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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
 Posted - 02 Feb 2004 : 14:49:42
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I fear you may be mistaken my dark friend. Carceri is the plane of Exile, the Prison plane of the multiverse. Although not unheard of, I question the logic of a deity making his home upon the prison plane.
Perhaps you mean one of the Layers of the Abyss, Carceri is it's own plane. Where is the The Sage when he is needed? I'm just he could clear up this little mix up, but anyways, Carceri is a plane where souls are held for crimes comitted in life ( not true crimes like murder or anything), crimes that are founded upon betrayal and selfishness. The lower planes are as follows: Acheron, Nine Hells, Gehenna, Hades, Carceri, the Abyss, and Pandemonium.  |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2004 : 16:31:54
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In 2e, Vhaerun's realm is indeed hidden on Carceri. For most beings, Carceri is a "prison plane", but others seem to thrive there...
I refuse to acknowledge that Faerun was torn out of Planescape, so in my mind Vhaerun is still there, perhaps with a small realm in the Demonwebs to comply with an arbitrary rule set forth by "Ao". |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2004 : 17:21:46
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Ah, of that I was Unaware. I am unfortuneatly lacking in 2e materials... WHY'D WOTC HAVE GO AND CHANGE A GREAT MULTIVERSE THOUGH?!?! It seems it was far more wide spread than it is now... |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2004 : 10:55:27
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Imagine Cult_Leader and Cardinal Deimos getting together. Don't they make a great pair? I know there's going to be loads of fireworks. *HIDES* |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2004 : 17:22:33
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Originally posted by Cult_Leader
Out of the D&D chars including gods and such, who all do you think would make the best couple?
As someone pointed out to me last night...the end of Silverfall makes one ponder what a coupling of Elaith Craulnober and Qilue Veladorn would be like.
I wonder if that would qualify as a Realms shattering event. |
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
121 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2004 : 17:45:20
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| I GOT IT!! Entreri and... Oh wait... No he dosnt love anyone... Damn >.< Id sady Shar and Mask, Cyric would be awful choice with Shar.. Shar would have to lay the smack down every night when Cyric comes home from intriguing the hell out of Faerun... I can see it now "CYRIC!!! YOU FORGOT TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH THIS MORNING!!!"... (Cyric sighs) "Yes dear..." "Just cause Im the goddess of forgetfullness dosnt mean Im going to forget to nag you!! Now get your @$$ in gear Mr. or Im kicking you out!!" |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2004 : 16:37:01
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| Aww Lina I thought you and I could make a good item! *wink wink* hehe, anyway, I doubt we would make a good couple anyway. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 11 Feb 2004 : 17:52:03
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| as they say lol, that was funney Arteris, but they are a perfect coupel tough.... |
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2004 : 02:28:59
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Originally posted by Cult_Leader
Aww Lina I thought you and I could make a good item! *wink wink* hehe, anyway, I doubt we would make a good couple anyway.
I'd have to agree with you there. There's no way someone like you has got a shot with me. |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
-Oglar the Thieflord |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2004 : 08:01:33
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Just a little vain aren't you Lina?  |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
469 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2004 : 03:57:11
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Originally posted by Cardinal Deimos
Just a little vain aren't you Lina?
Can't you tell we were just messing around Cardinal. I'm surprised you took me seriously since Cult_Leader doesn't. |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
-Oglar the Thieflord |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2004 : 04:28:04
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It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 15:30:15
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Yeah she is just a sily drow female *snickers* Nah, I ment me and card being a good couple  *makes te drow marry him so he can like, uhhh..... ermmm.... have connections in the underdark. MWAHAHAHAH* |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
I have the passwords to the minds of everyone and the cheat codes to the universe - Me |
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Xander Fang
Acolyte
USA
11 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2004 : 18:28:29
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| I always thought it would be nice if Lloth and Corellon Larethian got back together. Or maybe even Drizzt and Mielikki, now that would be the ultimate way to serving your god. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 05:43:46
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Originally posted by Xander Fang
I always thought it would be nice if Lloth and Corellon Larethian got back together.
Egads, talk about a Realms Shaking Event. I never thought I would hear that proposal. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 05:52:43
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| Huh, that wouldn't be as bad as Vhaeraun dating Sehanine Moonbow..... They have a longstanding hatred of each other, you know...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 05:58:26
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Huh, that wouldn't be as bad as Vhaeraun dating Sehanine Moonbow..... They have a longstanding hatred of each other, you know......
No, but it would be as amazing if Vhaeraun and Eilistraee actually met and had a civil conversation together. To paraphrase a great line in Mongoose's Sheloth: City of the Drow: "What could be this dangerous master?"
"Family," was his reply. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2004 : 21:47:11
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Well, there's little hope for any civil conversations between those
two....
I recently made a module for NWN where Vhaeraunites and Eilistraeens become embroiled in a war, and their deities' avatars actually make an appearance.... Extreme, yes, but I've wanted to do it for quite a while....... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 00:06:53
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
I recently made a module for NWN where Vhaeraunites and Eilistraeens become embroiled in a war, and their deities' avatars actually make an appearance.... Extreme, yes, but I've wanted to do it for quite a while.......
Interesting. An appearance where they faced each other or separate appearances? |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 01:28:19
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| Oh, my module had both deities facing off against each other while their mortal worshipers fought beside them. Like I said, extreme, yes, but it's extremely amusing.. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 04:14:32
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Oh, my module had both deities facing off against each other while their mortal worshipers fought beside them. Like I said, extreme, yes, but it's extremely amusing..
Dare I guess the outcome considering the creator's slight bias? |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 05:09:58
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Well, I don't want to spoil it, but the outcome is pretty much obvious....
Eilistraee's avatar is destroyed, her worshipers slain, and Vhaeraun is victorious! (Did you truly expect something else to happen? ) |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 16:39:28
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Eilistraee's avatar is destroyed, her worshipers slain, and Vhaeraun is victorious! (Did you truly expect something else to happen? )
No, the only thing missing is having Volo run up to Vhaeraun's avatar or one of his followers:
Volo: "You've just destroyed Eilistraee's avatar and her worshipers. What do you plan to do next?"
Disneyworld? Do they let in Vhaeraun followers there? |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2004 : 17:53:15
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| Haha! A perfect imitation of the Superbowl! (Minus the whole Janet Jackson incident.... "It was a wardrobe malfunction," She says.) |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2004 : 03:40:03
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Haha! A perfect imitation of the Superbowl! (Minus the whole Janet Jackson incident.... "It was a wardrobe malfunction," She says.)
I envision your idea of a wardrobe malfunction involving an Eilistraee follower being smothered by some material. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2004 : 22:32:49
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| Exactly! Sirius, I do believe you're starting to pick up my thought pattern..... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 08:08:05
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I haven't seen many 'love interests' mentioned for Lathander in either the books, or here at Candlekeep. Doesn't anyone here think the Morning Lord would be a good and commited partner in a relationship?.
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"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 16:26:08
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I haven't seen many 'love interests' mentioned for Lathander in either the books, or here at Candlekeep. Doesn't anyone here think the Morning Lord would be a good and commited partner in a relationship?.
If you can, check out the wonderful, Faiths and Avatars from 2nd edition. On page 90 of this work, there is the following
The churches of Chauntea and Lathandar have grown closer since the Time of Troubles, and rumors hold that Lathandar has been courting the favor of the Earthmother romantically as well as politically. |
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 18:30:10
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
I haven't seen many 'love interests' mentioned for Lathander in either the books, or here at Candlekeep. Doesn't anyone here think the Morning Lord would be a good and commited partner in a relationship?.
I don't think Lathander would be good at the whole "committment" thing. He would feel like he's in a rut, and seek other lovers to "rejuvinate" his life. Its his nature (there's a novel that illustrates this, but I forget the name). A lifetime of monogamy is one thing, but an eternity? It would take a special type of personality (Like Moradin And Berroner(sp)) to thrive in such a relationship. |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2004 : 19:04:36
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Helm was the best at that game, as he is all for the Duty given to him. Duty to his lover was all. It was that Wretched Lathander that Got Murdane(?), Helm's Lady love killed (Destroyed, sent to the astral to sleep, obliterated, disperced, etc) in the first place.
We do not like Lathander, and would not be happy to see him... happy... |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown |
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