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Knightfall
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 15 Jul 2013 : 16:51:31
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Does anyone have an index of all the Forgotten Realms NPCs that appear in officially published sourcebooks for D&D v.3.0 and v.3.5? I'm mainly concerned with NPCs that have full write-ups, as the one for Elminster on p. 7 of the FRCS.
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Knightfall
Learned Scribe
Canada
148 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 18:45:24
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 18:56:05
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| Started work on compiling all of these into a pdf awhile ago...along with older FR NPCs that were not brought forward. Once it is done, I will let you know. |
Now plugging away on mass conversion to 5e, as well as my imprint J. Halk Games.
http://www.facebook.com/JHalkGames
First adventure on DM Guild: Lair of Elaacrimalicros |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 20:40:49
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Originally posted by Joebing
Started work on compiling all of these into a pdf awhile ago...along with older FR NPCs that were not brought forward. Once it is done, I will let you know.
I made screenshot PDFs of the Realms NPC threads on WotC (after they started "archiving" stuff to make sure I didn't lose them). I could send you copies, if you want. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 20:43:16
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
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Originally posted by Joebing
Started work on compiling all of these into a pdf awhile ago...along with older FR NPCs that were not brought forward. Once it is done, I will let you know.
I made screenshot PDFs of the Realms NPC threads on WotC (after they started "archiving" stuff to make sure I didn't lose them). I could send you copies, if you want.
Let me go through my files and make a list of what I have from there...I'll get back to you. Thanks. |
Now plugging away on mass conversion to 5e, as well as my imprint J. Halk Games.
http://www.facebook.com/JHalkGames
First adventure on DM Guild: Lair of Elaacrimalicros |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 23:24:19
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Uh, I did this years ago and Alaundo should have posted the file I made, but it only had NPC's from sourcebooks/Dragon/Dungeon.
If it never did get posted, I still have a copy of the Excel file if anyone wants it. :) Plus the 1e/2e version. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Edited by - Kuje on 16 Jul 2013 23:26:39 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2013 : 23:44:54
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Originally posted by Kuje
Uh, I did this years ago and Alaundo should have posted the file I made, but it only had NPC's from sourcebooks/Dragon/Dungeon.
If it never did get posted, I still have a copy of the Excel file if anyone wants it. :) Plus the 1e/2e version.
I'd not mind getting that file again, friend Kuje. I can even post it on me own website to share out, if you no longer have that option yourself.  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 00:59:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd not mind getting that file again, friend Kuje. I can even post it on me own website to share out, if you no longer have that option yourself.
Sure, that would work. I could probably host it but meh, I don't have much time to code up a web page again or find a hosting site.
Sent you a PM also. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 04:02:52
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Originally posted by Kuje
Uh, I did this years ago and Alaundo should have posted the file I made, but it only had NPC's from sourcebooks/Dragon/Dungeon.
If it never did get posted, I still have a copy of the Excel file if anyone wants it. :) Plus the 1e/2e version.
I wouldn't mind that either Kuje...would help a lot. |
Now plugging away on mass conversion to 5e, as well as my imprint J. Halk Games.
http://www.facebook.com/JHalkGames
First adventure on DM Guild: Lair of Elaacrimalicros |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Knightfall
Learned Scribe
Canada
148 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 07:31:39
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Originally posted by Kuje
Uh, I did this years ago and Alaundo should have posted the file I made, but it only had NPC's from sourcebooks/Dragon/Dungeon.
If it never did get posted, I still have a copy of the Excel file if anyone wants it. :) Plus the 1e/2e version.
Someone provided me that link over on The Piazza. It's a great looking file. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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7915 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 12:03:58
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| Thanks. :) Wooly also has my 1e/2e version, so maybe he'll throw that up as well. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
2421 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 14:20:46
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| It's kind of weirdly organized, though - no headers, but with identical entries from different sources and every kit taken to a separate page. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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7915 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 17:57:05
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Which one the 1e/2e one? It was the easiest way for me to figure out how to organize those hundreds of NPC's. It's by class and level... The 3e one is alphabetical.... And yes, the 3e one has all the sources listed since many NPC's changed from sourcebook to sourcebook.
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It's kind of weirdly organized, though - no headers, but with identical entries from different sources and every kit taken to a separate page.
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For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Edited by - Kuje on 17 Jul 2013 17:58:45 |
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Knightfall
Learned Scribe
Canada
148 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 18:07:58
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Originally posted by Kuje
And yes, the 3e one has all the sources listed since many NPC's changed from sourcebook to sourcebook.
The only thing else I wish it had are source page numbers. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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7915 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 18:22:41
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Oh. Yea. I could have put those in. Never crossed my mind to do that when I made it about seven years ago now. :)
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Originally posted by Knightfall
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Originally posted by Kuje
And yes, the 3e one has all the sources listed since many NPC's changed from sourcebook to sourcebook.
The only thing else I wish it had are source page numbers.
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For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Emma Drake
Learned Scribe
USA
206 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 19:31:57
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I was having a discussion recently about where the "blind spots" are in terms of FR products and I brought up that the world is so rich with NPCs, but you often have to have read all of the source books (and remember exactly where to find which NPCs!) or you don't realize (or recall) what you have to work with, as a DM. We threw around the idea of hosting a website where we would, over time, hope to build an encyclopedic resource of Realms NPCs. Then I brought up the idea of copyright and the conversation died, since no one really seemed to know if such a thing was possible when most of the material is copyrighted. I know, for example, that wikipedia has to be careful to paraphrase and cite material. But Ashe's signature leads to an index that references forum posts on the wizards website with what I thought would be copyrighted NPC builds (though some are unofficial builds, I think?).
Does anyone know how this works? What is allowed and what isn't? |
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Edited by - Emma Drake on 17 Jul 2013 19:34:26 |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2013 : 21:08:25
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To be honest, this always worried me when I created those documents and it still does. Wizards could have a large problem with those excel files if they wanted to since it contains almost every NPC up to 4e, except for the material I don't own (which isn't that much). It was another reason why I kind of summarized instead of putting in a lot of information.
So really, I don't have an answer but it's always been something I've worried over.
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Originally posted by Emma Drake
I was having a discussion recently about where the "blind spots" are in terms of FR products and I brought up that the world is so rich with NPCs, but you often have to have read all of the source books (and remember exactly where to find which NPCs!) or you don't realize (or recall) what you have to work with, as a DM. We threw around the idea of hosting a website where we would, over time, hope to build an encyclopedic resource of Realms NPCs. Then I brought up the idea of copyright and the conversation died, since no one really seemed to know if such a thing was possible when most of the material is copyrighted. I know, for example, that wikipedia has to be careful to paraphrase and cite material. But Ashe's signature leads to an index that references forum posts on the wizards website with what I thought would be copyrighted NPC builds (though some are unofficial builds, I think?).
Does anyone know how this works? What is allowed and what isn't?
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For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1270 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 03:30:39
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That's some amazing work, Kuje. I now have a terrific offline resource for such things.
I am kind of surprised nobody mentioned this site. I found it in a Google search ages ago and is a great resource for all things Realms and 3E. As far as NPC's go, it doesn't list page numbers, but if you click the NPC name, it does list the sourcebook or magazine issue. |
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I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
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Green Giant
Seeker
USA
63 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 16:06:40
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I had forgotten about Ashe's work in creating a linked index to those threads. If I haven't said it, thanks for all the work.
I kinda wish I had the time now to go back and update some of the old stats. Maybe convert them to Pathfinder. But I doubt I'd be able to post them. |
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Emma Drake
Learned Scribe
USA
206 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 16:13:24
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Originally posted by Green Giant
I had forgotten about Ashe's work in creating a linked index to those threads. If I haven't said it, thanks for all the work.
I kinda wish I had the time now to go back and update some of the old stats. Maybe convert them to Pathfinder. But I doubt I'd be able to post them.
This is a little off-topic, but I clicked on the first link in your signature and noticed that you preface with saying that WoTC banned the discussion of novels on their boards? Is that because there was just too much flaming? Is that still the case? |
"I am always here, all about you. You are never truly alone. I flow wherever life flows, wherever winds blow and water runs and the sun and moon chase each other, for there is magic in all things."
- Mystra (Ed Greenwood, Silverfall) |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 16:15:21
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Originally posted by Emma Drake
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Originally posted by Green Giant
I had forgotten about Ashe's work in creating a linked index to those threads. If I haven't said it, thanks for all the work.
I kinda wish I had the time now to go back and update some of the old stats. Maybe convert them to Pathfinder. But I doubt I'd be able to post them.
This is a little off-topic, but I clicked on the first link in your signature and noticed that you preface with saying that WoTC banned the discussion of novels on their boards? Is that because there was just too much flaming? Is that still the case?
Heh... old quotes. No one is really sure WHY they banned novel discussions, but there were a lot of people that would complain about RSE's and such. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 16:17:26
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Originally posted by Green Giant
I had forgotten about Ashe's work in creating a linked index to those threads. If I haven't said it, thanks for all the work.
I kinda wish I had the time now to go back and update some of the old stats. Maybe convert them to Pathfinder. But I doubt I'd be able to post them.
*cough*my current project*cough*
I'm actually putting them into Hero Labs so I can get "Stock Hero" files together for download. Although, because there's no Epic-level in Pathfinder, I'm waiting on the release of there Mythic rules to update characters like Elminster, the Seven Sisters, and Szass Tam. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Emma Drake
Learned Scribe
USA
206 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 16:20:38
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
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Originally posted by Green Giant
I had forgotten about Ashe's work in creating a linked index to those threads. If I haven't said it, thanks for all the work.
I kinda wish I had the time now to go back and update some of the old stats. Maybe convert them to Pathfinder. But I doubt I'd be able to post them.
*cough*my current project*cough*
I'm actually putting them into Hero Labs so I can get "Stock Hero" files together for download. Although, because there's no Epic-level in Pathfinder, I'm waiting on the release of there Mythic rules to update characters like Elminster, the Seven Sisters, and Szass Tam.
I posted earlier a question about copyright issues. Since this seems to be a big hobby for you, what do you know about that? |
"I am always here, all about you. You are never truly alone. I flow wherever life flows, wherever winds blow and water runs and the sun and moon chase each other, for there is magic in all things."
- Mystra (Ed Greenwood, Silverfall) |
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Green Giant
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 16:40:29
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Originally posted by Emma Drake
This is a little off-topic, but I clicked on the first link in your signature and noticed that you preface with saying that WoTC banned the discussion of novels on their boards? Is that because there was just too much flaming? Is that still the case?
WizO Big Sister put in that preface. And yes, there was a lot of flaming and attacks on the authors going on in the novel forum. It got so bad they closed that forum and banned any novel discussions. I'm not sure if the ban is still in effect but I wouldn't take the chance.
Besides the CK forum is a better place to have a discussion on FR novels and sometimes the authors post themselves. |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 17:01:52
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Originally posted by Kuje
Which one the 1e/2e one? It was the easiest way for me to figure out how to organize those hundreds of NPC's. It's by class and level...
As a result, it's either you already know where, or auto-search. I.e. they effectively aren't organized in a meaningful way. A cool collection, but it ends up just spread into separate jars semi-randomly.
A worse problem is that you equal kits to classes, and that's plain wrong. Kits are not unambiguous - e.g. there can be Fighter (Swashbuckler) and Thief (Swashbuckler). And maybe even Paladin (Swashbuckler), who knows?
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Originally posted by Knightfall
The only thing else I wish it had are source page numbers.
Can be supplemented with Candlekeep's FR Index, though.
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Originally posted by Delwa
I am kind of surprised nobody mentioned this site.
It's helpful sometimes, but it got a lot of material on a few subjects, rather than a little on many.
Kuje's collection is an index, this one isn't. |
People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch |
Edited by - TBeholder on 18 Jul 2013 17:42:08 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 17:09:48
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
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Originally posted by Emma Drake
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Originally posted by Green Giant
I had forgotten about Ashe's work in creating a linked index to those threads. If I haven't said it, thanks for all the work.
I kinda wish I had the time now to go back and update some of the old stats. Maybe convert them to Pathfinder. But I doubt I'd be able to post them.
This is a little off-topic, but I clicked on the first link in your signature and noticed that you preface with saying that WoTC banned the discussion of novels on their boards? Is that because there was just too much flaming? Is that still the case?
Heh... old quotes. No one is really sure WHY they banned novel discussions, but there were a lot of people that would complain about RSE's and such.
And they were very zealous in enforcing that ban -- even discussing the possibility of a particular person writing a novel was enough to get an official warning. I know this from personal experience.
It was so bad that I joked about "novel" being the "n-word" over there.
I believe the ban has long since been lifted, but I won't go back to those forums, so I don't know. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 17:26:26
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Originally posted by Emma Drake
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
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Originally posted by Green Giant
I had forgotten about Ashe's work in creating a linked index to those threads. If I haven't said it, thanks for all the work.
I kinda wish I had the time now to go back and update some of the old stats. Maybe convert them to Pathfinder. But I doubt I'd be able to post them.
*cough*my current project*cough*
I'm actually putting them into Hero Labs so I can get "Stock Hero" files together for download. Although, because there's no Epic-level in Pathfinder, I'm waiting on the release of there Mythic rules to update characters like Elminster, the Seven Sisters, and Szass Tam.
I posted earlier a question about copyright issues. Since this seems to be a big hobby for you, what do you know about that?
I know that I won't be distributing the files. I'm creating them for personal use and, if some friends would like a copy, I'll consider it. The portfolio NPCs in Hero Labs even have a section where you can list the source for the NPC, but I don't trust Wizbro's stance on copyright material to make them free to anyone that wants them. Heck, I stopped putting my Pathfinder versions of NPCs on the boards because they have it in the Terms of Service on the forums that any material posted there, unless copyrighted elsewhere, is their property that they can do with what they want (I don't know if this is still the case since it's been years since I've been on, though). |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2013 : 17:32:36
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Originally posted by Emma Drake
We threw around the idea of hosting a website where we would, over time, hope to build an encyclopedic resource of Realms NPCs. Then I brought up the idea of copyright and the conversation died, since no one really seemed to know if such a thing was possible when most of the material is copyrighted.
The Forgotten Realms wiki is doing this in the form of category lists for all kinds of NPCs, along with citations where you can find the NPC.
Follow this link to Elminster's page on the wiki, then scroll down to the bottom for the list of categories he's a part of to get an idea of how they organize things.
This may not be quite what you're after, but it's close.
As for novels on the WotC forums, the WotC novels book club is going strong. You'll find established Realms authors posting there too. |
Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
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