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George Krashos
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Posted - 04 Apr 2012 :  03:02:11  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

Steve, if that's the worst you had to endure then you got off pretty lucky, my DMs and players are relentlessly punny. I suppose some of the most prominent names in the game have anagrammed, punned, or downright dull name inspirations and minor homages ... Mordenkainen = Minion Drake? Elminster = Ed's Minister? Krashos Morueme = Grandmaster George, etc. The names in Netheril are really no better or worse than any other, being based off old bands doesn't really change Netheril in any way, at least Slade didn't name the Pun-Pun Scrolls.



I did ask Eric to use an anagram - something simple like Karsosh would have been better ...

He was on a tear in DDGttU however - it's probably got more in jokes than any other product I'm aware of.

-- George Krashos

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Ayrik
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Posted - 04 Apr 2012 :  03:08:04  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Krashos is actually a fine name for an evil dragon. An anagram like Karsosh or Kargosh would just read like bad Klingon to me ... but then, I am probably biased.

[/Ayrik]

Edited by - Ayrik on 04 Apr 2012 03:08:53
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Markustay
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Posted - 06 Apr 2012 :  05:22:11  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's 'good' Klingon?



@LK - Gary did it, as Jorkens points out, back when it was just a humble little game between friends, which grew much bigger, but the names stuck. It was part of the game's original charm.

When I was a GH DM, I was a 'punny' DM - the worst of a bad lot. Once, during a session, the radio was playing and the song came on, "Ain't no woman like the one I got...", which one of my brother-in-laws friends was singing to (badly), and I instantly came up with the monster "the one-eyed gott". It was a rather ugly hag (resembling a small cyclops with a canine-like snout), but it would use illusions to lure men to their doom (she mated with them and then ate them... yeah, yeah, I know... save the corny jokes). She usually dropped the illusion at the finale of the sexual act, just to enjoy the look of horror on the victims face (and just before she starting eating that same face).

After the impromptu session and encounter, those guys forevermore sung that song, "There ain't no woman like the one-eyed gott..." (which is precisely how the bad rendition by the player sounded to me).

Actually, that was probably one of my better ideas. I had far, far worse - my GH campaign read like a bad Xanth novel.

And now that I am thinking back, my co-DM and I (we took turns) based a LOT of adventures on songs, and I still occasionally get ideas from one. I guess I should cut Slade some slack.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


Edited by - Markustay on 06 Apr 2012 05:22:30
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The Sage
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There's 'good' Klingon?
What's wrong with Kang?

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 06 Apr 2012 :  17:28:40  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-There is only one Kang, and he is a conqueror!

quote:
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@LK - Gary did it, as Jorkens points out, back when it was just a humble little game between friends, which grew much bigger, but the names stuck. It was part of the game's original charm.

-I then blame the people who continued to add montage after montage, then. I mean, one or three are fine, not eight or nine.

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Edited by - Lord Karsus on 06 Apr 2012 17:30:15
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Dennis
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Posted - 31 May 2012 :  07:07:50  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

I wonder, though, why some don't have translations at all, and simply retained their Loross names, like Sakkors and Jockteleg. The latter should have been called Quantoul's Enclave. [Could Quantoul's popularity (lesser than most archwizards whose enclaves are known by their names, e.g. Karsus and Ioulaum) have to do with it?]


-That is probably simply a metagame shift in naming conventions. The Netheril box set pretty much only uses the "translations", while sources that have been written since- especially in 3e- have gone back and forth between the two (when applicable).


Or simply a writer's preference.

In Lords of Darkness, the name used to refer to the City of Shade is Thultanthar. While in Troy and Paul's novels, it's usually (or only?) Shade Enclave.

How many remember Xinlenal and Eileanar? Most people refer to them as Ioulaum's Enclave and Karsus' Enclave, respectively.

Every beginning has an end.

Edited by - Dennis on 31 May 2012 07:08:15
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