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ElaineCunningham
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 Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 14:27:35
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Elaith learns that Amnestria bore him a son, who, in a twist of cosmic irony, is more of a rogue than his father
If you throw in Arilyn finding out that Blackstaff and Danilo have been holding out on her about her half Brother, then definately this one! 
Yeah, that's pretty likely to hit the fan, isn't it? 
It'd be very difficult to leave that aspect out of the story--especially considering that this tale would have a subplot that involves Arilyn's mother. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 14:34:19
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EC, I noticed you missed my question regarding how you would envision Evermeet in the winter time.
Would that particular topic possibly be protected by an NDA?
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ode904
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 14:35:22
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
If you throw in Arilyn finding out that Blackstaff and Danilo have been holding out on her about her half Brother, then definately this one!
Heh. I can imagine that. It was a little shock in the case of Bronwyn too .
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Eronthar Elvenkin
Acolyte
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 14:38:56
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I wonder if you're thinking about new stories about the Liriel and his girl-band.
And looking forward to hear more stories about interesting lands like Halruaa or Calimport. |
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ode904
Learned Scribe
Finland
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 14:48:27
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Originally posted by Eronthar Elvenkin
I wonder if you're thinking about new stories about the Liriel and his girl-band.
And looking forward to hear more stories about interesting lands like Halruaa or Calimport.
A story about Liriel would be interesting. If you want to read about Halruaa, there's Murder in Halruaa for example. |
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Eronthar Elvenkin
Acolyte
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 14:54:44
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Originally posted by ode904
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Originally posted by Eronthar Elvenkin
I wonder if you're thinking about new stories about the Liriel and his girl-band.
And looking forward to hear more stories about interesting lands like Halruaa or Calimport.
A story about Liriel would be interesting. If you want to read about Halruaa, there's Murder in Halruaa for example.
Thanks for the advice. But what i mean is places that not familiar. Mr.Salvatore's Calimport was fine but not complicated. And i like to hear it from Mrs. Cunningham. She has a fine way to tell a story. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 14:59:19
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Originally posted by The Sage
EC, I noticed you missed my question regarding how you would envision Evermeet in the winter time.
Would that particular topic possibly be protected by an NDA?
Not to my knowledge, no. I did miss the question, but the end result would have been the same--no answer. I haven't gone through the process of envisioning Evermeet in winter just yet. :) |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 15:01:08
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Originally posted by ode904
BTW Thornhold was translated as 'Family secret' in Finland
Interesting. Some of the translations come up with odd titles. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 15:26:22
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Originally posted by Eronthar Elvenkin
I wonder if you're thinking about new stories about Liriel and her girl-band.
And looking forward to hear more stories about interesting lands like Halruaa or Calimport.
From time to time, I think it would be fun to write about the adventures of a kick-ass elven sisterhood, but there are no plans to revisit Liriel's story at this time.
Same thing with Halruaa--no plans to continue Matteo and Tzigone's story. I haven't given much thought to writing a story set in Calimport, but someone should. And while they're at it, do some serious worldbuilding there, something that focuses on the splendor and the scholarship as well as the squalor. With all that's happening in the middle east these days, it's not a bad time to remember that the Arab cultures have a rich history and fascinating folklore and mythology.
But I don't suppose this is likely to occur. As observed in a recent blog post about a book entitled blink, fantasy adventure novels that focus on cultures other than northern European seem to be a hard sell.
One of these days I want to write a (non-FR) fantasy novel based in African mythology. I ran the idea past quite a few people, and Bob Salvatore had the best suggestion: write it as a young adult novel. Readers that age tend to explore the folklore of various cultures, and teachers are always on the lookout for books that show "diversity." It's the sort of thing school libraries would purchase, and bookstores would display prominently every February. I've been a folklore and mythology buff since forever, and there's some really cool stuff in the various African myths. It'd be a fun project. The fact that I couldn't BE any whiter might strike some people as a deterrent, but then, I'm not an elf, either. And hey--a past-life regression psychic once informed me that I was a Masai warrior in a former life, so I'm good to go.
Lest my Elaith questionaire prove to be misleading, I should probably specify that I'm not working on ANY new FR books at present. Short stories will probably be it for at least the next couple of years. I don't have anything new on WotC's 2006 publishing schedule, and my writing schedule for 2006/2007 is rapidly filling up with other stuff. The prospect of an Elaith novel would probably tempt me back into the fold, but at this point in time, there are other stories I feel more compelled to tell, and other voices in the back of my mind are louder and more insistent than those of my FR characters. |
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Eronthar Elvenkin
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 15:36:08
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I don't know what other people in here might think, but i like to read other than FR books of yours. It's not all about Fantasy, it's about style and grace of an author.
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 15:45:56
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I haven't given much thought to writing a story set in Calimport, but someone should. And while they're at it, do some serious worldbuilding there, something that focuses on the splendor and the scholarship as well as the squalor. With all that's happening in the middle east these days, it's not a bad time to remember that the Arab cultures have a rich history and fascinating folklore and mythology.
I find this phenomenon quite strange, after all, Arabian Nightsnot only remain a popular source for movie-makers to draw from (how many versions is there of Aladdin or Sinbad?), but at least in Sweden, is a fairly steady seller in its book-form too. So you'd think there'd be a market for "oriental-flavoured" fantasy, wouldn't you? At the moment I can only think of two succesful ones, but I'm really not sure about the sales-figures. Tom Holt wrote a pair (possibly more) of humourous fantasy-novels set in Moorish Spain and its surroundings.
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Lest my Elaith questionaire prove to be misleading, I should probably specify that I'm not working on ANY new FR books at present. Short stories will probably be it for at least the next couple of years. I don't have anything new on WotC's 2006 publishing schedule, and my writing schedule for 2006/2007 is rapidly filling up with other stuff. The prospect of an Elaith novel would probably tempt me back into the fold, but at this point in time, there are other stories I feel more compelled to tell, and other voices in the back of my mind are louder and more insistent than those of my FR characters.
[ignorable whine]But I want a novel [/ignorable whine]
I suppose with that limitation set I'll change my vote to Return to Craulnober Keep. Ghost stories are always fun |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 16:08:49
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I’m going to just list, in general, what I would love to see come out of your pen. In order of preference:
The whole Tree of Life (Tree of …something) thing that is supposed to be planted elsewhere for the elves. This is a huge one.
Liriel and a “kick-ass elven sisterhood.” series of novels. Throughout her series, she was focused on the windwalker. I’d like to see what she’s up to now that she can cut loose. Also, I think it would do FR good to have a group of non-chosen women whose kung-fu is strong. Kendal Leafblower should hang with them. Because he’s cool.
Eliath returning to the haunted Craulnober keep AND finding out that he has a son AFTER we read about him tying up loose ends in Tethyr. I’m greedy.
Paperback of Shadows in the Darkness.
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 16:20:17
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Originally posted by Jindael
I’m going to just list, in general, what I would love to see come out of your pen. In order of preference:
The whole Tree of Life (Tree of …something) thing that is supposed to be planted elsewhere for the elves. This is a huge one.
I hated backing out of this story, which I was planning to write for the Realms of the Elves anthology. Perhaps I'll get back to it some day.
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Liriel and a “kick-ass elven sisterhood.” series of novels. Throughout her series, she was focused on the windwalker. I’d like to see what she’s up to now that she can cut loose. Also, I think it would do FR good to have a group of non-chosen women whose kung-fu is strong. Kendal Leafblower should hang with them. Because he’s cool.
This is less likely to occur. My guess (emphasis on GUESS, as I'm a clueless freelance writer and not a WotC employee...) is that enough with the drow already. Kendal Leafbower is high on my list of secondary characters I'd like to revisit in a short story.
And by the way, wouldn't that be a great anthology theme? "Realms of the Second Bananas," or some such. WotC could even do a popularity poll, as as was done for Best of the Realms Vol. I, and ask readers what side-kicks they'd like to see revisited.
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Elaith returning to the haunted Craulnober keep AND finding out that he has a son AFTER we read about him tying up loose ends in Tethyr. I’m greedy.
I pretty much made up my mind during this exchange that I would write the short story. The Tethyr novel is unlikely to occurr--I'm pretty sure that the Songs & Swords series has run its course.
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Paperback of Shadows in the Darkness.
Finally, something I can respond to with a definite answer! The paperback will be released in February 2006, to coincide with the hardcover release of the sequel, Shadows in the Starlight. I just got a note from an editor at Tor asking if I had any corrections to the hardcover edition, so I'll be rereading the book next week to look for errors. If you spotted any, drop me an email! |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 16:47:58
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Jindael
I’m going to just list, in general, what I would love to see come out of your pen. In order of preference:
The whole Tree of Life (Tree of …something) thing that is supposed to be planted elsewhere for the elves. This is a huge one.
I hated backing out of this story, which I was planning to write for the Realms of the Elves anthology. Perhaps I'll get back to it some day.
You not being in the Realms of the Elves is like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without peanut butter. Or Jelly.
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Jindael
[br Liriel and a “kick-ass elven sisterhood.” series of novels. Throughout her series, she was focused on the windwalker. I’d like to see what she’s up to now that she can cut loose. Also, I think it would do FR good to have a group of non-chosen women whose kung-fu is strong. Kendal Leafblower should hang with them. Because he’s cool.
This is less likely to occur. My guess (emphasis on GUESS, as I'm a clueless freelance writer and not a WotC employee...) is that enough with the drow already. Kendal Leafbower is high on my list of secondary characters I'd like to revisit in a short story.
And by the way, wouldn't that be a great anthology theme? "Realms of the Second Bananas," or some such. WotC could even do a popularity poll, as as was done for Best of the Realms Vol. I, and ask readers what side-kicks they'd like to see revisited.
I was under the impression that WoTC was keeping drow out of the works because of the War of the Spider Queen books. Now that they are over, I was hoping to see more drow from other authors besides RAS. But, what do I know. I’m not even a freelance author. I’m just a clueless fan. ^_^
And what’s going to happen to all those second bananas without a hero nearby? They will all be hanging from a fraying rope while the villain flees, with no hero to give up the chase to save them, that’s where. Might be a very grim book. =P
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Jindael
[br Elaith returning to the haunted Craulnober keep AND finding out that he has a son AFTER we read about him tying up loose ends in Tethyr. I’m greedy.
I pretty much made up my mind during this exchange that I would write the short story. The Tethyr novel is unlikely to occurr--I'm pretty sure that the Songs & Swords series has run its course.
I’m looking forward to it!
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Jindael
[br Paperback of Shadows in the Darkness.
Finally, something I can respond to with a definite answer! The paperback will be released in February 2006, to coincide with the hardcover release of the sequel, Shadows in the Starlight. I just got a note from an editor at Tor asking if I had any corrections to the hardcover edition, so I'll be rereading the book next week to look for errors. If you spotted any, drop me an email!
If I find any, I will, once I get a paperback copy. I’m happy when a writer I like can sell hardbacks, but my reading budget can’t afford them. I make about 3 exceptions a year. And you’ve already got one with the Waterdeep novel.
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 17:10:11
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Originally posted by Jindael
If I find any, I will, once I get a paperback copy. I’m happy when a writer I like can sell hardbacks, but my reading budget can’t afford them. I make about 3 exceptions a year. And you’ve already got one with the Waterdeep novel.
Fair enough. Hopefully there will BE no errors in the paperback edition, but just to be on the safe side, don't look too hard.... |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 17:19:17
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Originally posted by Jindael
And what’s going to happen to all those second bananas without a hero nearby? They will all be hanging from a fraying rope while the villain flees, with no hero to give up the chase to save them, that’s where. Might be a very grim book.
Oh, I don't know about that. Ivan and Pikel Bouldershoulder seem to be able to hold their own, and any story about these two would be anything but grim. Elminster's scribe, Lhao, certainly made good.
Silver Shadows is full of secondary characters that could support a short story. Kendal Leafbower and Jill aren't a bad team. According to the game product "Lands of Intrique," Foxfire became a diplomat. Ferret's adventures as a courtesan/assassin might be worth a tale. Hasheth is an ambitious and unscrupulous youth determined to work his way up in the Knights of the Shield organization. And that's just one book. The Realms is full of warriors and barmaids and farmers and dock hands who have small but interesting tales to tell. |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 17:31:16
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Jindael
And what’s going to happen to all those second bananas without a hero nearby? They will all be hanging from a fraying rope while the villain flees, with no hero to give up the chase to save them, that’s where. Might be a very grim book.
Oh, I don't know about that. Ivan and Pikel Bouldershoulder seem to be able to hold their own, and any story about these two would be anything but grim. Elminster's scribe, Lhao, certainly made good.
Silver Shadows is full of secondary characters that could support a short story. Kendal Leafbower and Jill aren't a bad team. According to the game product "Lands of Intrique," Foxfire became a diplomat. Ferret's adventures as a courtesan/assassin might be worth a tale. Hasheth is an ambitious and unscrupulous youth determined to work his way up in the Knights of the Shield organization. And that's just one book. The Realms is full of warriors and barmaids and farmers and dock hands who have small but interesting tales to tell.
I know, I was just trying to make a joke, and I failed.
I thought that I remembered reading, back on the WoTC boards, that you decided Jill was a one trick pony? I thought they were a great team as well, but I saw your point. have you reconsidered? |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 17:39:37
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Originally posted by Jindael
I know, I was just trying to make a joke, and I failed.
I thought that I remembered reading, back on the WoTC boards, that you decided Jill was a one trick pony? I thought they were a great team as well, but I saw your point. have you reconsidered?
No, I caught the humor. My response was along the lines of "yes, but..."
Jill IS a one-trick pony, and I don't think he and Kendal could sustain a novel, but a short story might be fun. |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 17:57:04
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Another short story? Soon you’re going to need to have an anthology.
Which is a brilliant idea. *pats self on back* I’m glad I thought of that. THAT is what I want. You could even recycle the (exceptional) story about Liriel’s coming of age. And I’ve missed a few dragon magazines (er..since about 1992 >.<) So reprinting those would be fantastic! Your halfway done! It’s like free money!
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 18:09:37
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Originally posted by Jindael
Another short story? Soon you’re going to need to have an anthology.
Which is a brilliant idea. *pats self on back* I’m glad I thought of that. THAT is what I want. You could even recycle the (exceptional) story about Liriel’s coming of age. And I’ve missed a few dragon magazines (er..since about 1992 >.<) So reprinting those would be fantastic! Your halfway done! It’s like free money!
WotC is doing something like that with Ed Greenwood's stories. The Best of Eddie was recently released, and has been discussed in other threads on this forum.
Liriel's coming of age story has already been recycled; "Rite of Blood" appeared in Best of the Realms Book I. There are a couple of Dragon Magazine stories I wouldn't mind seeing back in print, though, and some, but not all, of the tales from the early "Realms of..." anthologies. Who knows? That said, I certainly wouldn't point to Best of Eddie as a portent of things in store for other FR writers. Where the Realms is concerned, Ed is on a level all his own. :) |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 18:30:35
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Jindael
Another short story? Soon you’re going to need to have an anthology.
Which is a brilliant idea. *pats self on back* I’m glad I thought of that. THAT is what I want. You could even recycle the (exceptional) story about Liriel’s coming of age. And I’ve missed a few dragon magazines (er..since about 1992 >.<) So reprinting those would be fantastic! Your halfway done! It’s like free money!
WotC is doing something like that with Ed Greenwood's stories. The Best of Eddie was recently released, and has been discussed in other threads on this forum.
Liriel's coming of age story has already been recycled; "Rite of Blood" appeared in Best of the Realms Book I. There are a couple of Dragon Magazine stories I wouldn't mind seeing back in print, though, and some, but not all, of the tales from the early "Realms of..." anthologies. Who knows? That said, I certainly wouldn't point to Best of Eddie as a portent of things in store for other FR writers. Where the Realms is concerned, Ed is on a level all his own. :)
I just picked up my copy of best of Ed last night. ^_^ And, while, yes, Ed Greenwood is in his er...own realm, it should smooth the path towards other authors, especially prolific ones like yourself, getting a "Best of...", or at least "Collected tales of...", assuming best of Ed sells well.
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ode904
Learned Scribe
Finland
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 19:39:18
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Same thing with Halruaa--no plans to continue Matteo and Tzigone's story.
I quess they are characters of (not here in FInland published) Counselors and Kings?
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 20:28:44
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Originally posted by ode904
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
Same thing with Halruaa--no plans to continue Matteo and Tzigone's story.
I quess they are characters of (not here in FInland published) Counselors and Kings?
That's right. |
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Naeryndam
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Posted - 06 Jul 2005 : 20:52:12
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No More Matteo ! |
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Anthor The Unforgiver
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| Matteo was cool. |
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Shadovar
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Posted - 07 Jul 2005 : 05:39:20
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| Pardon my asking, if the Author does not mind, will there a future new novel or new trilogy on Elaith The serpent himself? It would be good to see the rogue elf involved in some big Realm Shaking Event(RSE) and how the RSE stretches or tests Elaith skills, intellgence as a rogue to the extreme, for a change. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
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ode904
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 07 Jul 2005 : 08:53:46
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
At this time there are no plans to continue the Songs & Swords series, nor is there a novel about Elaith in progress (at least, none of which I'm aware...) And as much as I'd like to take credit for Elaith's creation, he first appeared as an NPC in a game product entitled "Waterdeep and the North," by Ed Greenwood. When I wrote ELFSHADOW, my first novel, I didn't realize Elaith was a well-established character in Ed's home campaign. As far as I knew, Elaith existed only as a one-paragraph description.
Here's a quote from page 32, when i hoped more of Elaith and asked does the Songs&Swords going to continue. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Jul 2005 : 23:38:31
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Dear Elaine,
I know this question has been asked way before, but I couldn't find it in the previous posts I scan (welcoming anyone to tell me if there was an answer). Who kind of elf was Shannada (sp - at work, no book around) supposed to be in the third installment of the Starlight and Shadows book?
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Jul 2005 : 23:46:28
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Dear Elaine,
I know this question has been asked way before, but I couldn't find it in the previous posts I scan (welcoming anyone to tell me if there was an answer). Who kind of elf was Shannada (sp - at work, no book around) supposed to be in the third installment of the Starlight and Shadows book?
C-Fb
Star Elf from Unapproachable East, if I recall right. :) |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Jul 2005 : 23:55:56
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You are a true font of knowledge, Kuje. Ever thought of applying to the faithful of Deneir in your off time?
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