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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 06:22:29
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I am of the opinion that the moderating on the WotC forums is done with a heavy but inconsistent hand...
I've grown less fond of that forum, partially because of the actions of at least one of the mods, and because I'm getting irritated with some of the posters on there. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 06:27:26
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I am of the opinion that the moderating on the WotC forums is done with a heavy but inconsistent hand...
I've grown less fond of that forum, partially because of the actions of at least one of the mods, and because I'm getting irritated with some of the posters on there.
Am I one of those posters? :) I know I can be arguementive (There's a surprise!)...... |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 08:57:22
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I am of the opinion that the moderating on the WotC forums is done with a heavy but inconsistent hand...
I've grown less fond of that forum, partially because of the actions of at least one of the mods, and because I'm getting irritated with some of the posters on there.
Am I one of those posters? :) I know I can be arguementive (There's a surprise!)......
So can I. 
I think I've only disagreed with you like once or twice, and it wasn't a major issue. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 09:11:24
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by kuje31
Am I one of those posters? :) I know I can be arguementive (There's a surprise!)......
So can I.
I think I've only disagreed with you like once or twice, and it wasn't a major issue.
Have you? I can't recall any times that you have. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 12:24:14
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Forgive me, forgive me! I went over to the WotC FR forum (briefly) and a topic (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=c1f1dd19e426ada2af8e0e2353579ab7&threadid=220117) was locked down straight away simply because someone asked about the paper cutting on the hardback WotSQ novels!  It wasnt even mentioning events of the novel, just asking if the cutting was widespread or if she had a faulty copy. Thats pretty extreme if you ask me! Needless to say I wont be returning to that forum with attitudes like that.
Anyway, Faraer answered that that cutting method if called Deckle cutting and is a more expensive way of cutting paper. Odd, I thought it looked a cheaper method, like the pages had been hacked into size with a machete  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 15:14:28
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Originally posted by Rad
Forgive me, forgive me! I went over to the WotC FR forum (briefly) and a topic (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=c1f1dd19e426ada2af8e0e2353579ab7&threadid=220117) was locked down straight away simply because someone asked about the paper cutting on the hardback WotSQ novels! It wasnt even mentioning events of the novel, just asking if the cutting was widespread or if she had a faulty copy. Thats pretty extreme if you ask me! Needless to say I wont be returning to that forum with attitudes like that.
My third warning came for supposedly discussing novels on a thread... and I'd been careful to not do so. I went back to look at the thread to prove my innocence, and the entire thread had been removed -- not locked, deleted. So I had no way to prove my innocence...
The moderation over there is heavy-handed and arbitrary, and the WizOs don't seem to answer to anyone or care about being fair. I had another post deleted because someone bashed the moderation over there, and I agreed, saying that a lot of people, to varying degrees, held the same opinions. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 15:32:28
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Originally posted by Rad
Forgive me, forgive me! I went over to the WotC FR forum (briefly)
The first step in any program in recovery is to ask forgiveness.
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and a topic (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=c1f1dd19e426ada2af8e0e2353579ab7&threadid=220117) was locked down straight away simply because someone asked about the paper cutting on the hardback WotSQ novels! It wasnt even mentioning events of the novel, just asking if the cutting was widespread or if she had a faulty copy. Thats pretty extreme if you ask me! Needless to say I wont be returning to that forum with attitudes like that.
I wonder if Eberron will have a novel forum? Interesting tale you have related there. As I said before, way to maintain good customer relations. 
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Anyway, Faraer answered that that cutting method if called Deckle cutting and is a more expensive way of cutting paper. Odd, I thought it looked a cheaper method, like the pages had been hacked into size with a machete
Careful, the term machete will soon be included as banned topics because you have associated it with a novel. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 15:35:16
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My third warning came for supposedly discussing novels on a thread... and I'd been careful to not do so.
Call me when you get a fourth warning, for thinking about a novel no doubt while reading someone else's post. I can see the warning that will pop up on your screen now:
Thoughts about WOTC novels are not allowed while browsing our forums. Please stop thinking at this time as we find it hinders good communication within our messageboard. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 17:13:51
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My third warning came for supposedly discussing novels on a thread... and I'd been careful to not do so.
Call me when you get a fourth warning, for thinking about a novel no doubt while reading someone else's post. I can see the warning that will pop up on your screen now:
Thoughts about WOTC novels are not allowed while browsing our forums. Please stop thinking at this time as we find it hinders good communication within our messageboard.
Actually, there shan't be a fourth warning. On my third one, my user name was banned. I was invited to re-reg, using a new name, so long as I observed all the rules and made no references to my banned user name.
My exact response to that can not be quoted here.
I was thinking of leaving those forums anyway. For one thing, there's a large number of people on there that I hold in low regard (like the DM whose party includes 2 gods who are going around killing Chosen and other gods, and whom the remaining gods are unwilling to stop). I also got tired of arguing about some of the same points again and again and again -- like whether or not a Drizzt movie would be a good idea. The moderation I have already stated my opinion on... The last thing was that I only paid attention to three parts of the forums, and it still took me forever to get caught up on them.
So I will not return to there; I will stay here where people are friendly, where discussions remain reasonable, where any topics are allowed, and where the mods need make only light touches here and there.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 18:36:31
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| I'm surprised I didn't get a warning for replying in that thread. It shocked me that they shut that thread down as well. It wasn't really discussing a novel. That type of cut is standard on many nonWOTC novels. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 20:35:34
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Call me when you get a fourth warning, for thinking about a novel no doubt while reading someone else's post. I can see the warning that will pop up on your screen now:
Thoughts about WOTC novels are not allowed while browsing our forums. Please stop thinking at this time as we find it hinders good communication within our messageboard.
Isn't it ironic that BigSister's signature says "Big Sister is watching you"?
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2004 : 21:54:56
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Ah, one of the main reasons I/we/whatever avoid ever having to travel to the WOTC boards to look for additional information on... whatever (in the rare case that Sage or someone lacks the information I/We/whatever seek). After all, I/We/whatever wonder how they would react to a half-insane wandering rambling prophet/village idiot . Far too frightful overthere... ...
Oh, well their loss... The Keep is stuck with Me/Us/etc.
Question, WHY is it so frightful over there? Why the such different feel from here to there? Any...Logical...truthful....polite answers to that? |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 04:35:55
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| Logical and truthful yes, polite no. *hides snark* |
Edited by - Winterfox on 15 Apr 2004 04:36:54 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 05:23:58
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Originally posted by Cardinal Deimos
Question, WHY is it so frightful over there? Why the such different feel from here to there? Any...Logical...truthful....polite answers to that?
Scroll up and look at my last comment... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 05:44:22
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Originally posted by Winterfox
Isn't it ironic that BigSister's signature says "Big Sister is watching you"?
*smirks a smirky smirk*
She needs to have that song by Rockwell, I think, play every time she sends a warning to someone
I always feel like, somebody's watching me... |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 05:46:14
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Originally posted by Cardinal Deimos
Question, WHY is it so frightful over there? Why the such different feel from here to there? Any...Logical...truthful....polite answers to that?[/purple]
Less people on here than their site. If this place becomes as popular as WOTC's board, it will encounter the same problems. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 06:02:13
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Let us hope that is never the case here then  . I've always been amazed by the quality and quantity of Realmslore contained here at Candlekeep. I would hate to think that such poor conduct - which was responsible for the problems on the WotC Novel Boards - could come to plague this indispensible bastion of knowledge on the Realms.
The fact that the Candlekeep community is so small when compared to other forums, could very well be the site's saving grace.
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 07:36:41
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 What? The Keep is smaller?!? Well I suppose it makes sense... but still... They scare me those people at the WOTC boards... They're not right in the head.... Just kidding.... or am I? Spooky eh?
Well lets hope The Keep remains the friendly place that it is, Masters, Regulars, commoners and the insane all equal |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 08:52:35
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Cardinal Deimos
Question, WHY is it so frightful over there? Why the such different feel from here to there? Any...Logical...truthful....polite answers to that?[/purple]
Less people on here than their site. If this place becomes as popular as WOTC's board, it will encounter the same problems.
Well met
Ohhhh fear not, my dear SiriusBlack.
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WITH MY STAFF OF THE IRRITATED MODERATOR +5, I AM INVINNNNNCIB ::cough, splutter::
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 09:31:32
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Might I remind the esteemed Alaundo that whenever a person utters the phrase "I am invicible!" they usually die soon after?  |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 10:48:47
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
Might I remind the esteemed Alaundo that whenever a person utters the phrase "I am invicible!" they usually die soon after?
Well met
Phew, 'tis indeed good fortune that I never finished the sentence after all |
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 12:26:57
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Originally posted by Alaundo
WITH MY STAFF OF THE IRRITATED MODERATOR +5
So it's gone down in enchantment, has it? |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 13:28:41
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met
Ohhhh fear not, my dear SiriusBlack.
::puffs out his chest and expands to a towering 10 feet tall, then speaks with a booming voice::
WITH MY STAFF OF THE IRRITATED MODERATOR +5, I AM INVINNNNNCIB ::cough, splutter::
::shrinks to normal size::
It's funny I know, but Alaundo's blustering reminds me of something that I've heard before .
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 15:05:18
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
The fact that the Candlekeep community is so small when compared to other forums, could very well be the site's saving grace.
I think it also helps that Candlekeep is not a corporate site. Being free from the WotC, we don't have to worry about decisions they make affecting the forums -- as with the entire novel thing. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 15:33:04
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
The fact that the Candlekeep community is so small when compared to other forums, could very well be the site's saving grace.
I think it also helps that Candlekeep is not a corporate site. Being free from the WotC, we don't have to worry about decisions they make affecting the forums -- as with the entire novel thing.
Im sure that in the old days of TSRs "Online Policy" that Candlekeep would have given them cause for concern though. And even now, WotC could come down like a ton of bricks on this place or any other. |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 15:38:30
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Heh . . . I remember the mighty reach of TSR's Online Policy on the first Spelljammer Mailing List. It was so difficult to post anything that dealt with the sourcebooks, that the List quickly degenerated into a place where only PbP games were being run  .
Fortunately, that changed once the Lists were moved to a new server.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 15:51:22
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Originally posted by Rad
Im sure that in the old days of TSRs "Online Policy" that Candlekeep would have given them cause for concern though. And even now, WotC could come down like a ton of bricks on this place or any other.
Ah the old days, wasn't Sean Reynolds involved with that old policy in the past? |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 16:03:18
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I'm not Rad, but yes I think he was. He'd often be the one responsible for closing down the inappropriate threads on the SJML. He did offer some great SJ material of his own though, I'm sure I've saved those archives somewhere . . .
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 16:04:08
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Rad
Im sure that in the old days of TSRs "Online Policy" that Candlekeep would have given them cause for concern though. And even now, WotC could come down like a ton of bricks on this place or any other.
Ah the old days, wasn't Sean Reynolds involved with that old policy in the past?
I believe thats right, Sirius. Sean was the sole "online coordinator" or whatever in those days. |
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"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 : 16:06:55
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Originally posted by Rad
I believe thats right, Sirius. Sean was the sole "online coordinator" or whatever in those days.
Thank you. I thought so as I seem to recall some animosity between Sean Reynolds and others based upon people dealing with him as the online coordinator. |
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