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silverwolfer
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  05:31:59  Show Profile Send silverwolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Do you think mirt the moneylender, deserves to be a god of any sort , as far as how interesting the character is, and how long the sucker has lived due to good luck?

Dennis
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  09:49:49  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Being a god would probably just bore him. Unless he gets portfolios like Ladyluck and/or Sharess.

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Quale
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  11:07:34  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
More than Cyric, but so does half of Faerun.
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Lord Bane
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  12:34:11  Show Profile Send Lord Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree, more than Cyric, but a big NO. Mirt does not deserve to be a god.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  12:53:56  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I see no reason for Mirt to be a god. I don't see it as something he'd want, and I don't really see any reason for this to happen.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  13:24:26  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Better question. Does Mirt deserve a foursome involving an elf female, a Halfling female, and a half-orc female?

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Markustay
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  13:24:36  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No.

I was even a little annoyed when he reappeared in 4e. I realize he is Ed's original FR character... but I never really cared for him. Its okay that he came back, but he certainly shouldn't get an 'upgrade'.

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The Sage
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  15:08:39  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silverwolfer

Do you think mirt the moneylender, deserves to be a god of any sort , as far as how interesting the character is, and how long the sucker has lived due to good luck?

Personally, I think this would tend to undermine the special place Mirt has both in the Realmslore and in my mind.

As Ed has said, ... "the fat, wheezing, sly Mirt the Moneylender (take Shakespeare’s Falstaff, and add a dash of Poul Anderson’s Nicolas van Rijn and a handful of Glencannon), who’s crafty as they come but too old and slow for great heroics. In some of the tales, he teams up with Durnan, a “thinking-man’s Conan” (strong silent type who isn’t a barbarian ignorant of the lands he’s journeying through, but who, although sensitive, believes laws and authority are usually oppressive, and to be ignored whenever they get in the way)."

I think deity-ifying that would alter Mirt in very drastic ways.

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Thauranil
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  15:47:15  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I just dont see him as the Godly type, maybe a chaotic good demi god or something but frankly i don't think Mirt himself would be happy as a God and I certainly would not want to one of his worshipers.
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Arcanus
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  16:06:55  Show Profile  Visit Arcanus's Homepage Send Arcanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I never really cared for him. I find his continued good fortune in survival somewhat annoying and beyond belief.
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  16:22:27  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think he's lucky enough that you might conclude he's been blessed by a deity. But no, he shouldn't be one.

He does deserve his own novel. Heck, three novels. Throw in Durnan for one of those too.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  16:28:45  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Better question. Does Mirt deserve a foursome involving an elf female, a Halfling female, and a half-orc female?



Doesnt matter if he deserves it or not, he's probably already done that and more

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silverwolfer
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Posted - 28 May 2013 :  20:49:32  Show Profile Send silverwolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
okay I vote for this... RaS, and Greenwood for a Cadderly & Mirt book
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Emma Drake
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Posted - 29 May 2013 :  01:44:23  Show Profile  Visit Emma Drake's Homepage Send Emma Drake a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nah... nor do I think he'd want to be!

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Brimstone
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Posted - 29 May 2013 :  02:52:37  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No.

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scererar
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Posted - 29 May 2013 :  03:43:29  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I dig Mirt, but my thought would be no as well.
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Dennis
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Posted - 29 May 2013 :  06:08:54  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arcanus

I never really cared for him. I find his continued good fortune in survival somewhat annoying and beyond belief.
My first answer (that I deleted) was something like this. But I had to answer the OP's question, right?

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The Arcanamach
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Posted - 29 May 2013 :  09:31:05  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No.

I was even a little annoyed when he reappeared in 4e. I realize he is Ed's original FR character... but I never really cared for him. Its okay that he came back, but he certainly shouldn't get an 'upgrade'.

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I was a little annoyed as well. That said, I was also pleasantly surprised that he made the transition for the simple fact that I (almost) universally hated the changes made to the Realms and am glad to see the Old Wolf is still around. The same will hold true when the Companions of the Hall make their return...by all rights they should be dead and gone forever...yet I miss their stories.

As to the OPs question...No he shouldnt be a god. He just doesn't fit the bill IMHO, although I could (grudgingly) live with a sort of old school (as in 1e) quasi-deity status. But even that is pushing it.

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