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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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 Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 16:00:04
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Most odd! Its been two weeks now since there were any new articles over on the official FR site at WotC  It should be every Wednesday, anyone know anything?
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Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 16:22:50
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| Apparently Web Developers computer broke down last Wednesday which is why we didnt get anything last week |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 16:27:39
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| Sorry my intromission, but... ehhh... What does FR and WotC stands by? Sorry mi ignorance, but as i said sometimes, here in spain any Realms info is really... difficult to find, and my only experience with DnD is BG Saga. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 16:37:00
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FR = Forgotten Realms
WOTC= Wizards of the coast |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 16:39:38
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Originally posted by Gion
Sorry my intromission, but... ehhh... What does FR and WotC stands by? Sorry mi ignorance, but as i said sometimes, here in spain any Realms info is really... difficult to find, and my only experience with DnD is BG Saga.
FR = Forgotten Realms
WotC = Wizards of the Coast (the guys who bring us the game, and who took over from the late TSR) |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 16:39:39
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Originally posted by Dargoth
FR = Forgotten Realms
WOTC= Wizards of the coast
Obvius.
 sometimes i'm a piece of kobold |
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"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
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Edited by - Thelonius on 02 Jun 2004 16:41:51 |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 17:03:55
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Apparently Web Developers computer broke down last Wednesday which is why we didnt get anything last week
Wait a minute. The 50 most recent updates shows plenty of other sections getting updates after Wednesday of last week. What was the problem? A virus that affected only FR files?  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 17:08:27
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
Most odd! Its been two weeks now since there were any new articles over on the official FR site at WotC It should be every Wednesday, anyone know anything?
I hear Eberron hackers hit the FR computers sometime late last month. I suppose such an attack was inevitable. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 17:09:29
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Originally posted by Gion
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Originally posted by Dargoth
FR = Forgotten Realms
WOTC= Wizards of the coast
Obvius.
sometimes i'm a piece of kobold
Hmmm, it seems that Dargoth beat me to the punch on answering...
Don't sweat it, Gion. Sometime I get stumped by acronyms, too.  |
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 17:14:27
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Since the ending of the Wyrms of the North update series, there are really only two regular Realms articles on the WotC site: Magic Books of Faerűn from Sean K Reynolds and Realmslore by Ed Greenwood.
Sean's articles are intentionally monthly, and appear a few days after the middle of the month. At or around the 20th is a good time to expect them.
Ed's articles are supposed to be out approximately every two weeks, with other concerns pushing things forward or back up to a week or more (there was a period of about a month that had them coming out every week). I'd expect to see a Realmslore article up by week's end, or next Wednesday at the latest. |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 17:14:35
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I hear Eberron hackers hit the FR computers sometime late last month. I suppose such an attack was inevitable.
Eberron hackers? i've never heard 'bout them What or who are they, and why should they attack the site? |
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
Sapientia sola libertas est |
Edited by - Thelonius on 02 Jun 2004 17:15:19 |
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
508 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 17:48:00
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Originally posted by Gion
Eberron hackers? i've never heard 'bout them What or who are they, and why should they attack the site?
Eberron is the new campaign setting WotC is developing - one that is constantly ending up pushing FR into the background in various places (sourcebooks, the website, Dragon articles etc.).
I'm still trying to work out if you were being ironic or not, Sirius! Not even a smiley face to tell me?  I'm guessing you were joking... but you never know  .
Back to topic. I too am starting to get annoyed at the lack of updates in the FR section. I was prepared to live off of Monster Mayhem and Fey Feature for a couple of weeks, but I'm just seeing constant Miniature and Rules of the Game updates is starting to get depressing.
If they're going to cut out Realms articles like Portals and WotN, they should at least provide backup. And Ed and Sean are busy people - they can't be asked to keep it going on their own. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 17:51:09
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Sure seems like the Realms is taking a battering lately  
WotC are going to shoot themselves in the foot by angering FR fans. They will turn any of those FR fans who were going to buy Eberron against buying it for fear of FR loosing out.
So cross that Eberron tome off your list, Sage We'll show 'em!
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"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 17:59:42
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
Sure seems like the Realms is taking a battering lately
WotC are going to shoot themselves in the foot by angering FR fans. They will turn any of those FR fans who were going to buy Eberron against buying it for fear of FR loosing out.
So cross that Eberron tome off your list, Sage We'll show 'em!
I definitely think FR is taking a backseat to Eberron on many levels. But, Eberron is going to save D&D, so I guess we should be grateful for that and not mind the lack of FR updates. |
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 18:25:27
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 19:04:46
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| I've heard from a reliable source (no I'm not going to post who it is) that if Eberron does as well as WOTC hopes then FR will no longer be supported or it will be phased out. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 19:52:08
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Originally posted by kuje31
I've heard from a reliable source (no I'm not going to post who it is) that if Eberron does as well as WOTC hopes then FR will no longer be supported or it will be phased out.
Man, I hope that's not true... Dropping one of their best cash cows would be a huge mistake... |
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Chittlin
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 19:53:17
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Ugh! Kuje31 I sure hope your reliable source is wrong. Else the scribes here will have to take a hand in keeping things alive.
Hehe, might not be a bad idea after all ... Mmmm, what I would do to the Realms if there were no more Wizards of the Coast support. 
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:11:39
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
I really wasn't aware that D&D needed any saving at all...
Neither did I, but alas, that's a topic for another scroll. I'm just so grateful to be educated now of the importance the Eberron setting has for D&D as a whole. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:17:38
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Originally posted by kuje31
I've heard from a reliable source (no I'm not going to post who it is) that if Eberron does as well as WOTC hopes then FR will no longer be supported or it will be phased out.
Well Kuje, if you are going to seriously throw out a comment like that it would be polite to at least give a general frame of reference for your source. D20 publisher? Freelancer? WOTC employee? Heard it from my mom's sister's brother's cousin's friend who works with someone who knows a friend of a Realms writer? Not at all saying you have to, just a suggestion.
Now, all joking about Eberron hackers aside, and apologies to anyone if this is drifting off topic a bit....I can see something like this taking place.
I honestly have no faith in WOTC's continued support of FR as far as gaming releases. I think they are clearly banking on Eberron to be huge. And I think most likely that world will be immensely popular for a short period of time. By that I mean five years, maybe a bit more.
If this world does take off, I don't expect FR to disappear off the face of the Earth. However, I would not at all be surprised if it simply became a world that had novel releases only rather than any gaming products.
All of the above is simply my opinion. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:20:31
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I hope to the gods the source is wrong as well and it depressed me, and still does, when I heard that this person say WOTC hopes Eberron does as well as FR so they can market Eberron. Yes I am being vague because I don't know how much this person wanted this information spread in public and no I am not pulling this information out of my arse in case some one believes that since I won't name the source who said it.
It's a freelancer, but I guess if some one wanted to find out who said that to me they could email me, but PLEASE don't name the source in public because it might get them in deep .... |
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Edited by - Kuje on 02 Jun 2004 20:25:04 |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:20:53
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Originally posted by Chittlin
Ugh! Kuje31 I sure hope your reliable source is wrong. Else the scribes here will have to take a hand in keeping things alive.
Actually, isn't that already taking place a bit? Look at what some scribes are taking a part in around here and you can see fans are taking up projects that used to be addressed by designers.
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Hehe, might not be a bad idea after all ... Mmmm, what I would do to the Realms if there were no more Wizards of the Coast support.
Chittlin
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:23:08
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Originally posted by kuje31
I hope to the gods the source is wrong as well and it depressed me, and still does, when I heard that this person say WOTC hopes Eberron does as well as FR so they can market Eberron.
Well that statement is a bit less severe than saying that FR might be phased out or support for it vanish. Can you tell us what exactly your source stated?
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:28:09
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Well that statement is a bit less severe than saying that FR might be phased out or support for it vanish. Can you tell us what exactly your source stated?
The source said what I said in my original post. WOTC want's to market Eberron, movie rights, game rights, etc, and if it does as well as FR then FR will be phased out. |
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BobROE
Learned Scribe
Canada
106 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:31:59
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Well that statement is a bit less severe than saying that FR might be phased out or support for it vanish. Can you tell us what exactly your source stated?
The source said what I said in my original post. WOTC want's to market Eberron, movie rights, game rights, etc, and if it does as well as FR then FR will be phased out.
Or at least left as a novel only World. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:35:15
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Originally posted by BobROE
Or at least left as a novel only World.
Agreed. :) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:46:48
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Originally posted by kuje31
The source said what I said in my original post. WOTC want's to market Eberron, movie rights, game rights, etc, and if it does as well as FR then FR will be phased out.
Movie rights? Dear Cyric. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:48:02
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Originally posted by BobROE
Or at least left as a novel only World.
That sounds familiar.  |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 20:57:08
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| The editorial in the anniversary issue of Dragon mentions that WOTC and the gaming industry have to adapt to the new environment, and that Eberron would be the "savior" of the RPG industry. At least that's my take on it. |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 21:05:31
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Now, now, scribes. No need to panic, even if the rumor appeared to be true. It wouldn't mean the end of the world (Toril) as we know it... it'll just become more and more reliant on fan-based material.
The same thing happend to another crystal sphere - and it is still around: Oerth (Greyhawk). Even Ravenloft is continueing in a new incarnation (and yes supported by a company).
Why would things for FR be any different? It has a huge fan-base (potentially bigger than Greyhawk?) and there is plenty of stuff being created around the globe that is not 'official WotC' but still very good and useable Realms Lore. Some of those examples can be found within the halls of this keep. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 21:44:32
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Originally posted by hammer of Moradin
The editorial in the anniversary issue of Dragon mentions that WOTC and the gaming industry have to adapt to the new environment, and that Eberron would be the "savior" of the RPG industry. At least that's my take on it.
You're not alone on that take. The editorial was very....entertaining, thought not in the way perhaps the author intended it to be. |
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