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Saxmilian
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 02 Dec 2012 : 02:48:46
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Do Half-dragons gain the energy vulnerability of their parent-type? A RedHalf-dragon gain vulnerability to Cold? I dont see it anywhere in the Half-dragon description.
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Dec 2012 : 02:57:36
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| No. 3.5e half-dragons get the dragon type, so they're vulnerable to spells or items that work against dragons, but they don't get any energy vulnerability. |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Dec 2012 : 03:01:29
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| Edition matters for this question I would believe. Considering so many factors I do not believe the question can be answered from core rules, a splat book clearly might offer an answer. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Dec 2012 : 03:31:20
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It's not very complicated. Assuming that it's 3.5 (and I am, since there aren't any 2e half-reds), then you go by the description of the MM's half-dragon entry.
The vulnerability to elements comes from having a particular subtype, ie: reds have the Fire subtype. Half-dragons just get the dragon type, and no subtype, regardless of the parent. They could also get a vulnerability if it was mentioned in special qualities, but it isn't. So there isn't any vulnerability.
If it isn't mentioned in the description, it doesn't have it. No subtype or vulnerability is mentioned, so half-dragons don't have one. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Dec 2012 : 03:38:38
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| Oh, and on the off chance we're talking about 2e half-dragons, they don't get any vulnerabilities either. They don't necessarily get any immunities, that's a choice they make, but they don't get any vulnerability to anything (arguably not even dragon-targeting magic). |
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Saxmilian
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 Dec 2012 : 13:28:54
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| Well thanks for the tips, I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing anything. And I've got to remember to put 3.5 on my questions, LOL |
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Jakuta Khan
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 : 16:29:17
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| Are there ANY rules in 2e at all to create half-dragons?? |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 : 17:03:16
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| Yes. Half-metalics first show up in the Council of Wyrms setting. They get reprinted in Dragon #206, which includes rules for half-oriental dragons as well as introducing the drow-dragon. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 : 17:07:34
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| Indeed. I still prefer the original, 2E half-dragons, to the 3E version. The 3E version does have some nice abilities, but the special flavor 2E's half-dragons had was gone. Making the half-dragon template be applicable to anything makes dragons seem like a bunch of Zeus wannabes that will mate with anything that sits still long enough. |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 : 17:21:32
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| Agreed on the unfortunate implications of the template (and the way it was used in products), however I did like the power bump half-dragons got in 3e. The 2e half-dragons were very interesting creatures, but they weren't quite as powerful as the 3e versions, and most of it was developed over time. The 3e stuff was mostly front-loaded. Still, both were a great deal of fun. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 02 Jan 2013 : 18:18:32
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
Agreed on the unfortunate implications of the template (and the way it was used in products), however I did like the power bump half-dragons got in 3e. The 2e half-dragons were very interesting creatures, but they weren't quite as powerful as the 3e versions, and most of it was developed over time. The 3e stuff was mostly front-loaded. Still, both were a great deal of fun.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 : 02:08:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Indeed. I still prefer the original, 2E half-dragons, to the 3E version. The 3E version does have some nice abilities, but the special flavor 2E's half-dragons had was gone. Making the half-dragon template be applicable to anything makes dragons seem like a bunch of Zeus wannabes that will mate with anything that sits still long enough.
I remember populating parts of my Realms with significant numbers of half-dragons when I first learned of them in 2e lore. I even went so far as to connect they, through draconic lineage, with a longer-established family of half-dragons on Krynn.
Not-so-strangely, I didn't attempt the same with the 3e interpretation of half-dragons. |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 : 05:05:51
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| That's okay, Sage. I'm sure we've all had the occasional youthful lore indiscretion... |
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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Jan 2013 : 14:28:05
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
That's okay, Sage. I'm sure we've all had the occasional youthful lore indiscretion...
*The Sage snickers while reflecting about his youthful song dragon lore indiscretions.* |
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