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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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 Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 04:01:38
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Let's see....what I've read and a quick review...
Master of Chains: Terrible
I actually liked that book a lot. Not to put you on the spot or anything, but I'd love to hear your more detailed opinion about it. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36965 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 05:55:05
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There are probably some others....does anyone else remember the Finder's Stone Trilogy?
It's rather popular among those of us who have been Realms fans for a while. I've read all the Novak-Grubb Realms books, and that writing duo holds the top spot on my fave Realms writers list.  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 06:09:55
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Originally posted by Von Seossk
There are probably some others....does anyone else remember the Finder's Stone Trilogy?
It's rather popular among those of us who have been Realms fans for a while. I've read all the Novak-Grubb Realms books, and that writing duo holds the top spot on my fave Realms writers list.
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Von Seossk
Acolyte
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Posted - 25 Jul 2006 : 17:17:10
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Well, it's good that other people know what I'm talking about...to me it unfortunetly seems like a book that has gone by the wayside, and been forgotten a little in the wake of all the other books, which is bad because I really enjoyed all of them, though I wasn't even interested in D&D when the first one came out. I actually found all three in a used bookstore and bought them because they were the only complete book set.
As to an extended reveiw of master of chains...I began reading it with the highest of hopes, as I love the old PRC from Sword and Fist that this book is obviously based on. The first problem I had was with the main character. He spends some time with the chain, pretty much being locked up in them, and then by the end of the book, he's suddenly able to do magic tricks with them, a la the old PRC, I just didn't think he spent enough time to be able to do what he did with them. Second, the plot...the Calishite (pardon me if thats not what he was) was always plotting and scheming but nothing every really came of it, and the shuffling of all the players, The main character and his wife, his brother and the leader of the bandits, bascially shuffling around in a plot that seems lifted from a soap opera. The MC sleeps with the Bandit leader, and since his wife thinks he's dead, she sleeps with his brother, whom is apparently working for the "villain". To top it off...they didn't even kill the real villain...she escapes, the main character dies, and then he gets raised from the dead! That's not the kind of ending I'd like to see unless there was a continuation, which doesn't seem to be forthcoming. It's just like...so he goes through all that...survives...magically becomes a master of chains...gets laid..but then dies and comes back as a zombie slave? I was just disappointed. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 01:12:28
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| Thanks for your comments--you make some good points there. I have to admit, though, I liked the soap-opera style parts. |
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mavericace
Seeker
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 01:29:26
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| I finished Tantras yesterday, now on to Waterdeep. I cant wait to finish the Trilogy so that i can read some books that I consider more entertaining lol. |
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Von Seossk
Acolyte
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 02:18:30
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Thanks for your comments--you make some good points there. I have to admit, though, I liked the soap-opera style parts.
Thanks, hey, if people didn't have conflicting views on some of the books, there'd wouldn't be that many reasons to have forums like these. I don't mind drama sometimes, but there always comes a point when I just say "alright, what's the Faerunian equivalent of Jerry Springer, cause these people need to be on it"
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 02:23:06
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Hey, I've felt that way about some characters myself.  |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 03:16:45
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Originally posted by mavericace
I finished Tantras yesterday, now on to Waterdeep. I cant wait to finish the Trilogy so that i can read some books that I consider more entertaining lol.
I've felt that way about a couple of trilogies (and about the WotSQ, which I'm still working my way thru). The two books that follow the Avatar trilogy, though, are quite good. At least, that's my opinion of Prince of Lies and Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad. Your mileage may vary. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 05:36:07
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The two books that follow the Avatar trilogy, though, are quite good. At least, that's my opinion of Prince of Lies and Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad. Your mileage may vary.
Agreed.
Though, I found Prince of Lies a little more entertaining than Crucible, probably because by the time I started the second book, I was growing a weary of reading so much about Cyric.
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Ignorance Personified
Seeker
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 06:41:17
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Originally posted by mavericace
I finished Tantras yesterday, now on to Waterdeep. I cant wait to finish the Trilogy so that i can read some books that I consider more entertaining lol.
Well, I found Waterdeep to be the most enjoyable book in the trilogy. As The Sage and Wooly Rupert said, the two follow up novels are more entertaining than the trilogy itself.
I just finished Blackstaff (good read) and will move on to The Wyvern's Spur soon. |
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mavericace
Seeker
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Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 07:24:42
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Well I think i enjoyed Tantras better than Shadowdale so hopefully they only get better lol. I do plan on reading Prince of Lies and Crucible when I finish with Waterdeep.
By the way Ignorance Personified The Wyvern's Spur was my favorite of a very good set of books. I first thought I wouldnt like it due to Giogi Wyvernspur being the focus of the book (I didnt like him very much from Azure Bonds) but he turned out to be a very cool main character. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2006 : 10:34:58
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The Wyvern's Spur is great! There's been a couple of times I've read that one by itself, I like it so much.  |
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Ignorance Personified
Seeker
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 00:24:34
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| Thanks for the comments, I enjoyed Azure Bonds and for what you all have said the second novel should be an excellent read as well. |
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Von Seossk
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 00:58:27
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| I think, out of all three books, I enjoyed the Wyvernspur the most. I think I read it straight in six hours. The first book is really close behind though. I actually like the whole mystery aspect in the books, which I won't spoil in case people want to be surprised. Giogi was a bit blah in the first novel, but he really comes through in the second one. He and Cat are definetly two characters I wouldn't mind showing up in another book, or even a short story sometimes. I especially like the parts when they go down into the family crypt, and he has to deal with the guardian |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36965 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 01:25:42
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Originally posted by Von Seossk
I think, out of all three books, I enjoyed the Wyvernspur the most. I think I read it straight in six hours. The first book is really close behind though. I actually like the whole mystery aspect in the books, which I won't spoil in case people want to be surprised. Giogi was a bit blah in the first novel, but he really comes through in the second one. He and Cat are definetly two characters I wouldn't mind showing up in another book, or even a short story sometimes. I especially like the parts when they go down into the family crypt, and he has to deal with the guardian
They do show up in Cormyr: A Novel, but not in large parts. |
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Von Seossk
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 06:01:56
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It figures, I read Cormyr such a long time ago, even before I read any of the Finder's Stone books, I suppose I didn't even register that they showed up, probably because I didn't even know who they were at the time.
I was wondering, the next Best of the Realms book is based on the work of Elaine Cunningham, have they decided who the fourth one is going to be based on? I figure eventually they'll do one compiling RA Salvatore's stories, or perhaps Troy Denning |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 17:03:07
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| Blackstaff and Bloodwalk done. Time for a break in the Fr-reading now, though. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 21:10:16
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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fitz
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 21:39:14
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| I just finish my Eberron tour and begin the dragonlance tour, but I read some short stories of the realms of elves. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 01:40:01
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Blackstaff and Bloodwalk done. Time for a break in the Fr-reading now, though.
I'm hoping my copy of Blackstaff will arrive before I finish my current book (a DL novel), otherwise... Wooly's talk about a BT novel recently, may actually see me start reading something else. 
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 02:47:18
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Blackstaff and Bloodwalk done. Time for a break in the Fr-reading now, though.
I'm hoping my copy of Blackstaff will arrive before I finish my current book (a DL novel), otherwise... Wooly's talk about a BT novel recently, may actually see me start reading something else.
Heh... I'm just waiting for the promised relaunch of the CBT fiction line. 
I'm reading the DL book, myself, and quite enjoying it (though it does provide minor continuity quibbles). Once I'm done with that, it's back to dragging myself thru the last book of WotSQ -- and I'll be so glad to finish that series, because it has yet to live up to even a shadow of the hype! I honestly don't see what is supposed to be so great about it. I doubt I'll ever read those books again.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 03:02:49
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Blackstaff and Bloodwalk done. Time for a break in the Fr-reading now, though.
I'm hoping my copy of Blackstaff will arrive before I finish my current book (a DL novel), otherwise... Wooly's talk about a BT novel recently, may actually see me start reading something else.
Heh... I'm just waiting for the promised relaunch of the CBT fiction line.
Well, you know I am as well. And frankly, the DA line is becoming frustrating. Capellan-inbreeding... please. 
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I'm reading the DL book, myself, and quite enjoying it (though it does provide minor continuity quibbles).
Actually, I haven't started Dragons of the Dwarven Depths as yet because my copy (along with my copy of Blackstaff) is still to arrive.
I'm behind on the DL backlog as well... I'm only now working through Sanctuary. I should finish that today... so from there it'll either be Assumption of Risk (the BT novel I mentioned earlier) or The Sapphire Crescent.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36965 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 03:23:31
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Blackstaff and Bloodwalk done. Time for a break in the Fr-reading now, though.
I'm hoping my copy of Blackstaff will arrive before I finish my current book (a DL novel), otherwise... Wooly's talk about a BT novel recently, may actually see me start reading something else.
Heh... I'm just waiting for the promised relaunch of the CBT fiction line.
Well, you know I am as well. And frankly, the DA line is becoming frustrating. Capellan-inbreeding... please.
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I'm reading the DL book, myself, and quite enjoying it (though it does provide minor continuity quibbles).
Actually, I haven't started Dragons of the Dwarven Depths as yet because my copy (along with my copy of Blackstaff) is still to arrive.
I'm behind on the DL backlog as well... I'm only now working through Sanctuary. I should finish that today... so from there it'll either be Assumption of Risk (the BT novel I mentioned earlier) or The Sapphire Crescent.
I gave up on the MWDA books after only the third or fourth one. But Capellan inbreeding? It would explain Max, Romano, and Kali. Besides, who cares about the Cappies? 
As for DL, after reading the first few trilogies (which included the first Tales trilogy), I gave up on anything not written by Weis & Hickman.
Back to the Realms, I've heard good thing about the Scions of Arrabar books, but I don't think I have the third one yet, and I've not yet read the first two. Too many books, too little time... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 05:26:27
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I gave up on the MWDA books after only the third or fourth one. But Capellan inbreeding? It would explain Max, Romano, and Kali. Besides, who cares about the Cappies?
Oh, it has nothing to do with Max and Romano... the son and daughter of Sun-Tzu -- the Centrella-Liaos -- are in fact the parents of Danai.
Hmmm... this has actually given me a Realms-related question I'd like to pose to Ed.
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Back to the Realms, I've heard good thing about the Scions of Arrabar books, but I don't think I have the third one yet, and I've not yet read the first two. Too many books, too little time...
Aye.
I've only just put aside the entire trilogy for reading... today. However, this might be a good time to take a look through some of the older discussion scrolls for the books here in the FR Novel section.
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J D Dunsany
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 05:37:56
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Hi!
I must say I really enjoyed 'The Sapphire Crescent' and will probably be reading the next one in the trilogy, once I've finished 'Song of the Saurials'. Which probably won't be long!
Gotta say I'm really enjoying this one - I loved the characters from 'Azure Bonds' and seeing how Grubb and Novak develop them in this book is particularly interesting. Plus, there are some wonderfully gruesome horror moments in 'Song of the Saurials' - all those characters wandering round with tendrils in their bodies. Class stuff!
Best wishes!
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Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 15:37:07
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| I see many of these questions pop up around the halls of Candlekeep so I won't bother starting a new topic for this. But...I am wondering what series to start next. I am nearly done reading Spellfire. When thats over I am wondering if I should finish Shandril's Saga or move on to something else? My considerations are either the Return of the Archwizards or Counselors and Kings. Any opinions from the many learned scribes here would be greatly appreciated. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 15:54:54
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I'd finish up with "Shandril's Saga" and then move on to Elaine's books. Ed and Elaine are my favorite Realms authors... so I'm naturally going to suggest you keep to their work first. And since you've already started the Shandril books, it makes sense to finish them up.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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36965 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 17:17:41
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I see many of these questions pop up around the halls of Candlekeep so I won't bother starting a new topic for this. But...I am wondering what series to start next. I am nearly done reading Spellfire. When thats over I am wondering if I should finish Shandril's Saga or move on to something else? My considerations are either the Return of the Archwizards or Counselors and Kings. Any opinions from the many learned scribes here would be greatly appreciated.
I, too, would say that you might as well finish the Saga. As for the other two trilogies you list, Counselors and Kings is a very good one; just about everyone who has read it has liked it. Return of the Archwizards... Well, some folk hate it, some folk love it. I fall into the former category.
Though we never quite reached a consensus, this is a topic that was discussed at length in the Experienced help for recommending FR Novels thread. Perusing that scroll may be helpful for you. |
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Jorkens
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 : 18:20:49
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Well, it depends a little bit on what you feel like; if you want a break from Shandril, read something else, if not continue with Crown of Fire. The rest of the trilogy continues more or less in the same vein and if you feel like more Greenwood continue. I love the books, but that's pure subjectiveness.
As for the other trilogies I cant help you much, Archwizards I have not read and Counselors were not among my favorites. |
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