| Author |
 Topic  |
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
 Posted - 19 Jun 2004 : 19:23:51
|
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well, I didn't look at all of the pics, I just checked some at random. A lot of them looked like something out of a comic book. Good stuff for a comic book, but not what I like to see in an RPG book. Some of the other stuff didn't look bad, but wasn't particularly impressive...
My feelings exactly. I immediately felt like I was looking at a comic book rather than a RPG. I don't know if that's the way the winds are blowing as far as art or if that suits the Eberron world more.
I liked a few images, but overall the art did nothing to stimulate any need for me to rush out and browse through the book today at some store. |
 |
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2004 : 21:26:44
|
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I liked a few images, but overall the art did nothing to stimulate any need for me to rush out and browse through the book today at some store.
Some of the elements of the world that I've read about thus far have been intriguing... But not enough for me to drop $40. I'm gonna see if I can get a more reasonable price on eBay. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen!  |
|
|
|
Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2004 : 23:32:54
|
Amazon has it for 27 bucks.
Sarta |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2004 : 00:14:47
|
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Some of the elements of the world that I've read about thus far have been intriguing... But not enough for me to drop $40. I'm gonna see if I can get a more reasonable price on eBay.
Let me know what you think if you do get the tome. I'm very curious if anything within could be mined for a FR campaign. I doubt it, but it'd be curious to see someone's take on the subject. |
|
|
|
CurseLord
Acolyte
35 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2004 : 01:33:06
|
I have the Eberron booklet, so feel free to ask me any questions you wish.
Mining it for a Forgotten Realms, I believe there are a couple of things that you can use, besides the usual magical spells, items, monsters, and a few of the prestige classes.
Shifters, you could add as an old tribe of lycanthropes and are now no longer humans.
I also like the new race of Changelings, but I don't know where to put them into the Forgotten Realms exactly. Is there some area that dopplegangers are common?
The Warforged Titan could be an experiment by some Latanese that went out of control.
I can also see adding the Artificer class to NPC's from areas like Lantan, Halruaa, or Thay, since Artificer concerns itself with magical item creation.
I also like the idea of using the Living Spell template and having strange types of monsters wander in Netherese ruins or something.
|
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2004 : 01:35:29
|
quote:
Originally posted by CurseLord
I have the Eberron booklet, so feel free to ask me any questions you wish.
How are Eberron's elves and drow different than their FR equivalents? In looking at the art for these two races, I'd say there are large differences. But, I wanted to hear from someone with the tome. |
|
|
|
CurseLord
Acolyte
35 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2004 : 01:52:05
|
I haven't found anything on the drow other then a picture. As for the elves, besides the drow, there is no subraces. Elves began as slaves to the giant races and learned magic from them.
There are two cultures of elves. One culture seems very militristic and have intregrated a lot with human socities, the other are more isolated. Both cultures revere their ancestors, the isolated elf culture, called Aerenal, morso because they revere their ancestors that remain.
There are many elves who become Deathless(a new creature type that was first introduced in the Book of Exalted Deeds). Also, there religion is the Undying Court, who are the combined essence of the Undying Court.
So, the biggest diffrence I would say is that these elves worship their dead ancestors. Other then that, I would have to read more. |
Edited by - CurseLord on 20 Jun 2004 01:59:29 |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2004 : 02:20:22
|
quote:
Originally posted by CurseLord
So, the biggest diffrence I would say is that these elves worship their dead ancestors. Other then that, I would have to read more.
Which if I recall correctly, has been introduced before in a D20 publication. Thanks for the information CurseLord. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions.
|
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2004 : 16:05:09
|
| For all the aspiring writers out there, WOTC wants to hear from you. |
|
|
|
Valondil the Ranger
Learned Scribe
USA
109 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2004 : 09:30:07
|
| Is it true that you have to be eighteen to send in a submission for the Eberron book proposal? If it is, then I'm out of luck. |
--Your humble ranger,
Valondil
Check out my webpage at http://iankappos.blogspot.com/ |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2004 : 13:56:28
|
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger
Is it true that you have to be eighteen to send in a submission for the Eberron book proposal? If it is, then I'm out of luck.
Apparently, that is the case. Sorry to hear that for you VtR. |
|
|
|
Valondil the Ranger
Learned Scribe
USA
109 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2004 : 18:05:54
|
I just emailed one of the people at WotC website asking them about the age restriction. They said that age doesn't matter, only the merit of your writing, but I still don't see why the would say you had to be eighteen or older to send in a submission on the Eberron book proposal page.  |
--Your humble ranger,
Valondil
Check out my webpage at http://iankappos.blogspot.com/ |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2004 : 02:49:32
|
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger
I just emailed one of the people at WotC website asking them about the age restriction. They said that age doesn't matter, only the merit of your writing, but I still don't see why the would say you had to be eighteen or older to send in a submission on the Eberron book proposal page.
Well that's fun, two sets of instructions/rules. |
|
|
|
Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2004 : 03:25:42
|
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger
I just emailed one of the people at WotC website asking them about the age restriction. They said that age doesn't matter, only the merit of your writing, but I still don't see why the would say you had to be eighteen or older to send in a submission on the Eberron book proposal page.
Well that's fun, two sets of instructions/rules.
Of course, it's WotC. Next week, we'll see the "WotC Writer" Prestige Class posted on the Wizards website. |
Candlekeep Forums Moderator
Candlekeep - The Library of Forgotten Realms Lore
http://www.candlekeep.com -- Candlekeep Forum Code of Conduct
I am the Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen! |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2004 : 03:31:52
|
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Of course, it's WotC. Next week, we'll see the "WotC Writer" Prestige Class posted on the Wizards website.
With errata soon to follow for the PrC. |
|
|
|
Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2004 : 04:40:35
|
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
With errata soon to follow for the PrC.
Then errata for the errata. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2004 : 04:57:53
|
| Here's a question I've been meaning to ask those with the Eberron knowledge. This setting is about to have some novels released. Is WOTC going to allow discussion about these novels on the Eberron message boards? |
|
|
|
Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2004 : 05:10:41
|
I haven't been over there in a while, but I attempted to adhere to the novel rules when there. I even added a link to the thread which outlines the novel rules. I'll have to go back and see how things are shaping up.
I do have to say that the novel rules have become relaxed slightly lately. If someone asks where can I read about fey'ri, you can cite Forsaken House in your response for example.
Sarta |
|
|
|
Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
921 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2004 : 03:22:05
|
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Here's a question I've been meaning to ask those with the Eberron knowledge. This setting is about to have some novels released. Is WOTC going to allow discussion about these novels on the Eberron message boards?
According to the last time that particular question was asked over on those boards, yes . . . most likely . . . 
Nothing definitive has yet been put forth though. The board administrators are still rather reluctant to re-open this trend.
|
"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett |
|
|
|
Valondil the Ranger
Learned Scribe
USA
109 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2004 : 22:46:34
|
| So, does anyone have a solid answer/best guess? I really need an answer, lest I run out of time. |
--Your humble ranger,
Valondil
Check out my webpage at http://iankappos.blogspot.com/ |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2004 : 22:57:30
|
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger
So, does anyone have a solid answer/best guess? I really need an answer, lest I run out of time.
With what the person from the WOTC website told you in the email, I would suggest making your submission. After all, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission. |
|
|
|
Valondil the Ranger
Learned Scribe
USA
109 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2004 : 23:24:57
|
| Thank you, Sirius. I will begin to prepare proposal. |
--Your humble ranger,
Valondil
Check out my webpage at http://iankappos.blogspot.com/ |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2004 : 23:44:11
|
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger
Thank you, Sirius. I will begin to prepare proposal.
Good luck to you Valondil. |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2004 : 19:12:58
|
RPGnet has a Review of Eberron now up.. I love the opening paragraph...
quote:
For better or worse Eberron is Wizard’s new baby and they showing it off in a manner that only a mother can. For about the past year we have seen the ultrasound images in Dragon magazine and endless advertisements. The Official D&D web site has been ‘gearing up for Eberron’ for the past several months despite numerous other worthy products. That said is Eberron a babe only a mother could love? Sure Wizards may not think so – but I am leaning that way after my first look
|
|
|
|
CurseLord
Acolyte
35 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 04:41:46
|
Wow, that was a very terrible review of Eberron. Please look for clarifications at the bottom made by Keith Baker and a few other people at the bottom of that review.
Edit: This review http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/opinions/review-eberron.htmlseems more of a well-thought out IMO. |
Edited by - CurseLord on 30 Jun 2004 05:01:18 |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 05:18:35
|
quote:
Originally posted by CurseLord
Wow, that was a very terrible review of Eberron. Please look for clarifications at the bottom made by Keith Baker and a few other people at the bottom of that review.
Edit: This review http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/opinions/review-eberron.htmlseems more of a well-thought out IMO.
Every product, even an outstanding one, is going to have bad reviews. For those wishing additional reviews, there are links from the one RPGnet review that allow you to view other opinions on Eberron.
From the opening paragraph of the RPGnet review that I linked, I think it's fair to say the reviewer was already more than a little sick of the WWE style promotional push that Eberron has received. While I in no way know if his views on the product are valid or not, I can definitely understand his feelings towards the promotional aspect. |
|
|
|
CurseLord
Acolyte
35 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 06:27:34
|
I want to warn people that if they have an intrest in buying the Eberron tome, to beware of a printing error that has happened in many of the books. To qoute from a thread here http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=260900&highlight=printing error
quote:
The books we received skip from page 128 to page 177 (which is to say, those pages aren't there), and then run consecutively to page 192, and then jump back down to page 145 where they continue on just dandy (though pages 177 thru 192 are repeated). So the book is "missing" 16 pages of content, but still has the full page count.
|
|
|
|
Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 06:44:39
|
quote:
Originally posted by CurseLord
I want to warn people that if they have an intrest in buying the Eberron tome, to beware of a printing error that has happened in many of the books. To qoute from a thread here http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=260900&highlight=printing error
quote:
The books we received skip from page 128 to page 177 (which is to say, those pages aren't there), and then run consecutively to page 192, and then jump back down to page 145 where they continue on just dandy (though pages 177 thru 192 are repeated). So the book is "missing" 16 pages of content, but still has the full page count.
I'll be sure to tell my FLGS when I go in tomorrow to pick something up(not sure what yet, might even be Eberron- -or a Mage book or two.). Anyway... |
|
|
|
SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 06:45:27
|
| Yeah, I recall hearing of that error. Oh boy.....of all things for a new campaign setting you wish to get people excited about. |
|
|
|
Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2004 : 07:34:19
|
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Yeah, I recall hearing of that error. Oh boy.....of all things for a new campaign setting you wish to get people excited about.
I'm not sure how to say this without coming off as a jerk, but the snide comments about Eberron are getting stale. I share your beliefs on the product, but prefer not to dwell on it. I also hold your posts in high esteem and don't mean to get you upset, but I just had to say something.
If this is far too inflamatory, I will happily delete it or allow one of the mods to do so.
Sarta |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
Get Ready for Eberron
Topic Locked
