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Arivia
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 Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 22:10:27
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Originally posted by kuje31
The source said what I said in my original post. WOTC want's to market Eberron, movie rights, game rights, etc, and if it does as well as FR then FR will be phased out.
If that happens, I wouldn't be surprised if Candlekeep becomes the Forgotten Realms' version of Athas.org-simply because we do seem to be filling the support position quite adequately(to say nothing of the Great Sage's presence and such...). As I've said before, that might not be a bad thing-getting the world out of Wizards' hands may be its salvation. |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 23:04:22
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If that happens, I wouldn't be surprised if Candlekeep becomes the Forgotten Realms' version of Athas.org-simply because we do seem to be filling the support position quite adequately(to say nothing of the Great Sage's presence and such...). As I've said before, that might not be a bad thing-getting the world out of Wizards' hands may be its salvation.
Unfortunately I don't see WOTC giving up their FR's novels, even if they scale down on the role-playing supplements. I don't see anyone making products for the Realms if they don't control the rights to the novels. Same with the computer and console games. |
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Tethtoril
Seeker
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 23:36:21
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::pops head in and looks about::
Let's not focus on panicky ethereal possibilities else the scrolls might get torn in the ensuing rush. The Lore is here for now and is slotted for a few more years at least. May the Heavens forbid the unthinkable, but we always have the security of the walls of Candlekeep.
Now what was that discussion about? Oh yes, the updates by the Wizards on the Coast ...  |
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Sarelle
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 23:42:57
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Well I don't think we should all run screaming just yet.
I have no doubt about kuje's source - it shocked me so much that it was you whose source it was, kuje. I trust that the prediction might even me accurate.
But wait until they do try to start phasing things out. That's when the support for FR will show them. A lot of FR designers have a special place for the Realms. Admittedly, a few that have been pushed out, but we still have Gwendoleyn Kestrel and Bruce Cordell, as well as Rich Baker (though I wouldn't count on him, no offence intended).
And I don't doubt that WotC would receive considreable resistance from Ed Greenwood and the authors. But where they would meet the most opposition would be us - the fans. They might be crunch-lovers but Realms followers are still extremely numerous (thanks, in part, to the success of novels and computer games).
So, I don't think they will be killing FR off just yet. And however well Eberron does, just wait. The campaign setting will fly off the shelves, but I doubt it will sustain beyond that.
Back on topic - does anyone know any other Wizards web regulars who solely do FR stuff?
EDIT: Tethtoril, you beat me to my post AND shortened it considerably! No fair! |
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Tethtoril
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Posted - 02 Jun 2004 : 23:48:17
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Originally posted by Sarelle
EDIT: Tethtoril, you beat me to my post AND shortened it considerably! No fair!
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Tethtoril
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Jun 2004 : 00:18:44
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Personally, I'd dismiss the rumor. The reality is that FR is a well-thought out "generic" fantasy setting. I don't mean generic in a bad sense, but in that it is similar enough to Tolkien's middle earth and countless other fantasy sources that it is not jarring for new players to play in it. A new player can make a character in Cormyr and feel that they understand the setting with far less reading necessary.
Eberron on the other hand, while it looks to be a fantastic setting, is quite a bit more alien and specialized. As far as movie rights and such it probably would be easier to secure them since it is so much less derivative and less likely to cause negative comparisons. Right now though, it seems to me that it will be taking up the same sort of market that Dark Sun did. A great, unique setting, but one that not all players will feel comfortable with.
Also, as many have said, FR novels are sellng quite well with many in the best sellers list and I doubt WotC would want to put the kaibosh on this.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Jun 2004 : 00:26:24
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| It's not a "rumor". As I said, it has come from a reliable source and if this person DOES NOT know what is going on with FR then no one would. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Jun 2004 : 01:49:45
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Originally posted by kuje31
It's not a "rumor". As I said, it has come from a reliable source and if this person DOES NOT know what is going on with FR then no one would.
Might be time to start a new thread on this topic if anyone wishes to discuss kuje31's information any further. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 03 Jun 2004 : 05:35:56
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Originally posted by kuje31
I've heard from a reliable source (no I'm not going to post who it is) that if Eberron does as well as WOTC hopes then FR will no longer be supported or it will be phased out.
C'mon everyone, it's not the end of the world - even if it does happen as Kuje suggests. I remember lamenting the same thing when TSR was being bought out by WotC and an employee of TSR noted, quite correctly, that I had a shelf full of gaming products and two shelves full of novels. If that wasn't enough to sustain me, then I was pretty hard to please!
Also, we've got at least two more years of FR products (some pretty damn good ones too) before we get canned - so all is not lost.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 03 Jun 2004 : 06:22:18
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Originally posted by George Krashos
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Originally posted by kuje31
I've heard from a reliable source (no I'm not going to post who it is) that if Eberron does as well as WOTC hopes then FR will no longer be supported or it will be phased out.
C'mon everyone, it's not the end of the world - even if it does happen as Kuje suggests. I remember lamenting the same thing when TSR was being bought out by WotC and an employee of TSR noted, quite correctly, that I had a shelf full of gaming products and two shelves full of novels. If that wasn't enough to sustain me, then I was pretty hard to please!
Also, we've got at least two more years of FR products (some pretty damn good ones too) before we get canned - so all is not lost.
-- George Krashos
Im guessing you dont check the FR chat forum very often.....
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Jun 2004 : 06:36:25
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I just know I'm not going to get excited over this until I hear something more definite. After all, WotC thought that publishing adventures would be marketable too until they saw the results of the sales of CotSQ.
With the campaign setting being a more specialized one and the book for it retailing at $39.99 US it will be interesting to see how well it sells.
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Tethtoril
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Posted - 03 Jun 2004 : 07:06:21
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::hefts staff of the irritated moderator +2:: 
This scroll is closed. There have been attempts to guide it back to topic, but they have failed. This particular forum is for WotC FR News and Releases. And though the recent discussion is an interesting one it is not based on news or releases.
::Shakes his head as he rolls the scroll closed and seals it in a container with lead.:: 
Mystra forgive me, I hate doing that. |
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