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Naroon Shimmerflow
Learned Scribe

Norway
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  15:57:31  Show Profile Send Naroon Shimmerflow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

Originally posted by Reowyn
Well, I think Cyric had been no fool even he was utterly insane. He forfills his duties as a lord of murder and lies very well.
For me he and his kind is the reason of the existence of the good.
Don't forget evil destroys itself and good is too naive to be the victorious in even in a perfect world. Balance of the purest evil and the purest good is needed for survival.



Indeed Reowyn. But good prevails and as you say evil destroy itself
Originally posted by Cherrn
quote:


Originally posted by Cyric

Bhaal deservce respect for just that killing

Im still amazed that a known Cyricist said someone was worthy of his god's respect. Sounds like a soft worshiper I think ]


I do agree Cherrn, i does not sound very good from a cyricist

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Edited by - Naroon Shimmerflow on 21 Jan 2004 15:58:59
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lowtech
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USA
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  17:27:34  Show Profile  Visit lowtech's Homepage Send lowtech a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wasn't impressed with the insane version of Cyric, but I kind of like the newest incarnation. It kind of reminds me of Loki...
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Cyric
Senior Scribe

Norway
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  20:27:05  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So true Roewyn and exept the killing all life they are kind of the same.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore

USA
1298 Posts

Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  20:30:02  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cyric, you mentioned my god burning in the Abyss? Hes already there, in a subplane called Carceri. You can do better.

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 22 Jan 2004 :  01:11:50  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadowlord

Cyric, you mentioned my god burning in the Abyss? Hes already there, in a subplane called Carceri. You can do better.


well met my friend...it seems Shadowlord just pointed out a mistake by the great Cyric...hmmm???

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Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

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I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage
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Cyric
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Norway
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Posted - 22 Jan 2004 :  14:00:04  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He live in the Abyss i would not think him worthy to souch a thing...
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore

USA
1298 Posts

Posted - 22 Jan 2004 :  20:36:42  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can you repeat that without the spelling and gramatical errors please?

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ezindir the dark
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Norway
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Posted - 22 Jan 2004 :  22:34:20  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Even tought it seemes that I always seemes too follow you this time I cant.
This is becose I think your post against Cyric was rather mean,
I mean he comes from a country (same as me) where the president says daybook instead of diary, so I think he acctually is doning pretty good.

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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  00:28:03  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ezindir the dark

I think he acctually is doning pretty good.

LOL

Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead

The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo

Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna

I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  00:48:25  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You are right, of course. Cyric, please accpet my most humble apologies. I understand that English is a second language for you and that you are trying your best. However, I have an A+ in my Language Arts class, and its kind of hard for me to understand bad grammar. My most sincere apologies.

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Naroon Shimmerflow
Learned Scribe

Norway
104 Posts

Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  05:03:50  Show Profile Send Naroon Shimmerflow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shadowlord do not make fun of our grammar and spelling, as Ezindir said english is a second lanuage to us.
Actually I don`t mind , self-irony is a very important thing

By the way, how many lanuages do you speak?

And just to keep the topic going; I don`t think Cyric is able to make an alliance with anyone, he is doomed to try to back stab them when he got what he needed, this makes him a not very high priority by other goods.


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Edited by - Naroon Shimmerflow on 23 Jan 2004 05:09:04
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  07:34:05  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed. Shadowlord, while you've certainly appologized properly, I'd like to point out a simple rule of thumb I use. If the person's ID box lists a country, I both assume that's where they're from and that the official language of that country is that person's primary language. If the country is one where English isn't a native language, I give the member a lot of tolerance for grammar and spelling (and especially for the latter, which I'm not so good at myself), and may help out some.

If, however, the person's country is Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, or the United States, I will hold them to a standard where the person actually writes without butchering the language. This includes careless spelling, grammar, and "chatspeak."

If the person's box lists no country, or a country where English is known but uses different rules (I've known a lot of Africans who speak English while using strange-sounding grammar as a standard), then I wait until I form a conclusion about them.

For instance, I've drawn the conclusion that Dracandos is American, and so hold him to the standards listed above. (Dracandos, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.) He prefers to write in chatspeak, and so doesn't meet my private standards, but I hold no power over him, so I don't attempt to change him beyond the occasional polite request.

A lot of people don't meet these standards, while many exceed them. I don't condemn them for the former, though; at the most, I'll ask them to change (in regards to chatspeak) or let them know when they're doing something wrong (in regards to those for whom English is a second language).

That said, Shadowlord, I am well aware of the fact that the standard language of this forum is English. I see no reason why you can't point out errors when needed -- so long as you do so in a polite form. I can tell that you meant no harm (the to end the post should conveyed that to all), though you could have phrased it better. Certainly anyone with top grades in an LA course should aid those who will let him; just make sure you don't insult those who could whup your hiny in their native language.



Now, to get this back on course -- Cyric sucks!

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Naroon Shimmerflow
Learned Scribe

Norway
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  14:14:19  Show Profile Send Naroon Shimmerflow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As bookwyrm pointed out, i dont think Shadowlord tried to be mean, and i hope people tell me if I have some bad grammar errors that I`m doing all the time

No hard feelings Shadowlord, my drow friend

Where are that Sehanine cleric you were talking about? You have to introduce me to her

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  14:30:08  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are also errors I think that do come becouse people just are too lazy too do a really look-over on their posts, this includes me. Errors like: doning(doing) or teh(the) I often have in my posts.

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Roewyn
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  22:31:35  Show Profile  Visit Roewyn's Homepage Send Roewyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ohh man, What's that?
Bookwyrm, I don't think noone writes better or worse than he or she speaks, don't teach people grammer it's not your duty to judge people's english as long as we understand eachother

Shadowlord sad he was sorry
but let's not forget that's -at least I believe- an international forum English is just a choosen way of communication
There was no reason to be arrogant and will not be.
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Cyric
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Norway
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  00:07:40  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So true some people write English bad some god, just as we understand one and other.
And what othere gods Cyric dont ned no other gods, Shar and Cyric are the future. And they are afraid of him, since very few gods are as powerful as Cyric.
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Bookwyrm
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USA
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  05:58:10  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Roewyn

ohh man, What's that?
Bookwyrm, I don't think noone writes better or worse than he or she speaks, don't teach people grammer it's not your duty to judge people's english as long as we understand eachother

Shadowlord sad he was sorry
but let's not forget that's -at least I believe- an international forum English is just a choosen way of communication
There was no reason to be arrogant and will not be.




Did you even read my post?

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Alaundo
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  10:02:29  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met

AHEM! I believe we were discussing the faults of........dare I utter his name.....Cyric!

Im sure no offence was meant here by any scribes, so lets get back to the topic.

Thank ye

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Roewyn
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  12:24:11  Show Profile  Visit Roewyn's Homepage Send Roewyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
[/quote]

Did you even read my post?
[/quote]

Yes indeed I read that but also another about Cyric's grammer mistakes, I remember you also did the same to Dracandos for a while ago. I may overreacted about your last post but it triggered me to protest your expertness on the linguistics.
Sorry Alaundo two posts way of the topic, it won't happen agian.
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mr.lee
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Norway
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  12:47:08  Show Profile  Visit mr.lee's Homepage Send mr.lee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look, Roewyn.... Do not make a fool of yourself! Who's got 4 posts, and who's got over 2600??? Just shut up and listen to the MASTER of Realmslore....
I agree with you bookwyrm...

-mr.lee



edit: Roewyn: info on how to quote:
Press the grey button over your textbox that says quote. (Sheet of paper + red arrow) Press the Ibutton, and insert Originally posted by <Username>. Then you can paste in your answer......
Tip: hit "Preview" before you post the message, so you can be sure you got it right!

If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was.

Edited by - mr.lee on 24 Jan 2004 13:00:13
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Roewyn
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  13:21:12  Show Profile  Visit Roewyn's Homepage Send Roewyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mr.lee

Look, Roewyn.... Do not make a fool of yourself! Who's got 4 posts, and who's got over 2600??? Just shut up and listen to the MASTER of Realmslore....
I agree with you bookwyrm...

-mr.lee


Mr Lee I may have 4 posts but when I have sth to say, I just say it. Number of posts count only for his or her knowlage about realms. I know Bookwyrm is one of the best on realms lore in Candlekeep but I won't swallow my words because of anything
Respect is important and I did not insult anyone when I put my argument so you better show some respect too.

Well I meant that Cyric wants no ally stronger than him, I believe ,for he wants to be no puppet.And Shar is obviously after some secret schemes and may use Cyric for her cause if Cyric thinks the terms are for his good also, he may participate.But I think that the only alliance will be against Mystra and that might lead to a new god's war.
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Cyric
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Norway
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  16:57:25  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hope so then all wil se that Cyric is all powerful and wil crush all of his foes. And Roewyn finaley a soul who understand a bit about Cyric and respect him.
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Arteris
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  18:41:35  Show Profile  Visit Arteris's Homepage Send Arteris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why would anyone respect an insane god?... I know I dont
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Roewyn
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  22:18:49  Show Profile  Visit Roewyn's Homepage Send Roewyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arteris

Why would anyone respect an insane god?... I know I dont


Everyone promising hope or fighting to do his or her duty deserves respect.
And I think everyone even mighty deities of heavens are for a greater cause.If there was no evil there would be no good too.
Guilty justifies the innocent.
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Cherrn
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Denmark
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  02:55:35  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That was very well said Roewyn. Indeed one who is prepared to die for another being deserves respect.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  07:02:24  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, Alaundo, if you object let me know, but this is (in my opinion) important to the functioning of these forums.



quote:
Originally posted by Roewyn


quote:

Did you even read my post?



Yes indeed I read that but also another about Cyric's grammer mistakes, I remember you also did the same to Dracandos for a while ago. I may overreacted about your last post but it triggered me to protest your expertness on the linguistics.



Protest my expertness on the linguistics? First, I've never claimed to be an expert. Second, you shouldn't protest someone for being an expert -- which, again, I'm not. I help out when people need it. It's what teachers do. You don't want to learn, fine, don't pay attention. Cyric didn't complain, did he? What right do you have to do so?

You did overreact. You acted as if I insulted Shadowlord (which I didn't), lectured everyone here about proper English (again, did not), and acted as if English is a superior language (which it is most certainly not). Next time, read carefully before making such insulting mistakes.



quote:
Originally posted by mr.lee

Look, Roewyn.... Do not make a fool of yourself! Who's got 4 posts, and who's got over 2600??? Just shut up and listen to the MASTER of Realmslore....
I agree with you bookwyrm...

-mr.lee



Thank you, Mr. Lee, but I'm afraid I have to set some things straight here as well.

Just because I have (at the time of this post) 2690 posts does not mean I know more than Roewyn. And don't take him to task for challenging a more "senior" scribe; not only did he do nothing wrong, I did a very similar thing at the start of my own stay here. The only thing Roewyn did wrong, in fact, was be rude. Excessively so, in my opinion, though I can understand where he might have felt justification (even though I disagree with said justification).

Additionally, I do not claim to be a master of Realmslore. That's simply the title given to scribes with over 2000 posts. Those who were here when that happened to me will recall I protested the title on those grounds.



quote:
Originally posted by Roewyn

[...] I won't swallow my words because of anything
Respect is important and I did not insult anyone when I put my argument so you better show some respect too.



That I disagree with. Not the first part -- that is to be commended, so long as you never make the mistake of not admitting mistakes. I've known far too many people like that.

What I disagree with is what I've already stated -- I think you were rude, for the reasons that again I have already stated. Respect is earned, not granted. Politeness is another thing entirely.



Now, I believe I've beaten this to death. Everyone please go back to the topic. Thank you.

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Cyric
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  16:11:33  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
you speak truth Reowyn, Cyric does his part.
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  17:04:45  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahem, I SAID I was sorry about the grammar....... And Naroon, the cleric of Corellon/Sehanine is having exams.....and was unable to log in lately.....

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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