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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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 Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 11:40:44
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I think we can safely say that Mr. Greenwood has a definitive defense for sometimes missing what is right in front of him. Let us consider the amount time and energy he puts into creating Realmslore, and many other curious FR facts, and leave it at that shall we... 
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Narad Bladesinger
Learned Scribe
Finland
170 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 12:15:15
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Thanks Rad and others for clearing that one up. I've heard something about Lamruil, but all that I heard was that he is somewhere on the continent of Faerun (ooh! Could that be? )
I think we'll just have to wait. But gotta wonder where it'll turn up. Icewind Dale would be a good place bacause then Drizzt could save it with his new feats!
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 16:36:43
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Originally posted by Rad
Thanks for the corrections Shadowlord, I surprised that nobody corrected me previously, even Ed, when I kept harping on about the Tree of Life, instead of Souls!
Cut yourself some slack. The poor tree has been so neglected since the end of Elaine Cunningham's novel, I'm impressed you just got most of the words right.
Now, if in Richard Baker's upcoming novel, he makes a reference to it and calls it the Tree of Life, than you are in trouble for corrupting an author.  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 16:38:37
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Originally posted by Narad Bladesinger
I think we'll just have to wait. But gotta wonder where it'll turn up. Icewind Dale would be a good place bacause then Drizzt could save it with his new feats!
Yep, they probably are writing one up right now for him
Save New Elven Nation
You are such a cool force of power that you can save a new Elven nation never before seen in FR lore with just one journal entry. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 16:47:43
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Originally posted by Rad
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Rad, a minor edit, if you will. 'Tis called the "Tree of Souls." Refer to page 487 of Evermeet: Island of Elves, paperback edition. The Tree of Life came from Baldur's Gate II. And the name is "Prince Lamruil." Also refer to Evermeet: Island of Elves, same page.
 Ack, maybe i need to buy a second copy of the Elven Bible to keep at work
Thanks for the corrections Shadowlord, I'm surprised that nobody corrected me previously, even Ed, when I kept harping on about the Tree of Life, instead of Souls!
Aye, 'tis no trouble at all, Rad. I'm just keeping the facts straight.  |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Bruce Donohue
Learned Scribe
Canada
131 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2004 : 01:24:37
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This is form the Realms-L where when I asked Rich Baker on what the Last Mythal would concentrate around regarding content wise.
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"The Last Mythal tells the story of a sun elf wizard, Araevin Teshurr, as he confronts the plots of the daemonfey--Sarya Dlardrageth and her fey'ri. Sarya dreams of refounding the realm of Siluvanede in the Delimbiyr Vale, and exacting a very long overdue vengeance against the wood elves of the High Forest and the elves of Evereska. Worse yet, she's got her hands on the Gatekeeper's Crystal, a weapon that she can use to cause all sorts of trouble. To counter the daemonfey threat, Araevin investigates an ancient mystery embedded in a set of telkiira stones and finds himself in a race to find the loregems before the daemonfey do. Meanwhile, Evermeet struggles to send aid to Evereska and the wood elves, divided by a contentious debate as to the wisdom of fighting in Faerun so soon after sustaining terrible losses in Kymil Nimesin's attack on Evermeet and their expedition to aid Evereska against the phaerimm.
Old mysteries, High Magic, renegade mythals, ancient villains, epic battles--The Forsaken House has it all, and it's only the first book in the series. I'm pretty proud of it.Sort of. You don't see how exactly she gets the first 2/3rds--there's just a reference about where she found 'em. You do see her get the last 1/3rd.
Richard Baker
Senior Designer
Roleplaying R&D
Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2004 : 09:04:15
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::droooooooool:: 
This is even greater than id expected!! I knew it would be a good book due to the author, but it sure sounds like its gonna be fantastic! |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Narad Bladesinger
Learned Scribe
Finland
170 Posts |
Posted - 26 Mar 2004 : 16:52:37
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Wow! Now that goes straight to the must-have category
---Ching---
And there it goes.
Pretty much stuff in one book! More --> Better, right?
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Mage Jastra Eveningfall
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 02:22:43
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Two things:
One: High Magic remains on Evermeet and ALWAYS will. A piece of Arvandor, created by the greatest working of magic in Toril's history, blessesd by the Seldarine, is NOT going to lose the High Art. (Though the deaths of most of the High Magi could cramp the practice, Evermeet still will be a site for High Magic rituals). The Tree of Souls is merely a second chance for the Tel'Quessir. (So says Corellon).
Two: What are Star Elves? |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2004 : 02:32:11
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Originally posted by Mage Jastra Eveningfall
Two: What are Star Elves?
Star Elves are a new elven subrace that first appeared in Unapproachable East. Additionally, Elaine Cunningham's most recent FR novel contained a Star Elf character. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Mage Jastra Eveningfall
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 24 May 2004 : 23:24:20
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Yoshimo
Seeker
88 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 00:15:37
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I am a rabid fan of all elves, yet I have never heard of star elves. What other elves are there besides star elves, sun elves, drow elves, wood elves, and common elves? Are there any more? |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 00:17:55
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Originally posted by Yoshimo
I am a rabid fan of all elves, yet I have never heard of star elves. What other elves are there besides star elves, sun elves, drow elves, wood elves, and common elves? Are there any more?
Common elves? Do you mean moon elves?
Star elves are a new development. Do a search for the phrase and you'll find a couple of threads discussing them and their light bulbs. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 00:54:10
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Originally posted by Yoshimo
I am a rabid fan of all elves, yet I have never heard of star elves. What other elves are there besides star elves, sun elves, drow elves, wood elves, and common elves? Are there any more?
Ghost elves, they were written up in a Dragon a few issues back...... |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 01:04:09
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by Yoshimo
I am a rabid fan of all elves, yet I have never heard of star elves. What other elves are there besides star elves, sun elves, drow elves, wood elves, and common elves? Are there any more?
Ghost elves, they were written up in a Dragon a few issues back......
And what long-forgotten nook of the Realms did they crawl out of? |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 01:41:58
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Do a search for the phrase and you'll find a couple of threads discussing them and their light bulbs.
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The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 02:24:02
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Originally posted by Arivia
And what long-forgotten nook of the Realms did they crawl out of?
Guess I should have clarified that, they are not FR specific but he didn't really say it had to be FR specific elves. :) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 03:22:58
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Originally posted by Arivia
And what long-forgotten nook of the Realms did they crawl out of?
When Star Elves shine their light bulbs in the dead of night, voila, Selune reveals Ghost elves around us all along with handfuls of Prestige Classes for the nearest Realms fans. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 03:51:29
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Originally posted by Yoshimo
I am a rabid fan of all elves, yet I have never heard of star elves. What other elves are there besides star elves, sun elves, drow elves, wood elves, and common elves? Are there any more?
You forgot the sea elves...
And it's not specifically set in the Realms, but in the Night Below boxed set (I think it was that one), there was another race of elves called the Rockseer elves. As I recall, they fled underground rather than get involved in the war betwixt the drow and the elves, and have been hiding out down there ever since. I further seem to recall them having some nifty rock-based powers... |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 04:57:50
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Arivia
And what long-forgotten nook of the Realms did they crawl out of?
When Star Elves shine their light bulbs in the dead of night, voila, Selune reveals Ghost elves around us all along with handfuls of Prestige Classes for the nearest Realms fans.
Handfuls? I'd say bucketfuls, to say nothing of the feats... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 05:29:27
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Originally posted by Arivia
Handfuls? I'd say bucketfuls, to say nothing of the feats...
I shudder to ponder what ideas WOTC might have for new elven subraces when the Year of Risen Elfkin rolls around. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 05:35:55
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Arivia
Handfuls? I'd say bucketfuls, to say nothing of the feats...
I shudder to ponder what ideas WOTC might have for new elven subraces when the Year of Risen Elfkin rolls around.
Perhaps they'll be getting their ideas here... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 05:54:05
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Originally posted by Arivia
Perhaps they'll be getting their ideas here...
Hmmm, more new subraces making so many FR elven possibilities that it's almost like you are flipping through a deck of cards when creating an elven character. Nah, they'd never do that. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 06:02:54
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Arivia
Perhaps they'll be getting their ideas here...
Hmmm, more new subraces making so many FR elven possibilities that it's almost like you are flipping through a deck of cards when creating an elven character. Nah, they'd never do that.
I was actually referring to the Risen-Dead connection, but that works just as well... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 06:57:08
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At least they've not decided to somehow import particular elven races from other worlds...
WotC: "Oh, yeah, Athasian elves have ALWAYS lived in the Anauroch Desert, it's just that no one knew about it. Ditto for the Dimernesti and Dargonesti elves in the Sea of Fallen Stars." |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 16:36:46
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
At least they've not decided to somehow import particular elven races from other worlds...
WotC: "Oh, yeah, Athasian elves have ALWAYS lived in the Anauroch Desert, it's just that no one knew about it. Ditto for the Dimernesti and Dargonesti elves in the Sea of Fallen Stars."
Of course, have they done a 3.5e sourcebook yet for the Anauroch or Sea of Fallen Stars?
No? Well, then, give them time. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 16:37:57
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Originally posted by Arivia
I was actually referring to the Risen-Dead connection, but that works just as well...
Sorry, Mongo slow at times. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2004 : 16:57:12
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Arivia
And what long-forgotten nook of the Realms did they crawl out of?
When Star Elves shine their light bulbs in the dead of night, voila, Selune reveals Ghost elves around us all along with handfuls of Prestige Classes for the nearest Realms fans.
I can see it now... "Ghost Elf Avenger!"
Complete with Drizzt's Scimitar Shock and Awe Feats!
And new FR Ghost Elf Subrace Spell-like Abilities! |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 07 Jul 2005 : 09:10:12
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Originally posted by Narad Bladesinger
I'm seriously worried about elven population on Faerun.
Long time ago they freed Faerun from the tyranny of dragons and giants and now they are getting chased out from everywhere.
There have been attacks to Evereska and Evermeet, and many elven forests are cut down by humans.
Is there a safe place for elves?
And I heard that on the attack on Evermeet the High Magic of elves was lost.
Is this true?
Considering the attitude of the elder (über-powerful!) elves towards humans, and the number of humans they've killed for such heinous offences as ... hmmm ... taking a walk in a forest, I'd say that the elves are getting what they've had coming to them for two thousand years. And given the long lifespans of elves, humans aren't just responding to something that was done thousands of years ago by the distant ancestors of the elves -- humans are getting back at many of the same elves who were doing the human slaughtering centuries ago. Payback is a ... well, you know.
Elves are just nasty, egotistical, pointy-earred vermin. I say: wipe 'em all out and turn the forests into venison plantations. |
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