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Snotlord
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Posted - 10 May 2005 :  18:11:39  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message
I finished the Rite recently, and Byers just made it to my authors-to-watch list. Writing RSE must be tricky, as lots of the fans are likely to hate you, but I think he pulled it off nicely. Great characters and a fun story, once I got over the goofy half-golem and the dull cover. I am really looking forward to the next book.

I just started out on the Forsaken House, and it seems to be every bit as good as people say. Finally a well-rounded, and likable, sun elf. Baker shows that City of Ravens was not just a stroke of luck. Somebody give this man a raise!

The Yellow Silk was kinda disappointing as Don's Dark Matter books was really cool. Still, its good, especially if you like "small" stories that does not invole magic disasters and returning evils from the past.
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Xysma
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Posted - 10 May 2005 :  21:25:35  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Crust

You know, I've been very pleased with the Realms books of late. I've really enjoyed The Forsaken House, The Rogue Dragon series (anthology included--loved every story!), and the Scions of Arrabar books. Sapphire Crescent was hungrily devoured as soon as I realized what I was reading. I'm savoring Ruby Guardian.

I plan on reading Ressurection next, but I'm a bit iffy about starting the Priests books. I have Lady of Poison and Mistress of Night. I also own (but haven't read) Crimson Gold or Yellow Silk. What do you folks think?



Crimson Gold was fun to read, especially if you like Tazi from the Sembia series. I also really enjoyed The Yellow Silk, it was well written and had very colorful characters. Mistress of the Night I thought was decent, the heretics of Selune offered a perspective that I had never encountered about Selune/Shar's relationship.
Lady of Poison seems to have gotten bashed all over this thread, and I hate to continue it, but I quit reading it after the first 60-70 pages. I'll probably go back to finish it eventually, but it held little interest for me.

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Tanyn Midrain
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Posted - 11 May 2005 :  03:49:28  Show Profile  Visit Tanyn Midrain's Homepage Send Tanyn Midrain a Private Message
In defense of the aforementioned novel, I must say I liked the flashbacks into Marrec's past.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 11 May 2005 :  04:30:13  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Tanyn Midrain

In defense of the aforementioned novel, I must say I liked the flashbacks into Marrec's past.



Check out the thread devoted to the title. Others have commented on liking that aspect.
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Xysma
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Posted - 23 May 2005 :  14:48:09  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
Since I am running a campaign that takes place largely within the Rawlinswood, I decided to go back to this book and give it another try. Well, it brought me up to date with what's going on with the Rotting Man, and the blightlords in the Rawlinswood, which was my reason for reading it. In spite of my lack of interest early on, I ended up enjoying it. It's by no means a classic of Realms literature, but it was definitely not a waste of time.

I also read Realms of Dragons 1 and 2, both of which I enjoyed tremendously. I have started on Realms of Infamy (I just finished Ed's Manshoon story, which was excellent) and I decided to go ahead and work my way through all of the anthologies.

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Prince Forge of Avalon
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Posted - 24 May 2005 :  01:46:11  Show Profile  Visit Prince Forge of Avalon's Homepage Send Prince Forge of Avalon a Private Message
I just finished Maiden of Pain and let me be the first to say I hope Kameron writes more FR books , I like his style.

Waiting for next Novel or Supplement............Hmmmmmmmmm, Hurry up already!!

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Neo2151
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Posted - 27 May 2005 :  09:31:05  Show Profile Send Neo2151 a Private Message
I see many saying that Lady of Poison was a slight let down. I actually liked it. It carried itself nicely and brought back a sense of adventure the realms hasn't really felt in quite a while. Many, MANY, novels these days tend to focus on intrigue and politics, which makes for good novels, but that's not what originally built the realms. Personally, I felt that Lady of Pain was very similar (and just as good a read) as novels like The Moonshae Trilogy and The Druidhome Trilogy. Predictable, sort of on the slow side, but enjoyable none the less. Personally I was let down by The Black Bouquet. Throughout the entire story, you're built up to see this final item, expecting it to be powerful or some such nonsense as that, and... it's not. Of all things in Faerun to make a HUGE deal about, it's just... a book? Let down climax, but enjoyable anyhow.

Personally, having read most of Faerun's stories, I'd recommend these as excelent reads if you haven't gotten around to them:
Double Diamond Triangle Saga-Hard to find many of the existing novels for cheap, but an incredible read (even if it isn't cannon). Besides, it gives hardcore RAS fans a chance to see how Artemus is portrayed by his creater, Ed Greenwood.
The Murder In... Series-Again, hard to find, but incredibly good books, the both of them (haven't read Murder in the Tower of High Sorcery as it's a Dragonlance book, but I'm sure it's just as good as the other two). Truly wish WOTC hadn't canceled the series, Murder in Raven's Bluff would've made an excellent read!
The Sembia Series-Anytime a bunch of realms-fameous authors get together and decide how a series should work, you won't be let down.
War of the Spider Queen Series-Quickly has become one of my favorite series. Can't wait to finish reading Resurrection.
The Cities Series-Also great reads. Can't wait for the fourth installment (Waterdeep) to come out!

Bah, too many more to think about when one is this tired. Just read 'em all
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 May 2005 :  11:23:23  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neo2151

Double Diamond Triangle Saga-Hard to find many of the existing novels for cheap, but an incredible read (even if it isn't cannon). Besides, it gives hardcore RAS fans a chance to see how Artemus is portrayed by his creater, Ed Greenwood.


Wait -- you're saying Artemis Entreri was created by Ed? I've never heard that before... Where does that info come from?

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Kuje
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Posted - 27 May 2005 :  18:47:14  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Neo2151

Double Diamond Triangle Saga-Hard to find many of the existing novels for cheap, but an incredible read (even if it isn't cannon). Besides, it gives hardcore RAS fans a chance to see how Artemus is portrayed by his creater, Ed Greenwood.


Wait -- you're saying Artemis Entreri was created by Ed? I've never heard that before... Where does that info come from?



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Neo2151
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Posted - 28 May 2005 :  08:09:33  Show Profile Send Neo2151 a Private Message
Eh, I'm probably wrong about that, but seeing as RAS wasn't included in the authors who wrote up FRCS (where Entreri is statted out) and the fact that Ed introduced him into the series AND the fact that a good 90+% of the NPC's in the realms WERE created by Ed, I kinda put two and two and two together in my mind. I tend to do that, many appologies if i'm wrong.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 28 May 2005 :  14:51:01  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (3rd-edition-rules that is, not the first book about the setting) originally published June 2001.

The abduction (part 1 of the saga of the long and hard-to-remember name) originally published January 1998.

The Crystal Shard (first mention of Entreri to my recollection) originally published March 1988.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 May 2005 :  18:15:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neo2151

Eh, I'm probably wrong about that, but seeing as RAS wasn't included in the authors who wrote up FRCS (where Entreri is statted out) and the fact that Ed introduced him into the series AND the fact that a good 90+% of the NPC's in the realms WERE created by Ed, I kinda put two and two and two together in my mind. I tend to do that, many appologies if i'm wrong.



Entreri has been statted out many, many times (as has Drizzt, an undeniable RAS creation). Authors usually don't have anything to do with the tomes that stat out their characters.

You say "Ed introduced him into the series"... What series? Entreri, so far as I can recall, was first intro'ed by RAS in the Icewind Dale trilogy.

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Faraer
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Posted - 28 May 2005 :  23:09:12  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message
Ed doesn't create Realms characters called 'Artemis'.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 May 2005 :  01:23:39  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Ed doesn't create Realms characters called 'Artemis'.



I gotta admit, that first name has always bugged me. I like the name Artemis, but that's the name of one of my faves of the Greek goddesses, not the name of a male assassin!

As a side note, I've also named my computer Artemis, and there's an IT company in town by that name, too.

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Neo2151
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USA
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Posted - 29 May 2005 :  04:41:42  Show Profile Send Neo2151 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
You say "Ed introduced him into the series"... What series? Entreri, so far as I can recall, was first intro'ed by RAS in the Icewind Dale trilogy.



I was speaking of the Double Diamond Triangle Saga. The first book that Artemus appears in in that series was written by Greenwood.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 May 2005 :  06:52:49  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Neo2151

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
You say "Ed introduced him into the series"... What series? Entreri, so far as I can recall, was first intro'ed by RAS in the Icewind Dale trilogy.



I was speaking of the Double Diamond Triangle Saga. The first book that Artemus appears in in that series was written by Greenwood.



Perhaps so, but that series came long after the Icewind Dale trilogy unleashed Artemis Entreri and a whiny drow upon the Realms.

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Alaundo
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Posted - 29 May 2005 :  11:01:39  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message
Well met

Hmmmm, it may be worth taking this discussion of Artemis over to another scroll.

Thank ye.

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 29 May 2005 :  11:08:47  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message
Well after finishing the appauling Council of Blades, I went on to read The Ogre's Pact. Wow, great novel and yet another that I brushed to one side for far too many years! I thoroughly enjoyed this tale and am looking forward to starting the next book soon. So far, I have enjoyed all of Dennings novels, I think he was a great asset to the Realms back in that era.

Anyway, since reading this novel, I went out and brought the rerelease. I wasn't going to bother but I think it's more than worthy (and the original covers are quite bad )

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 29 May 2005 :  16:46:36  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message
I loved the Twilight Giants trilogy, and I really felt like it got little aknowlagement when it first came out, even though it was the first set of books to treat giants as anything except "the big monsters" in a horde of humanoids. Not to mention the ogres in the book have a much nastier reputation than is generally thought of.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 May 2005 :  19:52:41  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
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I loved the Twilight Giants trilogy,


Well, that makes one of us. I so seriously didn't like the first book that I never bothered with the rest of the trilogy.

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Kuje
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Posted - 29 May 2005 :  20:59:26  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I loved the Twilight Giants trilogy,


Well, that makes one of us. I so seriously didn't like the first book that I never bothered with the rest of the trilogy.



As much as I don't like Troy's writings for FR. I did enjoy that series. :)

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LordAnki
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Posted - 31 May 2005 :  16:07:18  Show Profile  Visit LordAnki's Homepage Send LordAnki a Private Message
Well i started with Dark Elf Trilogy, then went to Icewind Dale and now i'm on The Legacy. So way behind lol considreing Legacy came out in 1994.

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Neo2151
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Posted - 31 May 2005 :  19:45:29  Show Profile Send Neo2151 a Private Message
To anyone who's read the nobles series:
I've been warned that Council of Blades is horrible, and because of that I've been putting off the entire series. Are the other five novels good reads?

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Paec_djinn
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 :  10:01:58  Show Profile  Visit Paec_djinn's Homepage Send Paec_djinn a Private Message
Neo: I haven't read the series but from what I heard most of the books aren't very good and the few which are better aren't that good either.

There's a thread for the series here: http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4143
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Enialus Meliamne
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Portugal
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Posted - 12 Jun 2005 :  16:39:43  Show Profile  Visit Enialus Meliamne's Homepage Send Enialus Meliamne a Private Message
Hum...Wow...Well this is one old thread! Amazing! Well...I read the Icewind Dale trilogy back in High School (graduated in 93). After that, I got sidetracked a little to say the least from the FR series. Then I started ready RAS work again and have either the compilation books or single novels for each of his books in paperback (*Chews nails in anticipation of the paperback release of The Two Swords*). That being said, after a deployment in '03 where I played my first real PnP sessions of length, I was hooked. Since then, I have expanded my book list to the following: Having read those NOT in italics:
The Moonshae Trilogy
The Dark Elf Trilogy (Compilation)
Legacy of the Drow (Compilation)
All of the Rogues series
The Cleric Quintet (Compilation and MY FAVORITE SERIES!!!)
The Icewind Dale Trilogy
The Avatar Trilogy (Crucible)
The Hunters Blade I and II
Paths of Darkness Series
Starlight and Shadows trilogy (Reading right now)
Songs and Swords 1 and 2 (3, 4, and 5 on order from Amazon just this morning)
The Return of the Archmages w/anthology (No offense meant, but my least favorite series so far after starting book 1, though I will read it fully after I am caught up with ECs books
The Counselors and Kings (GREAT SERIES)
Rage
Elminster Series now on order...See below post :-)

That said, I am soon to move to the Azores courtesy of the US Government, so I will be looking for some dandy reads to accompany me there. "Borrowed" from a post on these forums, I now have a Notepad document with a quite well done listing of Realms books :-)), so I see a large book order in the near future LOL.

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Edited by - Enialus Meliamne on 12 Jun 2005 17:18:55
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 12 Jun 2005 :  16:47:03  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message
Enialus Meliamne, you should definately look into putting a few of Ed's books on your list, especially Elminster in Hell (which will tie into the Return of the Archwizards trilogy) and Elminster's Daughter (which I feel are the best books in the Elminster series so far).
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KnightErrantJR
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Oh, sorry, the Cormyr series is also a must (Cormyr, Beyond the High Road, and Death of the Dragon). Plus, I wouldn't read Elminster's Daughter until you read Death of the Dragon.

And if you like Elaine Cunningham you should definately read Evermeet.
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Enialus Meliamne
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Posted - 12 Jun 2005 :  16:53:23  Show Profile  Visit Enialus Meliamne's Homepage Send Enialus Meliamne a Private Message
How could I forget??? I did read Elminster: Making of a Mage (?) on that same deployment I played PnP for the first time on. That said, I will be ordering that series soon...Very soon. Thanks for your insight! *Heads over to Amazon for the second time today*

I am also intrigued by the Priests series and WILL be picking those up as well (Though from the local book store instead of online since I know all of them will be available).

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Edited by - Enialus Meliamne on 12 Jun 2005 17:59:45
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Xysma
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Posted - 22 Jun 2005 :  18:34:35  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I loved the Twilight Giants trilogy, and I really felt like it got little aknowlagement when it first came out, even though it was the first set of books to treat giants as anything except "the big monsters" in a horde of humanoids. Not to mention the ogres in the book have a much nastier reputation than is generally thought of.



I haven't started Twilight Giants yet, but I have heard good things from everyone who has read it (except for Wooly). It's the next series on my list, just as soon as I finish Sapphire Crescent and Ruby Guardian.

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SiriusBlack
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I'm currently trying to finish up a second reading of The Forsaken House before diving into The Farthest Reach.
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