Denning merely destroys cities and/or kings, not entire worlds.


Give him time and let him write a few more FR books and I'm sure he'd manage to finish off the rest of Faerun. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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aragorn II
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Posted - 22 Apr 2004 :  19:33:07  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Let's all get back on track, people. Now for another question: is there actually a Drow city called Ust Natha with a silver dragon lair nearby?

There can be only one.
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 24 Apr 2004 :  06:27:58  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As far as I am aware, the drow city of Ust Natha, was simply a creation for the CRPG Baldur's Gate. It is not detailed in any of the various tomes on the Underdark from either edition.

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Richtin
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Posted - 22 May 2004 :  09:10:31  Show Profile  Visit Richtin's Homepage Send Richtin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
so its not cannon. is it??

"Where in the Nine Hells did you ever get the notion that I would fight fair?"
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 22 May 2004 :  14:44:17  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richtin

so its not cannon. is it??




How can anything in a video game ever be cannon?
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aragorn II
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Posted - 27 May 2004 :  19:28:40  Show Profile  Visit aragorn II's Homepage Send aragorn II a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, PoR is canon.

There can be only one.
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Arivia
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Posted - 27 May 2004 :  22:10:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sirius was joking-it's sort of a long-standing joke around here.
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