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Paj
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Posted - 30 Dec 2012 :  13:55:11  Show Profile  Visit Paj's Homepage Send Paj a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
So, I'm running a 4e campaign set in 1375DR and my players have arrived at Baldurs Gate and are wanting to purchase a ship and sail the Sea of Swords looking for adventure.

I've been reading the DM Experience blog on the WOTC site and really like Chris Perkins idea of the Sea Kings. So have shamelessly stolen the premise!

I'm having some trouble fleshing out some of these Sea Kings. So I'm after a bit of crazy scribe-induced mayhem. Any help would be appreciated. I've written what I've come up with so far below:

The Sea Kings of the Sea of Swords

The leaders of trade consortiums and owners of fleets of ships, the self styled ‘Sea Kings of the Sea of Swords’ account for almost 80% of all ocean trade in the western heartlands. From Luskan in the north to the Amnish port of Murann in the south, one in every 7 ships is a Sea King vessel.

While ostensibly a group of law-abiding, peaceful people. Most know that the Sea Kings methods and goals are vastly different. The 7 Sea Kings have a constantly shifting set of truces, alliances and hostilities between them, and these change with each tide.

The true names of the Sea Kings aren’t known, only a moniker attached to each flag.

The 7 Sea Kings are:

Sea King Impstinger
Sea King Xan’toth
Sea King Kais
Sea King Elementor
Sea King Deepstaff
Sea King Stonewave
Sea King Baator
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Out of all of the Sea Kings, I've made a start of Deepstaff. He's going to be a Ancient Lich from a long-sunken city somewhere under the Sea of Moving Ice.

I was thinking of a Beholder for one and maybe some form of ancient genie for another but have run out of ideas.

Any thoughts?

- Paj

MisterX
Learned Scribe

Germany
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Posted - 30 Dec 2012 :  17:43:32  Show Profile Send MisterX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any Seaking could be a…

  • Merman

  • Sahuagin

  • Water-Elf

  • Dragon

  • Human

  • Aboleth

  • Demon

  • Devil (Baator is one of the nine hells, if i remember correctly



Have fun!

I've lost track of recent realmslore, since my campaigns are still in the 1370ies. :-)
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Markustay
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Posted - 30 Dec 2012 :  19:24:15  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
80% of all sea Trade = 1 in 7 ships?

You must also be using Chris Perkins Guide to Continuity.

Anyhow, the 'Sea Kings' idea sounds lifted right from Greyhawk. They have both the 'Sea princes' and the 'Sea Barons'. You could always go there for ideas (as he obviously did). It also doesn't sound all that different then what was going on in Luskan before, except now they've grown.

Sea King Concept: A miserly gnome who rides around in a harness on the back of an Ogre who is even stupider then usual. He basically uses the poor brute as a mount, and use a riding-crop on him when he makes a mistake (which happens often). Picture a midget Scrooge riding Sloth (from Goonies).

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 30 Dec 2012 :  20:06:51  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe Chris Perkins watched "The Pirate Movie" and lifte the idea from there? The movie was a "modern" (80's) version of the Pirates of Penzance, and had a "Pirate King" in it... (I've adapted that notion for my dark-elven empire of pirates, thieves, assassins, and such in my HB world).

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Markustay
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Posted - 31 Dec 2012 :  14:40:18  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You just reminded me, the PotC had 'Pirate Lords' and even elected a Pirate King as well. They had a nice, ethnically-mixed gathering - you could get some inspiration from there as well.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 01 Jan 2013 :  21:50:33  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lol, yeah, I liked that idea, and thought it was funny that they did the same thing I did(though mine pre-dates the movies)! So of course, I have shamelessly "borrowed" their version of it.

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The Arcanamach
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 :  03:49:01  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Sea King Concept: A miserly gnome who rides around in a harness on the back of an Ogre who is even stupider then usual. He basically uses the poor brute as a mount, and use a riding-crop on him when he makes a mistake (which happens often). Picture a midget Scrooge riding Sloth (from Goonies).


Um, you sure we shouldnt be thinking of Beyond Thunderdome instead?

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sleyvas
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 :  07:18:19  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wait, 1 in 7... 14.28%...... how'd they control 80% of shipping without sending the work elsewhere?

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BlackAce
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 :  09:49:01  Show Profile Send BlackAce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does sound a bit Manticore in reverse doesn't it? X amount of the cargoes hauled but only Y amount of the ships they travel in.
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Markustay
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 :  14:38:17  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Too many captains are made non-human just for the shock value (like that hill giant pirate that throws goblins). I'm thinking stay human for most of them, but use some templates (lycanthrope, undead, etc).

A treant would be truly bizarre, if you were into that sort of thing - maybe a willow or cypress (both water-loving species). Maybe good for a captain, but not so much for a 'Sea king'. Perhaps he fell in love with some seaweed when he was just a sapling....

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Originally posted by The Arcanamach

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Sea King Concept: A miserly gnome who rides around in a harness on the back of an Ogre who is even stupider then usual. He basically uses the poor brute as a mount, and use a riding-crop on him when he makes a mistake (which happens often). Picture a midget Scrooge riding Sloth (from Goonies).


Um, you sure we shouldnt be thinking of Beyond Thunderdome instead?

Never saw that movie - I only saw the first one. I just googled it and found a pic... funny.

I was actually thinking about a group of folk that appeared briefly in a Dying Earth story. They not only rode around on ginats as mounts, they ate them as well (they were the only 'livestock' those people kept).

So NO, not original, but also not from the source you pointed out (although I like that pic a lot.)

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Edited by - Markustay on 02 Jan 2013 14:39:42
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