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Dennis
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 Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 01:16:14
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The summoning that brought their city back to the Prime required the power of the Karsetone. And getting it was no easy task.
The "water" can easily wash them away---that, they know. That's why they don't stand still. Literally. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31797 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 01:16:35
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Originally posted by Dark Wizard
- Return of Shade: Evil Shadowy mega-wizards come back to seek... world domination. Okay. You had a thousand years to do so, was it that far down on your To Do list?
OMG! Sage is a Shade! 
How'd I miss that one the first time I quoted that? .
Or Netherese, or Imaskari, etc...
I'd prefer being an Imaskari.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 01:21:28
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
As the Spellplague was happening, and the explosion was building up in Halruaa, an archmage by the name of Rue Pertyn (who was rumored to keep a miniature giant space hamster as a familiar, a creature he had adopted from a certain crazy barbarian) attempted to flee the chaos through use of a portal or teleportation spell (or perhaps it was even a contingency). It was too late, however, for he was already infected with the Spellplague, and his attempt to get away only carried the plague past the otherwise impenetrable barrier. Once in the outside area, it went off and had much the same effect.
Contagion style.
How's that for a plausible explanation?
Which makes me wonder, now, whether, with their long history of arcane experimentation and magical development, the Halruaans ever possibly conceived of a Spellplague-like event occurring should the Weave collapse.
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 01:28:43
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| Perhaps a Shage? A once-human roughly similar to shades, except linked to the Temporal Prime (Demiplane of Time) instead of Shadowfell (Demiplane of Shadow)? Ageless, possessing fantastic mental regeneration and the ability to timestep into nearby locations within past and future? |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 01:43:11
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
As the Spellplague was happening, and the explosion was building up in Halruaa, an archmage by the name of Rue Pertyn (who was rumored to keep a miniature giant space hamster as a familiar, a creature he had adopted from a certain crazy barbarian) attempted to flee the chaos through use of a portal or teleportation spell (or perhaps it was even a contingency). It was too late, however, for he was already infected with the Spellplague, and his attempt to get away only carried the plague past the otherwise impenetrable barrier. Once in the outside area, it went off and had much the same effect.
Contagion style.
How's that for a plausible explanation?
Which makes me wonder, now, whether, with their long history of arcane experimentation and magical development, the Halruaans ever possibly conceived of a Spellplague-like event occurring should the Weave collapse.
Or glimpsed it from the present, given the number and caliber of their diviners.
If Yaphyll could do it, why couldn't they? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 01:52:01
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Perhaps a Shage? A once-human roughly similar to shades, except linked to the Temporal Prime (Demiplane of Time) instead of Shadowfell (Demiplane of Shadow)? Ageless, possessing fantastic mental regeneration and the ability to timestep into nearby locations within past and future?
Oh, this is so going into my Realms.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 01:54:36
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
As the Spellplague was happening, and the explosion was building up in Halruaa, an archmage by the name of Rue Pertyn (who was rumored to keep a miniature giant space hamster as a familiar, a creature he had adopted from a certain crazy barbarian) attempted to flee the chaos through use of a portal or teleportation spell (or perhaps it was even a contingency). It was too late, however, for he was already infected with the Spellplague, and his attempt to get away only carried the plague past the otherwise impenetrable barrier. Once in the outside area, it went off and had much the same effect.
Contagion style.
How's that for a plausible explanation?
Which makes me wonder, now, whether, with their long history of arcane experimentation and magical development, the Halruaans ever possibly conceived of a Spellplague-like event occurring should the Weave collapse.
Or glimpsed it from the present, given the number and caliber of their diviners.
If Yaphyll could do it, why couldn't they?
And Zalathorm was a Diviner, with some psionic ability that allowed him to predict the future.
I like the idea that he might have recorded some of what he perceived through prophecies and such.
Not that I would have expected him to perceive the destruction of Halruaa, but my thinking on this suggests that divination, coupled with a culture's strong inclination toward magical experimentation and a nation's heavy reliance on the arcane, brings probable future developments to one's mind. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 01:56:09
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Perhaps a Shage? A once-human roughly similar to shades, except linked to the Temporal Prime (Demiplane of Time) instead of Shadowfell (Demiplane of Shadow)? Ageless, possessing fantastic mental regeneration and the ability to timestep into nearby locations within past and future?
Sounds nearly powerful as Ao. The To-Do List would certainly reach beyond infinity... Good luck to those things on the list. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 02:04:53
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Originally posted by Dennis
Or glimpsed it from the present, given the number and caliber of their diviners.
If Yaphyll could do it, why couldn't they?
And Zalathorm was a Diviner, with some psionic ability that allowed him to predict the future.
I like the idea that he might have recorded some of what he perceived through prophecies and such.
Not that I would have expected him to perceive the destruction of Halruaa, but my thinking on this suggests that divination, coupled with a culture's strong inclination toward magical experimentation and a nation's heavy reliance on the arcane, brings probable future developments to one's mind.
Zalathorm and his council performed regular divination to safeguard their realm's future. I think at least one of those sessions revealed something about the Spellplague, or a version of it in a different timeline. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 03:23:13
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The Spellplague was an actual plague? 
I thought that was just a poetic way of saying 'magic ran amok'.
And here I didn't think I could like it any less. Seems I've been wrong about a few things lately.
I also don't see how Wooly's solution is any different then mine (the 3rd theory) - the Spellplague (as I thought I understood it to be - it must have changed over the course of 4e) was attracted to powerful magic, and the more powerful the magic, the more disastrous the result (like moths to a flame?)
So yes, the Spellplague did sweep across the realms, attacking apparently 'random' targets (not so random, really), and there is no reason to explain why it struck within Halruaa AND outside Halruaa.
The one exception to that is strong fields of 'area magic'. My theory is the more primal form of magic unleashed during the Cerulean Wave is somehow related to Fey, who specialized in Place Magic. I feel all Mythal/Mythalar magic has a similar basis, and because of this it is immune to the destructive effects of Raw Magic (based on my supposition that High Magic taps into that same 'primal {raw} magic', that is supposedly so dangerous to the Realms, and that Elven High Magic itself is based on Ancient Fey traditions and rituals).
Basically, strong 'place Magic' - like Mythals and Mythalars - stabilize a region of magic, and supercede the Weave (acting, in effect, as a local, 'mini-Weave'). Its a self-contained system, like when there is a power-outage and your building has its own generator.
Anyhow, like usual I digress. The Spellplague obviously wasn't nearly as systematically focused as some of the 4e canon would suggest (and one could further suppose that 4e itself was entirely 'inaccurate reporting', which would help us tremendously in fixing some of the lore). Assume the entire thing - campaign guide and all - is meant to be the information PCs know (in other words, in-world and inaccurate), which is actually the case, since the only things players wouldn't know - and by extension the PCs - is what the DM had created, which can overwrite anything.
It sounds complicated, but the bottom line is, "don't believe everything you read". |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 03:31:38
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It sounds complicated, but the bottom line is, "don't believe everything you read".
Spellplague was when Ao belched, only once. It passed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 03:36:28
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Originally posted by Markustay
So yes, the Spellplague did sweep across the realms, attacking apparently 'random' targets (not so random, really), ...
I don't know whether any other readers picked up on it, but that's kind of what I felt Bruce Cordell was leading towards for his portrayal of the Spellplague in Plague of Spells. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 04:44:30
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Originally posted by Markustay
The Spellplague was an actual plague?
I thought that was just a poetic way of saying 'magic ran amok'.
And here I didn't think I could like it any less. Seems I've been wrong about a few things lately.
I also don't see how Wooly's solution is any different then mine (the 3rd theory) - the Spellplague (as I thought I understood it to be - it must have changed over the course of 4e) was attracted to powerful magic, and the more powerful the magic, the more disastrous the result (like moths to a flame?)
So yes, the Spellplague did sweep across the realms, attacking apparently 'random' targets (not so random, really), and there is no reason to explain why it struck within Halruaa AND outside Halruaa.
The one exception to that is strong fields of 'area magic'. My theory is the more primal form of magic unleashed during the Cerulean Wave is somehow related to Fey, who specialized in Place Magic. I feel all Mythal/Mythalar magic has a similar basis, and because of this it is immune to the destructive effects of Raw Magic (based on my supposition that High Magic taps into that same 'primal {raw} magic', that is supposedly so dangerous to the Realms, and that Elven High Magic itself is based on Ancient Fey traditions and rituals).
Basically, strong 'place Magic' - like Mythals and Mythalars - stabilize a region of magic, and supercede the Weave (acting, in effect, as a local, 'mini-Weave'). Its a self-contained system, like when there is a power-outage and your building has its own generator.
Anyhow, like usual I digress. The Spellplague obviously wasn't nearly as systematically focused as some of the 4e canon would suggest (and one could further suppose that 4e itself was entirely 'inaccurate reporting', which would help us tremendously in fixing some of the lore). Assume the entire thing - campaign guide and all - is meant to be the information PCs know (in other words, in-world and inaccurate), which is actually the case, since the only things players wouldn't know - and by extension the PCs - is what the DM had created, which can overwrite anything.
It sounds complicated, but the bottom line is, "don't believe everything you read".
My theory is that the detonation of Halruaa was entirely unrelated to the destruction of the peninsula, making Chult into an island. Canon is that it's one event, and your volcano theory runs with that. My theory is that the two events were concurrent, but entirely independent. One would have happened without the other, but since they appeared to happened at the same time, it was falsely assumed to be one event.
Edit: post 21500! Huzzah! I'm glad this "milestone" post didn't involve me wearing the mod had, as several previous ones have... |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 17:27:53
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The Spellplague was an actual plague?
It wasn't. But there were thousands of wizards who all of a sudden became blazing basketcases of magical crazy, spreading destruction everywhere they went. So you can see why normal people might interpret that as a "plague."
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I thought that was just a poetic way of saying 'magic ran amok'.
Yep.
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The Spellplague obviously wasn't nearly as systematically focused as some of the 4e canon would suggest (and one could further suppose that 4e itself was entirely 'inaccurate reporting', which would help us tremendously in fixing some of the lore). Assume the entire thing - campaign guide and all - is meant to be the information PCs know (in other words, in-world and inaccurate), which is actually the case, since the only things players wouldn't know - and by extension the PCs - is what the DM had created, which can overwrite anything.
It sounds complicated, but the bottom line is, "don't believe everything you read".
I think this is a very powerful point. The Spellplague happened a century ago, and its very nature wiped out the ones most likely to document it properly (wizards, diviners, wise people, etc). It basically plunged the Realms into a dark age for a time, stunting the growth of technology, scholarship, science, etc. Every region has its own traditions and oral histories of what happened when the "Blue Fire" swept through--some of these stories may be accurate, some may not, but most hold at least a kernel of truth.
This is one of those things that was true about the Realms initially and remains true to this day: as much as we like to talk about the canon being sacrosanct and unbreachable, all of it is suspect and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Our ways of learning about the Realms involve some pretty unreliable narrators, after all. We know Ed gets it from Elminster (who must have caused quite a stir up there in the frozen north with his latest bouts of madness). I suspect Bob bases his stories on reading Drizzt's journals and filling in the blanks. Paul probably interviews Riven late at night in a dark legal office. And my own source is a compulsive liar who ambushes me at inopportune times, relays a story or three, then dances back away into the shadows.
So yeah, the Realms is full of unreliable narrators.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Lirdolin
Learned Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 21:22:42
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And my own source is a compulsive liar who ambushes me at inopportune times, relays a story or three, then dances back away into the shadows.
Next time she does, tell Fayne I'm an adoring fan of her work... a story about herself as a novel would be cool |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 : 23:30:39
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Markustay
So yes, the Spellplague did sweep across the realms, attacking apparently 'random' targets (not so random, really), ...
I don't know whether any other readers picked up on it, but that's kind of what I felt Bruce Cordell was leading towards for his portrayal of the Spellplague in Plague of Spells.
Agreed. That's why some of those who were hit got instantly incinerated, while others survived with new powers, aptly called the spellscarred. |
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Lirdolin
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 : 00:00:11
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2) Return the Crinti to Dambrath (I have my own idea, but would like to see you do it first ) Their removel was imo a loss because Dambrath as a Crinti Realm had a unique flavor and in 4e they had to make room for a land of 'shifter' barbarians. I won't ask for a total removel of the shifters but for a return of the loviatar-lolth worshiping half-drow to their holdings.
Here's my own solution to my challange (along with other parts of the Shining/Scarred South), although I'would still be interested in your take Erik
The Scarred South Shining again
Halruaa
The Heirs of Halruaa are few, but still many haven’t given up the dream to reclaim the glory of lost Halruaa. Adventurous mages from Earth’s End, using special eye lenses, carefully mapped the Plaguelands of their former homeland Halruaa and The Five Companies from the Yaulazan Mote also explored ruined Halruaa from above
They discovered, that while many entry points to the land via the mountains were still plagued by eruptions of wild magic, it’s centre was mostly free of it and the mages theorized that the remaining pockets Spellplague would probably burn out like the wild magic zones after the Time of Troubles. But until then, many of the Plaguelands would be a perfect defense until the first cities of Halruaa would be rebuilt.
In 1481 DR reconstruction is still far from over. The Mages of Earth’s End use their resources gained through trade with Earthheart and Delzimmer and the use of their magic portals to further the reconstructions. Earth motes are secretly moved to the new cities sites via the elemental plane of air to serve as floating building grounds and building materials are brought in from the plane of earth.
While some of the mages have started to built new skyships, Yaulzan agents also try to find and recover surviving skyships for the new Halruaa. Their first success was their chance (?) meeting with the ‘Realms Master’ and it's crew made up of it’s captain Vartan Hai Sylvar, Chosen of Labelas Enoreth and other members of the original crew or their descendants. Especially the heirs of Dwalimar Omens family, being mages of halruaan descent, were a welcome addition to the halruaan efforts.
To prevent the overly use of magic and attract nearby pockest of Spellplague, the Mages of Earth’s End sought and found remenants of Lantan and offered them an alliance to rebuilt a realm of mages, lorekeepers, scientists and thinkers. Lantan, having already recreated or reinventet their own civilisation, was thrilled by this opportunity to test their new mettel and agreed to lend the Heirs of Halruaa their help and many gondsmen and mechanical devices from Lantan are in use on the construction sites.
Lantan
While the Spellplague came as a surprise to the Halruaans, the people of Lantan were prepared for the tsunami created by the destruction of Halruaa. As an island nation Lantan had planned for such a catastrophy. Although designed to warn of the coming of natural tidal waves, the Lantanese has created a warning system, that allowed many of them to flee to underground shelters in time. Many of the most important reseach facilities also had their worksshops below the earth and were secure. Through tunnels these saverooms were connected to ‘the Vault’ a huge cavern within the Underdark below the island, that had fresh water and sported artifical light and vegetation. What the Lantanese had’nt expected though, was how complete the destruction of the land would be. Seeing that Lantan of old was gone and the Lantanese would be vulnrabel to pirates and other scavangers, they decided to rebuilt their civilisation below ground, centred on the Vault, that soon was called Lantan. To add living space the Lantanese also expanded into the sea and built glas-domed underwater outposts to explore the ocean and it's resources. Sea-farming and harvests of seaplants have become an important part of the ecology of Lantan.
Today Lantan has regained it’s strength and built a huge force of ‘Gondsmen’ to protect itself from outside forces. Some of Lantans most brilliant minds even were transfered to gondsmen replicas of their bodies, to preserve their knowledge for generations to come.
Dambrath
When the Arkaiun tribes of Dambrath rose against theit Crinti oppressors, all the half-drows cities were put to the torch by the victorious barbarians. Later the tribesmens stayed clear of the ruins in superstious fear. This made the ruins the perfect staging ground for the surviving crintis return to their lost land. For while the crinti nobles who fled to the drow city of T’lindeth found only death, not all crinti went that way to escape the downfall of their realm.
A sizable force of crinti shadow marauders was lead by Yenandra the Nightmare Queen, a former and now undead Queen of Dambrath, into the Shadowfell were they rebuilt their strength within the shadowimage of Hazuth.
Ly’stri Faerow, the captain of the infamous pirateship ‘Black Widow’ led the remainder of Dambraths Fleet south, were a massive tidal wave, resulting from the destruction of Halruaa had devasteted the zakharan pirate port of Hawa, which the crinti fleet swiftly conquered. The ‘Sea Witches of Hawa’ quickly became feared, although they kept a low profile to gather resources and allies for the eventual reconquest of their homeland.
In Cathyr Chaladra Sse’blis, a drow cleric of Lolth led survivors into the safty of the temples catacombs and summoned demons and spiders to protect them. After the city was left by its destroyers she started to ‘breed’ the crinti, ensuring the growth of their numbers, but she also created half-fiendish draegloths and crinti wer-spiders, who in their half-drow form sport graceful long legs, arms and fingers, smooth skin with an almost polished look, well-formed breasts and a quite prominent butt, in short stricking beauties until they changed into their half-spider or spider forms. Over an century the Spiders of Cathyr grew into an small army.
In 1480 DR the crinti finally decided that they were strong enough to take back what was theirs. Thanks to Potions of Longlivity now lead by an even younger Ly’stri Faerow, the Sea Witches fleet sailed north bringing with them silver cutlasses and scimitars to battle the lycanthrophes and shifters of the barbarian tribes. They arrived at Hazuth and Luenath, forming the first two beachheads for their invasion. The third beachhead was revealed, when the Spiders of Cathyr descendet on the unsuspecting human tribes, the crinti wer-spiders battling the barbarian’s lycanthopes with their own weapons.
From the Shadowfell the shadow marauders stormed forth on their dark horses, now armed with the silver supplied by their pirate sisters, repaying the burning of the crintis cities in kind to every barbarian village they could find.
Today the Twin Cities of Cathyr and Luenath are ruled by the clerics of Lolth and Loviatar respectivly, while Hazuth has become home to the riders of Yenandra the Nightmare Queen. Her Dark Amazons now are the scourge of the the trade road from Earthheart to Delzimmer and the plains south of it. The seas of Dambrath are the domain of the Pirate Queen Ly’stri Faerow and her Sea Witches.
While the crinti now again rule the coast of Dambrath and enslaved several human tribes, much of its lands, especially around the fey forest of Amtar, are still in the hands of the human tribes. Other crinti ruins are still in the hands of humanoids like gnolls and are sure targets for next fights of the half-drow.
While most Crinti now fight the shifters and barbarian tribes, the crinti Moondancers of Amtar, under the leadership of Nuriel Limbiya , a Chosen of Selune, are descendants of worshipers of Eilistraee, who hid with the elves in the Feywild of Amtars forests, when the crinti ruled Dambrath fell during the Wailing Years.
Luiren
Some of Luirens halflings survivors regrouped over time and settled in the Hills of XXNameXX within the borders of XXRealmnameXX and named their new home ‘The Shire Luiren’. These Halflings are filled with fear of the sea and saying ‘someone who lives by (or near) the shore’ is their way of telling you someone is crazy. Aside from this they try hard to recapture the image of old Luiren.
Other halfling descendants of Luiren live in the South Lluirwood, the remains of Luirens old Luirrwood, and are skilled boatfolk and sailors. They are allied to the hin-halflings of Dambraths Hills of the Kings, who in turn are often in contact with Luirens refugies who took shelter with the elves of Amtar.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 08:28:56
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These seen like plausible ideas to me!
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 14:46:06
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These seen like plausible ideas to me!
Cheers
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 17:09:11
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Originally posted by Zireael
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
These seen like plausible ideas to me!
Cheers
Seconded!
I support these ideas too. |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 18:38:15
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Next time she does, tell Fayne I'm an adoring fan of her work... a story about herself as a novel would be cool
Could be, could be. (You have read "Chosen of the Sword," right? Anyone who hasn't free 85 page novella right there!)
I've been having a good time writing her as a mysterious supporting character rather than a main (anti-)hero. More secrets that way.
And rest assured, we haven't seen the last of Fayne.
But of course I digress. Back to the topic!
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 19:20:10
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And now that we're on page 15, I guess I'll reveal the secret about this "contest."
The simple fact of the matter is that I use characters to honor my fellow Realms scribes all the time, so if you're in this thread, whether you stump me or not, I fully intend to extend the invitation to include a character named in your honor in one of my books. That doesn't mean it really will happen, but I'll make the effort.
Yes, to translate--if you participate substantively in this thread (in a positive way that doesn't get you disqualified), YOU HAVE ALREADY WON!!!
So no need to stump me--let's keep going!
Cheers
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Lirdolin
Learned Scribe
Germany
198 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 20:04:35
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We Won? What does he mean with 'we won' real-life-me? Did we ever win in a contest? Are we sure this isn't an alternate reality?
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
These seen like plausible ideas to me!
Thanks :) Glad you think so. Hope you'll bring them up if the topic arises during the 5e Realms creation? 
And yes I read 'Chosen of the Sword' (but still have to reread it for Waterdeep infos) loved it (especially Fayne) and hope to read Shadowbane (as well as Eye of Justice) someday (still no Shadowbane in Germany  ).
Best wishes
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 20:43:17
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/putting down sourcebook
Good, cause I had nothing else.
Hehe, thanks Erik, it was a very interesting scroll (and 4e-related without turning into an edition war). I hope people find more unexplained stuff for you to work on. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 20:44:31
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Well, you can see my contributions to Realms lore
in my guide to Myth Drannor. I especially like
the blink dog riding halfling wizard warriors
adventuring band, and my homebrew about the
Nomad of Scars and his final battle. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 23:00:04
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quote:
Originally posted by Lirdolin
We Won? What does he mean with 'we won' real-life-me? Did we ever win in a contest? Are we sure this isn't an alternate reality?
Well, enjoy the feeling now, because it's getting retconned. (j/k!)
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
These seen like plausible ideas to me!
Thanks :) Glad you think so. Hope you'll bring them up if the topic arises during the 5e Realms creation?
Well, I'm not one of the designers directly working on the 5e Realms stuff, so we'll have to see. I will say that I *know* WotC peeps read this thread, so you never know.
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And yes I read 'Chosen of the Sword' (but still have to reread it for Waterdeep infos) loved it (especially Fayne) and hope to read Shadowbane (as well as Eye of Justice) someday (still no Shadowbane in Germany ).
Ahh, that's so sad. I do know the book department is currently working on the issue of international ebook distribution. So keep the faith--it's just going to be a little while.
Also, there are still possibilities for paper copies that are being discussed. The more interest that is shown in the book, the better.
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Originally posted by Kilvan
Hehe, thanks Erik, it was a very interesting scroll (and 4e-related without turning into an edition war). I hope people find more unexplained stuff for you to work on.
Thank you for participating, but don't leave yet--this is when the scroll goes to phase 2: throw out some ideas for your honorary FR character. I will gladly take ideas to fit them into my novels.
Cheers
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2012 : 23:29:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Thank you for participating, but don't leave yet--this is when the scroll goes to phase 2: throw out some ideas for your honorary FR character. I will gladly take ideas to fit them into my novels.
Cheers
Ok! So, here's a long post about the background of my character. If it inspires you for any character, by all means use it!
Kilvan is an half-elf, child of his elven mother who was viciously attacked by a drunken man. She kept the baby and settled in Evermeet with her husband. He never received any respect from any of his peers, his adoptive father hated him, and he was refused magical training despite his obvious talent in the Art.
He developed some skills of survival at a young age, not so much for survival, but it allowed him to smuggle magic tomes and trinkets, sneak into classroom disguised as an elf, and eventually learned the basics of magic by himself. He eventually fled Evermeet when he was tired of the constant rejection. He travels with his sister, a true moon elf named Dizziana (Dizzy for short), as sword-for-hire, mainly on the Sword Coast.
He is a thief/mage spellfilcher kit, a renegade without any guild (he was never allowed training anyway), not very strong physically, and is very sensitive about comments regarding his dual-heritage. His sister, the only person he truly loves, is an able sword-fighter who will defend her brother with her life. Deep inside, he hates the Fair Folk for how he was treated, but refrains from any actions or comments out of respect for his sister. He is rather serious, straight-forward, impatient, but with a good heart. Dizzy, a much more light-hearted character, is the only one who truly knows him and she knows how to make him show his better side.
That's as summarized as I can make it. Hope that helps. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31797 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2012 : 00:52:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
The simple fact of the matter is that I use characters to honor my fellow Realms scribes all the time, so if you're in this thread, whether you stump me or not, I fully intend to extend the invitation to include a character named in your honor in one of my books. That doesn't mean it really will happen, but I'll make the effort.
Hmmmph! In my case, I would've already expected this to have happened. I mean, what more lovable, sagely character can you find in the person of the Sage of Perth? Or "Sage Operth," as Krash once semi-canonised me through his own lore here at Candlekeep. [See Krash's entry for "Haratholdokh" here.]
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2012 : 02:21:04
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| I haven't had time to read the entire thread, though gradually working through it, but I must say after reading Lirdolin's post offering lore on how to better meld the differences between the two edition eras is the direction I would like to see all Realmslore going forward into the upcoming iteration. |
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Lirdolin
Learned Scribe
Germany
198 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2012 : 07:07:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Well, I'm not one of the designers directly working on the 5e Realms stuff, so we'll have to see. I will say that I *know* WotC peeps read this thread, so you never know.
Well, then I want to let these 'shadowy agents of the powers that be' know, they can copy my ideas for the Shinning South 1:1 (minus the the bad spelling- hard case of spellplague), if they like it
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
(...)this is when the scroll goes to phase 2: throw out some ideas for your honorary FR character. I will gladly take ideas to fit them into my novels.
Cheers
Ok, so here is mine:
Lirdolin ‘Lil’ Lacûva
A beautiful female crinti (halfdrow) sorceress, who hails from Dambrath. The Dambrath before the Spellplague that is. Lirdolin was quite devastated with all the damages the Spellplague did to the world and sometimes misses ‘the Old World’. She herself was ‘bitchslapped’ by the Spellplague and has a spellscar, a blue tattoo (on the left side of her butt), which, along with the eyes and hair, starts glowing at certain times but seems to have stopped her aging. She spent quite some time to forge pacts with the fey to compensate the sorcerer-spells she lost after the Spellplague hit (believes the power of her blood hails from a distant nymph ancestor in the forest of Amtar).
Lirdolin is really moody in the morning and sleeps long if possible. She reads old romance and magic-mystery novels from before the Spellplague. Lirdolin has several female lovers across the Realms among them a fey’ri and a moonelf. She owns at least one of the infamous drow bathing suits and sometimes tells a story about how she took it from a drow matron mother in Menzoberranzan (some say scandalous Byrtyn Fey of House Fey-Branche, for Lirdolin shares her well rounded figure and the suits of other matrons probably wouldn’t fit), after an ‘romantic encounter...or what counts as such a thing among the drow’, but she might as well have ordered it from ‘Aurora’s Whole Realms Catalogue’.
Lirdolin reveres the drow-goddess Eilistraee to this day and still wears her symbol, but prays to Selûne and Corellon for guidance. At times she’s even contemplating to become a cleric.
Before the Spellplague she travelled with several adventuring groups, sometimes disguised as a cleric of Loviatar (still keeps some of the more private piercings) and was a tavern-slave in the drow city Fyvrek’zek, a district of Undrek’Thoz for a time. Today, when she is not adventuring with the adventuring group of the ‘Sunshadows’, she tries to live the quite life of a magical sage, collecting (among other topics) knowledge about her new home city of Waterdeep and relics from the ‘Old Realms’. Owns a small tower near Sevenlamps Cut in Silkstreet, the traditional home for mages for hire in the old days of Waterdeep.
An older (anatomically incorrect)picture i drew can be found here:
http://therealmidir.deviantart.com/gallery/29108888#/d3bjus7
Working on a new one, probably sporting the drow bathing suit, and thinking of using actress Christina Hendricks as a body model.
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Edited by - Lirdolin on 07 Feb 2012 19:31:08 |
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