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Kaervok
Seeker
USA
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 Posted - 01 Jan 2004 : 23:02:38
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| Well me, i buy every Faerun game that comes out, and i love th em all. I loved NWN, and the mages did look really stupid, that is, until Hordes of the UNderdark came out. I really love the robes, they are what i've been waiting for ever since I beat Baldurs gate 2. I loved the look of mages in BG2, the hooded robed capes and stuff. The capes i can do without because they arent in hOtu. Well I love it all. And Ezindir, you seem to be a fellow FR hardcore lover like myself. I would love to talk to you sometime, email sometime at carterharrington@Yahoo.com. Maybe we can get online and talk, or just email, but I have a great lounging mod (with hottubs). So try me sometime. -Kaervok- |
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Upuaut
Acolyte
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 05:03:38
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ok.. There is "control" issues with the NPC's in NWN. I think that they were going for a game which was more about roleplaying, which seems more realistic when one only has a single character to run around with. I'm pretty happy with it myself, but I can see how it differs from the other games a bit.
Looks of character, as has been mentioned, has changed a bit, and can be suited even more closely to one's taste with script mods and wire frame alterations. I'm not going to go there myself. I figure cloaks and such will probebly be out in the next expansion. HoTU epanded it with robes, I'm sure other custom looks are coming for the characters. |
"When the white eagle of the North is flying overhead
And the browns, reds and gold of autumn lie in the gutter, dead.
Remember then the summer bird with wings of fire flaying
Come to witness spring's new hope, born of leaves decaying." |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 05:37:10
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| You can find haks for cloaks and quivers on NWVault, if you're interested. |
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Upuaut
Acolyte
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 11:42:23
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Thanks for the link. I forget that some of us may not know where that stuff is.
Just keep in mind that any alterations on wireframes will create the necessity for players to download a hakpak. These can get quite bit when you start altering things like the wireframe. Personaly I'm trying to work with the limitations as best I can to avoid any of my players being forced to download anything. There's so much to learn without the hassle of added cloaks. :) |
"When the white eagle of the North is flying overhead
And the browns, reds and gold of autumn lie in the gutter, dead.
Remember then the summer bird with wings of fire flaying
Come to witness spring's new hope, born of leaves decaying." |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 22:31:23
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| HotU's robes look quite good, in my opinion. |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2004 : 23:23:05
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You know there are ways to import your own avatars into the game, Ezindir. (if that is what you meant by the mages looking like clowns)
You need a good photo editing program like Photoshop or Paintshop Pro, etc and have to know how to use it to change the image/pixel size of the avatar you want to use, but it can be done.
I have a txt doc that I could send you that tells how to do it if you're interested. I was able to use my avatar from here in the game. 
BTW - you really should get the expansion paks for NWN. the stuff they added to them makes it even better than the original game. |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
Yasraena T'Sarran
Harper of Silverymoon |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2004 : 00:03:34
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| I dont know whether or not Ezindir is interested, but I for one am. Plz send me these documents, if its not too much trouble |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2004 : 03:35:44
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| You can also find that information here. |
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Upuaut
Acolyte
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2004 : 05:27:04
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| At least Undertide, and Hordes were cheap. I think they run 29.99 here in the US. Not a bad price for the expanded tilesets, wireframes, and scripts. Plus the Hordes module is just far better than the original game. Anyway.. to get a whole new game for only 29.99 instead of 69 bucks is a real bonus in my book. (online modules are free in most cases) |
"When the white eagle of the North is flying overhead
And the browns, reds and gold of autumn lie in the gutter, dead.
Remember then the summer bird with wings of fire flaying
Come to witness spring's new hope, born of leaves decaying." |
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Yasraena
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2004 : 06:34:05
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Originally posted by Arivia
You can also find that information here.
Yes, that is exactly what my txt doc contains. I seem to remember getting it from a fan site somewhere. They probably just cut and pasted the text right from the bioware site. Man, that site just ROCKS! Thanx for the link, Arivia.
(and for saving me the trouble of having to email it out!  ) |
"Nindyn vel'uss malar verin z'klaen tlu kyone ulu naut doera nindel vel'bolen nind malar."
Yasraena T'Sarran
Harper of Silverymoon |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2004 : 08:27:32
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Originally posted by Yasraena
You know there are ways to import your own avatars into the game, Ezindir. (if that is what you meant by the mages looking like clowns)
You need a good photo editing program like Photoshop or Paintshop Pro, etc and have to know how to use it to change the image/pixel size of the avatar you want to use, but it can be done.
I have a txt doc that I could send you that tells how to do it if you're interested. I was able to use my avatar from here in the game.
BTW - you really should get the expansion paks for NWN. the stuff they added to them makes it even better than the original game.
---------------------------------------------------------------I was talking about the way the mages look, not their avatars, the way their body look. For exampel in BG you have long wide hooded robes, but in NWN you have this comic looking clothes, looks almost like Roobin Hood in his tights. |
Learn about the Ways of Vhaeraun .
- Check out my bio, majore update
- The Wanderers Quest
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Kaervok
Seeker
USA
63 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2004 : 22:03:25
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| Lol, Ezindir, I can see where your coming from. But its great, in the Hotu, you have a special skill that allows you to change your clothing appearance, ex-adding robes and stuff, and also, you can change your weapon appearance, but thats for a few gold. You can craft wands and do amazingly fun things. I really suggest you get them, they are great. Kaervok. |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 11:15:32
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| Ofcourse 'we' will buy it! All 'we' need to do is bloody find it! |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 11:48:06
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| Not even close. [to my home, or my city even!] |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 12:12:20
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| I was planning on just waiting around till they get it in some shop around where I live. Shouldn't take so long... the shop is usually only 1 - 3 months behind the release date |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 21:12:20
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Ah, well thats enlightening..... Here in the US, we get our FR materials on time...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 21:54:44
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Well in Oslo we get it a little late, but from what Forgotten one has to tell I can see that have not anything to complain over.
It seemes too me that they have forgotten your hole hometown .
(HaHa!! I still think that is hilarius)
Feeles a little sorry for you too tought !!
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Learn about the Ways of Vhaeraun .
- Check out my bio, majore update
- The Wanderers Quest
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2004 : 23:14:04
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| You SHOULD! My ToB CD is destroyed as well! That's the last tiem I let *that* guy borrow my CDs! |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 08:08:48
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| If I may be so bold, why then did you let him borrow it in the first place? |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jan 2004 : 12:54:36
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| Errr.... 'cuz I'm a good friend, and he lends me games? (That he gets back INTACT, mind you) |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
895 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 09:38:45
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Let's see.
BIS' disbanding is truly sad, but most of its bulk is now reborn as Obsidian Entertainment. And, to follow Gromnir's school of thoughts, what has BIS really produced?
- Planescape: Torment - amazing game, but doesn't appeal to the majority of gamers. Therefore, financially not-as-successful-as-it-should-be.
- Fallout series - much like Torment, though minus the "amazing" bit. I could never stand the turn-based combat and so didn't play it.
- IWD/IWD2 - hack'n'slash on Infinity Engine. The first is great at what it does, but the second... I believe the BIS guys admitted that IWD2 was no "labor of love" and was essentially something built to cash in the fame of the first. Close to a fiasco, it was.
- Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader - great for the first half, goes downhill into the realm of "What the hell?" rapidly afterward. A failure financially and otherwise.
Two projects (or more?) were canceled: Torn, Jefferson (BG3), and FO3. Not exactly a shining resume, is it? Oh, and Interplay isn't acting very smartly. BG3 was near finishing and it got cancelled. Even if it came out as a bugfest the likes of which will shame Troika, it would still have sold somewhat because of the name Baldur's Gate. For anyone interested, here's a RPGCodex article - http://www.rpgcodex.com/content.php?id=94
It's a snarky article, and I disagree with some of it, but the bits about Interplay are quite amusing and, sadly, true.
As for Bioware not doing FR anymore... I say, eh. IMO, their KotOR was one hell of a lot better than NWN and its expansion packs in every way, minus the lack of toolset. Maybe they're losing interest in FR or D&D. We shall see if their own original settings are any good. On the whole, though, FR/D&D electronic RPG department seems pretty bleak. The recent products:
BG: Dark Alliance - console. Hack'n'slash. Not even worth mentioning.
Greyhawk: Temple of Elemental Evil - not FR, but D&D. A big, big flop. Full of bugs, laughable writing, laughable "design decicions", has nothing going for it but combat, and even that gets old really fast. Almost unplayable at some point because the game'll slow down -- and no, it's not your CPU; it's the memory leak monster at work -- and/or crash to desktop repeatedly. I don't know why Troika even bothers anymore, especially after the not-so-good Arcanum. I bet people'll be a lot more leery now when they release Vampires: Bloodlines.
Forgotten Realms/DA2 - soon-to-come. Hack'n'slash, console. Again, not worth mentioning. |
Edited by - Winterfox on 24 Jan 2004 09:55:53 |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 16:40:29
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| I found Dark Alliance to be pretty good.... for a console game. |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jan 2004 : 17:44:27
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Originally posted by Forgotten One
I found Dark Alliance to be pretty good.... for a console game.
I agree. As ive said before, BG:DA made a nice change to not be caught up in a lot of role-playing stats and have a bit of the old sword-swinging, Diablo-style gaming. And im far from a hack-n-slash lover, my campaigns are heavy roleplay based and uncommon combat orientated. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
895 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2004 : 08:19:03
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| Yes, yes, the DA games are what they are -- hack'n'slash. But they are not RPGs, which is precisely why I think the CRPG market, or RPGs related to D&D at all, looks very bleak. |
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Bioware might quit with Forgotten Realms..
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