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tim3kgt
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 20:16:17
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The idea of director's cut for old supplements and adventures was brought up at the CandleKeep seminar @ GenCon12. I personally would like to see this show up in PDF form. I don't really want the extra expense of buying another hard-copy but I would certainly buy the e-version. Maybe even include some of the hand written or hand drawn maps and notes (provided they are legible).
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 20:30:55
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I'd love to see something simular for novels as well.
A director's cut of Spellfire??? Sign me up! Maps, doodles, notes...anything would be great. Like I said in another scroll, could form a great bridge between authors current work to the one we are waiting on. |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 20:39:44
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I suspect we're mostly looking at digital versions of products, and there may be a print on demand model available for those who really want paper.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
2396 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 20:53:06
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| I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :) |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 20:57:57
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
I hate to admit this....
But i would pay for that
Any way to get Elaine back in the realms, sign me up. |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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tim3kgt
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 20:59:31
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| i would purchase at any price, anything with the name Elaine Cunnigham on it. Please WOTC put her on SALARY!! |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 22:00:17
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| I would probably pay for "director's cuts" of any of the novels I love, but I just couldn't afford to re-buy all the hardcover supplements that I have purchased over the years. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
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* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36784 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 22:14:39
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
I would love to read it.  |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 23:41:00
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
I would love to read it.
I'd love to buy a bundle including that and Reclamation |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36784 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2012 : 23:51:41
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
I would love to read it.
I'd love to buy a bundle including that and Reclamation
Oh, it'd be great if things were tweaked in such a matter that Elaine could complete Reclamation. I'd love to read more about Arilyn and Danilo. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 01:54:47
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
So I'm assuming you already have some ideas on how you would expand on the final battle sequence.
Could you briefly share them here with us? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 01:56:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And the now-legendary original submission of Spellfire...
And Ed and Elaine's City of Splendors too, while we're talking about it. Since we know odd bits of content were either not included or just simply removed during the writing/editing process. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1268 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 02:14:16
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| Speaking from very limited experience, I second all the novels so far listed. But for sources, I would love a director's cut of Lost Empires of Faerûn. If I have a detailed source of "what used to be here," I can make some awesome dungeons that nobody has ever heard of that are "historically" accurate. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 02:39:10
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
So I'm assuming you already have some ideas on how you would expand on the final battle sequence.
Could you briefly share them here with us?
She could, but due to the nature of the Internet .....I'm guessing she won't.
And I applaud you for asking what we were all thinking! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 04:46:57
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| Similarly with the Battle of Mithral Hall at the end of The Halfling's Gem. TSR rushed Bob through that. I think it takes up less than one page. It's like the epilogue to the movie Braveheart! |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 04:57:55
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
I'd love to see you usher Evermeet into the 5E era with a new novel or for us to find out what Liriel has been up to for the last century. :) |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
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Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 12:28:23
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| Sounds like a great idea. Its been done for other series, like Raymond Feist's Magician. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 15:08:18
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And the now-legendary original submission of Spellfire...
And Ed and Elaine's City of Splendors too, while we're talking about it. Since we know odd bits of content were either not included or just simply removed during the writing/editing process.
Ed cut something like 14,000 words on the final pass. Which is, in large part, why I'm content to let City of Splendors stand as is. We did SO MANY PASSES on this novel that the idea of doing another makes me want to cower under my desk and whimper.
That said, writing the book was a lot of fun and I would leap at the chance to work with Ed again. But any such project would have to have clearly defined sections. An epistolary novel--a story told a series of letters between two people--would be ideal for very different writing styles and very different character voices. Alternately, a story told in first person point of view by two characters, as Dave Gross is doing with such success in his Radovan and Jeggare novels in the Pathfinder setting, would be fun. (BTW, if you haven't read Dave's Pathfinder books, order them TODAY.) Alas, neither of these formats fit the Forgotten Realms storytelling style. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
2396 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 15:11:01
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
So I'm assuming you already have some ideas on how you would expand on the final battle sequence.
Could you briefly share them here with us?
She could, but due to the nature of the Internet .....I'm guessing she won't.
And I applaud you for asking what we were all thinking!
Red Walker is right. I try not to speculate about characters' futures or post unapproved lore, for that is the path to chaos. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
2396 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 15:12:10
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Originally posted by Eilserus
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
I'd love to see you usher Evermeet into the 5E era with a new novel or for us to find out what Liriel has been up to for the last century. :)
You know, that DOES sound like fun. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
2396 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 15:34:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Oh, it'd be great if things were tweaked in such a matter that Elaine could complete Reclamation. I'd love to read more about Arilyn and Danilo.
It's not a matter of "tweaking things." Reclamation would require a very different ending, which would require a whole new plot. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 15:45:13
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Oh, it'd be great if things were tweaked in such a matter that Elaine could complete Reclamation. I'd love to read more about Arilyn and Danilo.
It's not a matter of "tweaking things." Reclamation would require a very different ending, which would require a whole new plot.
I'm ok with that |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 16:26:47
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| I am not sure how large of a fanbase we represent, but we are a very loyal fanbase who would definitely shell out gold pieces to finally be able to read Reclamation, in what ever form the book may be at the end. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36784 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2012 : 16:45:16
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Oh, it'd be great if things were tweaked in such a matter that Elaine could complete Reclamation. I'd love to read more about Arilyn and Danilo.
It's not a matter of "tweaking things." Reclamation would require a very different ending, which would require a whole new plot.
Actually, I was referring to the in-setting changes that necessitated that. Without knowing more about what you were working on, I don't know if the changes can be mitigated/undone -- but it'd be nice if the setting was returned to a place where Reclamation could happen as planned. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2012 : 01:58:32
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
I would love to do a "director's cut" of EVERMEET, with a greatly expanded final battle sequence. :)
So I'm assuming you already have some ideas on how you would expand on the final battle sequence.
Could you briefly share them here with us?
She could, but due to the nature of the Internet .....I'm guessing she won't.
And I applaud you for asking what we were all thinking!
Red Walker is right. I try not to speculate about characters' futures or post unapproved lore, for that is the path to chaos.
I thought as much, but I was too curiously tempted by the possibilities by what you suggested. |
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"So Saith Ed" -- the collected Candlekeep replies of Ed Greenwood
Zhoth'ilam Folio -- The Electronic Misadventures of a Rambling Sage |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
2396 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2012 : 14:35:17
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I suspect we're mostly looking at digital versions of products, and there may be a print on demand model available for those who really want paper.
Having a POD option makes a lot of sense. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
2396 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2012 : 15:29:29
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Actually, I was referring to the in-setting changes that necessitated that. Without knowing more about what you were working on, I don't know if the changes can be mitigated/undone -- but it'd be nice if the setting was returned to a place where Reclamation could happen as planned.
Wooly, it's my understanding that 5E will not be a retcon, nor will 4E changes be dismissed in Bobby-Ewing-shower-scene fashion (aka AND IT WAS ALL A DREAM!) Canon is canon, and all changes stand.
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2012 : 15:33:05
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| Elaine is correct. The timeline is going to continue according to Ed. Nothing will be invalidated and the present time will still exist some point after the current date (1480 DR). |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2449 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2012 : 15:59:55
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| Yuck. I sure hope they allow, and that authors will, write novels back in the 1350-1370 timeframe. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2012 : 16:10:33
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Originally posted by Hoondatha
Yuck. I sure hope they allow, and that authors will, write novels back in the 1350-1370 timeframe.
I hoping from all time frames is allowed and encouraged.....I want to read about the Seven Sigil War, The Moonstars, the times when dragons ruled, Danilo and Elaith Craulnober, more of when Cormyr was young(paging Brian Cortijo)....I could list dozens.... |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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