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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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 Posted - 14 Feb 2012 : 12:08:31
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| The Wizards that dwell on the Coast want to kill me of surprise?!?! Moradin´s beard, it´s the best new in centuries. Bring me Ed version of the Realms. I´m waiting. |
Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P
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Rils
Learned Scribe
USA
108 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2012 : 16:58:41
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Originally posted by Jakk
That being said, if the new book really is Ed's Realms (and I've heard nothing to suggest otherwise), I'm absolutely ready to preorder. But, because I have been burned before, I'll be awaiting word from Ed regarding the content vetting process for this one. Still, I'm hopeful that WotC has learned that it made a mistake with 4E in telling us, instead of asking us, what we wanted. 
A comment in today's Rule of Three column keeps me optimistic on this: "...edition neutral products we've announced so far are the Menzoberranzan product, and the upcoming book by Ed Greenwood detailing his version of the Forgotten Realms." (emphasis mine) In addition to previous comments from WotC about the genesis of this tome, that's a bold statement to make if Ed wasn't really involved with it... |
Dugmaren Brightmantle is my homey. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2012 : 20:17:13
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Ed just finished writing it. Text, art order, the works. By himself, I believe.
love,
THO
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Fellfire
Master of Realmslore
1965 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2012 : 20:33:11
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| Wonderful! The man is my hero and an inspiration. Now bundle that baby off to the printers post haste. |
Misanthorpe
Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.
"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises
Green Dragonscale Dice Bag by Crystalsidyll - check it out
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Eladrinstar
Learned Scribe
USA
196 Posts |
Posted - 14 Feb 2012 : 21:11:00
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed just finished writing it. Text, art order, the works. By himself, I believe.
love,
THO
Very good! I look forward to it.
And he did the art himself? Maybe now we'll get to see what things and people are actually supposed to look like. |
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2012 : 00:22:01
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2012 : 01:25:17
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed just finished writing it. Text, art order, the works. By himself, I believe.
love,
THO
Wait! Ed worked on the art as well?
Does that mean we can also expect some cool imagery from Ed in this new tome that would be similar to the sketches presented in The Annotated Elminster?
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
1105 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2012 : 01:34:46
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed just finished writing it. Text, art order, the works. By himself, I believe.
love,
THO
Wait! Ed worked on the art as well?
Does that mean we can also expect some cool imagery from Ed in this new tome that would be similar to the sketches presented in The Annotated Elminster?
No, no. "Art order" means the directions that the author (or developer, or editor, depending on the project) gives to the artist. Think of it as an art script. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2012 : 03:02:07
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Damn, I was looking forward to Lady Mages Wearing a cloak & knee high boots and nothing else! |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2012 : 03:22:48
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed just finished writing it. Text, art order, the works. By himself, I believe.
love,
THO
So... why must we wait another nine months for the finished product? Once Ed's done writing, that's birth, not conception, from where I'm looking at things. IMHO, we should be seeing this book no later than May (because I know that typesetting and binding take time; there shouldn't be any room for graphics beyond cover art).  |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2012 : 16:35:02
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Damn, I was looking forward to Lady Mages Wearing a cloak & knee high boots and nothing else!
Don't give up hope--that might very well be included in his art order.
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Originally posted by Jakk
So... why must we wait another nine months for the finished product? Once Ed's done writing, that's birth, not conception, from where I'm looking at things. IMHO, we should be seeing this book no later than May (because I know that typesetting and binding take time; there shouldn't be any room for graphics beyond cover art).
The cycle of editing and revision (and all writers need an editor--just look at those writers who don't have one), copy editing, typesetting, art creation, final check, ad ultimate printing takes a long time. This may seem slow, but it's actually quite fast, considering how long the process usually takes.
You want it to be right, right? Patience!
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
2296 Posts |
Posted - 15 Feb 2012 : 23:23:13
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| Will Ed have final say in the product? Not that they spring any more nasty surprises a'la Grand History on us. |
Mace's not so gentle gamer's journal My rants were harmless compared to this, beware! |
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Lameth
Learned Scribe
Germany
196 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2012 : 12:43:59
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Originally posted by Dark Wizard
I liked the Grand History, but it does represent the point where I stopped buying Realms product even for the portion I might use. Due to the distance in time and tone the balance shifted closer to 50/50 (optimistically) with the new setting. Kind of hard to justify paying full price for half a book, especially as I'm not even curious about Spellplague stuff.
Some as here.
I bought ever stuff of the 2nd and 3rd Edition. But we never got into the 4th Edition stuff. The Spellplague killed our Realms. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 00:37:00
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| From what can be seen of the details, I think it's a better cover than the 4E FRCG (Shade-centric, "false advertising") and especially the 4E FRPG (cluttered, unfocused). Warrior type leap attacking a troll doesn't say much about the setting or contents, but is more day-in-the-life for adventurers than shade knight riding a dragon-like beast. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 01:21:32
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Originally posted by Lameth
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Originally posted by Dark Wizard
Kind of hard to justify paying full price for half a book, especially as I'm not even curious about Spellplague stuff.
Some as here.
I bought ever stuff of the 2nd and 3rd Edition. But we never got into the 4th Edition stuff. The Spellplague killed our Realms.
Rest assured, many of us are working quite hard to revive them. No fear!
Cheers
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 05:53:09
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I like the concept, but that creature needs something - it looks like a cross between an ogre and a troll.
And for some reason, it reminds me of the old Volo's covers (something BAD about to happen), which is a good thing.
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"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 15:15:03
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Oooooo....a drow mage wearing a pointy wizards hat!
I laughed so hard coffee flew out of my nostrils.
Today is a good day. |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 15:54:56
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| I like the cover, its the best one I can remember seeing this millennium, although the troll is to heavily muscled and the sword is a bit silly. I would probably prefer a cover without a paining (more along the lines of the 3ed. campaign set), but all in all this looks good. |
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Lirdolin
Learned Scribe
Germany
198 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 21:04:37
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Originally posted by Bakra
Oooooo....a drow mage wearing a pointy wizards hat!
I laughed so hard coffee flew out of my nostrils.
Today is a good day.
I first thought that it is a lich not a drow... but should it be a drow I believe it's Gromph Baenre who stole Elminster's hat when El was doing his Laundry. And the guy assaulting the coach-troll is a hero trying to get the hat back for El |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1296 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 21:04:57
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Re Cover Art - I see this as a lore book not an adventure module...I don't think it's a bad drawing (far from it) but it's not the right work for this book. I'd like to see a nice painting of Elminster, smoking a pipe in his tower reading or writing a book, possibly with Llaeho or one of the Sisters reading over his shoulder.
Or..as Jorkens said, a cover like the 3ed Campaign with just a symbol and a stylized cover. |
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Jeremy Grenemyer
Great Reader
USA
2717 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 21:35:12
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| If the book talks about any of ED's underused-in-the-published-Realms NPCs, I'd like it if the book had a cover depicting all of these individuals in a Heroes' Lorebook-type cover. |
Look for me and my content at EN World (user name: sanishiver). |
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Lirdolin
Learned Scribe
Germany
198 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 21:44:01
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Yes, Elminster somewhere on the cover of 'Elminsters Forgotten Realms' would be preferebel. The cover of 'Elminster's Ecologies' is a great example for this.
But I believe the cover probably reflects Ed's style of adventuring in his Realms? |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 21:52:21
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| I like that it's an action cene with multiple figures and greenery. The 'Elminster's' in the title is presumably just a sales-boosting tactic, as with Elminster's Ecologies and Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark, so I don't regret not picturing him too (especially as he was already shown gratuitously on The Grand History). Yes, I've seen a few of those too-bulky trolls lately. I think this is my favourite version of the logo. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2012 : 23:58:04
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So the troll is pulling the cart, that the Drow in the pointy hat is wearing. Some crazy human is trying to rob them. Must be Mirt!
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2012 : 10:24:34
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| I will also add that every illustration I see of a wizard with a pointy hat will give me some hope for the future. |
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
628 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2012 : 15:03:26
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Originally posted by Brimstone
So the troll is pulling the cart, that the Drow in the pointy hat is wearing. Some crazy human is trying to rob them. Must be Mirt!
Naaa, it is one them Elminster clones I heard about.
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I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2012 : 20:53:14
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| That's a pretty neat picture. See were already getting new lore. Drow chain giant trolls to wagon-carts in some areas! I wonder what area of the Realms this picture portrays. Dales? High Forest? Tethyr? And I agree with Marckus, has the "something about to go down" feel to the scene from the Volo days. :) Hopefull this will sell well enough that they will want Ed to write a zillion more. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2012 : 23:39:57
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I get the idea that is a young Khelben, and maybe the other guy is Elminster in Drow form? (it would be interesting to finally have some details about their first meeting)
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Originally posted by Bakra
Oooooo....a drow mage wearing a pointy wizards hat!
Is that what that is? I must be getting old - I can't make out any details. 
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Originally posted by Jorkens
I will also add that every illustration I see of a wizard with a pointy hat will give me some hope for the future.
True
The conical shape helps focus the magical energies (that why witches have them, and fey like gnomes & brownies, etc). |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Ed Greenwood Presents Elminster's Forgotten Realms
