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Shadowlord
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  03:22:48  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
In response to some posts I found in this scroll http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1450 (Please read the scroll first) I am starting The Faults of Cyric Thread. During the time that this scroll was written, I was indisposed with Vhaeraun's holy day, The Masked Lord's Embrace, but I am back with a vengeance!

There is no way that Cyric could take on the Seldarine, or even the Drow Deities of the Demonweb because he is utterly insane! He tries to create chaos and strife within his own chruch only! He's almost as bad as that spider-kisser Lolth! Ezinder the Dark, my loyal friend, was correct in this much. Cyric, it would be good if you visited this topic and defended your mad god, as you will probably be the only one who will.

If anyone has thoughts they would like to voice about Cyric(the deity, not the scribe), his faults, his mistakes, and so on, Please Post.


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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.

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Belfar
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  03:54:32  Show Profile Send Belfar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cyric is too chaotic and insane to carry out any effective evil schemes. Bayne could take him any day of the week (Not that I support Bayne at all, but I'm just stating a fact). Of course I dislike Cyric anyways. There are so many more gods to worship so why choose such an insane and unorganized god?
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Brother Ezra
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  04:05:15  Show Profile  Visit Brother Ezra's Homepage Send Brother Ezra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I personally found the whole Time of Troubles/avatar series silly and needlessly disruptive to a pantheon with which I had just become familiar. IMC Cyric does not exist. Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul are still in charge of their respective portfolios. I find them to be much more intriguing and effective gods than Beavis elevated to godhood.

On a side note, with the Avatar trilogy, how come Midnight, Cyric and Kelemvor get to become gods, but poor Adon is left out in the cold? Couldn't he have become the god of quality hair products or something?

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  04:30:27  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, I don't think so, Sune is already too pompous, but back on topic, I believe Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul are far more effective, and less insane, than Cyric.

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.

Edited by - Shadowlord on 19 Jan 2004 04:30:48
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Belfar
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  04:34:41  Show Profile Send Belfar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well if Bhaal hadn't have died we would never had experienced the game that is Baldur's Gate. So I guess thats 1 point for Cyric but then he loses a point for being Cyric so he is still at 0 points.
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  04:38:22  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like your points system....

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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mr.lee
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  06:53:46  Show Profile  Visit mr.lee's Homepage Send mr.lee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
haha, very good, belfar.

If I'd wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was.
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Cherrn
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  08:27:50  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cyric isn't insane anymore. His insanity was cured by Malik yn Sami el Nassr in "Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad". And while Cyric, judging by his divine rank in "Faiths and Pantheons", prolly would be able to kill most of the elven and drow pantheon in one on one fights he would be very hard pressed, and most likely killed, against Corellon.

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Naroon Shimmerflow
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  10:52:37  Show Profile Send Naroon Shimmerflow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with Belfar.

I think Cyric lost his cool looks, (if he ever had any) when Kelmvor took his portpholio ;Death. Kelemvor is just the coolest god of death ever. I love the "scene" when Mystra confess her love to the God Kelemvor and he answers; Noone should love death (or something like that, can`t quite remember the quote)and he just turn away, thats so cold


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Cherrn
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  16:14:54  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, one could argue if he really lost the death portfolio or if he just gave it up really. I remember reading in one of the books (can't remember which one) that Cyric didn't really care much for being god of the dead. Too much work and no play made Cyric a dull boy *casts protection from violated copyright laws*

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Belfar
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  16:55:10  Show Profile Send Belfar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kelemvor is up there with one of my favorite dieties. Its nice to have a nonevil god of death. I also like Helm and Lathander for my clerics whenever I play one. I'd put Helm, Kelemvor, and the Lathander as my favorite gods in that order. Although Helm and Kelenvor are tied as my favorite.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  17:28:03  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cherrn

Well, one could argue if he really lost the death portfolio or if he just gave it up really. I remember reading in one of the books (can't remember which one) that Cyric didn't really care much for being god of the dead. Too much work and no play made Cyric a dull boy *casts protection from violated copyright laws*

Wouldent be suprised if Cyric begun to run around an saying, "RedRoom" thought . And Belfar I think you should stay to the topic.

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Dracandos the Spellsage
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  18:27:22  Show Profile  Visit Dracandos the Spellsage's Homepage Send Dracandos the Spellsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
itll be amusing 2 c Cyric's reaction 2 all this

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The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo

Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster

Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna

I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  19:44:42  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, i fully expect that he'll rage on in here with a lecture about how Cyric is the one true power......

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  19:47:55  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes !!
And I do really look forward too that show.

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 19 Jan 2004 :  19:57:16  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As do I, my friend, as do I.......

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Cyric
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Posted - 20 Jan 2004 :  16:39:48  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
HOW DARE YOU OFFEND THE POWER OF THE ONE TRUE POWER OF ALL THINGS CYRIC COULD CRUSH ALL YOUR STUPID SELDARINE ONE BY ONE. and he is far more powerful then most of the elf gods onley one of them has a chanse Corellon larethian he is nearley as powerful as the one . And your weak god Vhaeraun are nothing compared to Cyric even mask could take him and the weak fool. And Cyric is the one and true power those of us who have read lords of darkness know that Shar have sen the glorys of Cyric and wil son ally her self with Cyric and make the most powerful force of evil that has ever walked the realms so weep, for the power of Cyric the one and all is on a rise. Malik yn Sami el Nassr is by the way a hero.
And Cyric is twice the god of strife then Bane ever was. Bhaal is a god worty of Cyric respect but Myrkul the Coward please he is nothing. And is there no other Cyric follower out there ?

Edited by - Cyric on 20 Jan 2004 20:16:50
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Brother Ezra
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Posted - 20 Jan 2004 :  17:37:30  Show Profile  Visit Brother Ezra's Homepage Send Brother Ezra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah! Finally Cyric's bulldog makes an appearance!

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 20 Jan 2004 :  18:22:14  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric

HOW DARE YOU OFFEND THE POWER OF THE ONE TRUE POWER OF ALL THINGS CYRIC COULD CRUSH ALL YOUR STUPID SELDARINE ONE BY ONE. and he is far more powerful then most of the elf gods onley one of them Corellon larethian. And your weak god Vhaeraun are nothing compared to Cyric even mask could take him and the weak fool. And Cyric is the one and true power those of us who have read lords of darkness know that Shar have sen the glorys of Cyric and wil son ally her self with Cyric and make the most powerful force of evil that has ever walked the realms so weep, for the power of Cyric the one and all is on a rise. Malik yn Sami el Nassr is by the way a hero.
And Cyric is twice the god of strife then Bane ever was. Bhaal is a god worty of Cyric respect but Myrkul the Coward please he is nothing. And is there no other Cyric follower out there ?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
There is always Cyric the insane.

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Cherrn
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Posted - 20 Jan 2004 :  19:18:02  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric

Bhaal is a god worty of Cyric respect


He is ? Why in the name of the Caliph would he be that ? Bhaal was a mindless killing machine whereas Cyric prefers the more discreet asassination now and then. I think Cyric would be most shocked that a man who claims to be a follower of his would say that another god was worthy of his respect. Really... You should know, as far as Cyric sees it, no one is worthy of his respect

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 20 Jan 2004 :  20:13:20  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric

HOW DARE YOU OFFEND THE POWER OF THE ONE TRUE POWER OF ALL THINGS CYRIC COULD CRUSH ALL YOUR STUPID SELDARINE ONE BY ONE. and he is far more powerful then most of the elf gods onley one of them Corellon larethian. And your weak god Vhaeraun are nothing compared to Cyric even mask could take him and the weak fool. And Cyric is the one and true power those of us who have read lords of darkness know that Shar have sen the glorys of Cyric and wil son ally her self with Cyric and make the most powerful force of evil that has ever walked the realms so weep, for the power of Cyric the one and all is on a rise. Malik yn Sami el Nassr is by the way a hero.
And Cyric is twice the god of strife then Bane ever was. Bhaal is a god worty of Cyric respect but Myrkul the Coward please he is nothing. And is there no other Cyric follower out there ?


I was wondering when you would make your entrance, Cyric. Cyric the Insane is another Cyric worshiper, but he'll not help you. YOUR GOD IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY INSANE!!! I DON'T CARE WHETHER HE WAS CURED OR NOT! IT HASN'T MADE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE ANYWAYS!

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 20 Jan 2004 :  21:57:43  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well said Shade, well said!!

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Shadowlord
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Posted - 20 Jan 2004 :  22:08:39  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you. I normally don't let myself loose like that, but Cyric really aggrevates me.....

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Arteris
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  04:38:12  Show Profile  Visit Arteris's Homepage Send Arteris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bah, Cyric.. The meglomaniacle diety.. Ah yes, hes the one who cant keep himself together, let alone his clergy.. Hes a weakling who by chance came upon a large ammount of power.. But then again Im sure they had to give those portfolios to SOME crazy fool.. Cyric seems to fit the bill
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  04:53:23  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you mean fits the bill as like insane, then yes, Arteris, you are correct.....

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Naroon Shimmerflow
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  09:32:44  Show Profile Send Naroon Shimmerflow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
HAHAHAH!! Cyric sounds just like the God Cyric.

I realy enjoy reading this topic, so much anger and evil

How are the battle going between cyric and Bane in Zentil keep?

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Cyric
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  11:43:43  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Infidels all of you,Shadowlord you and your weak god shal burn in the abyss. Cyric has complet control of his clergy he chose this way so his people may be free to follow there own agenda and not be bound to one man miles away and it is mouch harder to fight his clergy that way. And Bane is so going down in Zentile keep and if Cyric would lose he has other places but what about Bane lose that and he is dead. And Earned that power he stole it from those to weak to keep it. Bhaal deservce respect for just that killing. And Cyric has not one way of killing he just kills. And if you reade the book he was mouch better at the end of The trail of Cyric the one and all, long live The black sun
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Cyric
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  12:05:49  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And Cyric has no faults.
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Roewyn
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  13:27:17  Show Profile  Visit Roewyn's Homepage Send Roewyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hail to thee adventurers of the realms.
Salutations to all of ye.
Well, I think Cyric had been no fool even he was utterly insane. He forfills his duties as a lord of murder and lies very well.
For me he and his kind is the reason of the existence of the good.
Don't forget evil destroys itself and good is too naive to be the victorious in even in a perfect world. Balance of the purest evil and the purest good is needed for survival.
So keep up your best work, everyone. Your endless schemes are our greatest joy.

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Ezindir the dark
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  14:21:40  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric

And Cyric has no faults.

How blind it is possible to be?

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Cherrn
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Posted - 21 Jan 2004 :  15:31:31  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric

Bhaal deservce respect for just that killing.



Im still amazed that a known Cyricist said someone was worthy of his god's respect. Sounds like a soft worshiper I think

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