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Roboginger
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 28 Dec 2011 : 18:45:14
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Does any one else ever have trouble keeping a stories straight if the city and character names are hard to pronounce? like if there are too many consonants and not enough vowels. Its like if I can't say them in my head I can't keep the story straight.
Examples: Umdsam,Dyngar,Ingddyn my examples leave a bit to be desired.
Anyone else experience this? or am I all by my lonesome...
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Edited by - Roboginger on 28 Dec 2011 18:46:06
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2011 : 19:21:15
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| As a longtime fan of fantasy writing, i have seen plenty of strange names. The key is to just sound it out clearly the first time you see it and it should be easier and easier to say. All of the examples you listed LOOK weird but are not actually difficult to pronounce. |
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2011 : 19:44:48
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| Having a few hard to pronounce names is OK, especially if a pronunciation guide is included in a glossary, but having too many of them takes away from the story, making it harder to read. |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1301 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2011 : 20:21:35
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| Rai-guy from Bob Salvatore's novels was the oddest name I think I came across. It didn't seem to fit in with the fantasy names like Jarlaxle, Drizzt, Kimmuriel and Bruenor. |
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LastStand
Learned Scribe
130 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2011 : 20:23:22
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| Usually difficult pronounced names does not bother me as much as when two characters in the same books has names that sound/look almost the same. |
"Don't. The battlegrounds that you and I have returned from alive are too different."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36912 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2011 : 20:46:32
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I don't like the name Heliogabalus.
Names with similar syllables really bug me, like Mari Al-Marien and Caledan Caldorian. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2011 : 21:06:42
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Names of dragons. Never liked them. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2011 : 01:02:26
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But Heliogabalus is a name with fine historic pedigree! My wiki link neglects to mention the frequent occurrence of this unwieldy polysyllabic name in Gilbert & Sullivan lyrics.
I do agree it does seem somewhat out of place in the Realms; I have difficulty imagining dwarves ever using a Latin tongue. I am mildly irritated whenever I read a D&D name formed from cool-sounding bad Dog Latin - although fortunately this has never been a strong tendency in the Realms, certainly not as much as in Dragonlance. |
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Roboginger
Acolyte
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2011 : 18:26:56
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Originally posted by Dennis
Names of dragons. Never liked them.
And some city names always got me as well. |
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Yoss
Learned Scribe
USA
259 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2012 : 20:28:58
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| Eversult. Way too easy to reverse the u and the l on that one and wonder wait, they have an entire town for skanky whores in Faerun? |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2012 : 09:06:47
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Ha! My thoughts exactly! |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36912 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2012 : 15:23:41
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Originally posted by Yoss
Eversult. Way too easy to reverse the u and the l on that one and wonder wait, they have an entire town for skanky whores in Faerun?
Never noticed that before...
Waterdeep does have a Slut Street, but Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2012 : 17:06:48
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Yoss
Eversult. Way too easy to reverse the u and the l on that one and wonder wait, they have an entire town for skanky whores in Faerun?
Never noticed that before...
Waterdeep does have a Slut Street, but Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it.
It's actually Elversult, though that's not necessarily much better. That just makes all the hard coin lads and lasses fey.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2012 : 01:25:52
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Yoss
Eversult. Way too easy to reverse the u and the l on that one and wonder wait, they have an entire town for skanky whores in Faerun?
Never noticed that before...
Waterdeep does have a Slut Street, but Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it.
It's actually Elversult, though that's not necessarily much better. That just makes all the hard coin lads and lasses fey.
Cheers
There is also a Slut Street in Dock Ward of Waterdeep, as the 2e City of Splendors confirms. |
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Kno
Senior Scribe
452 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2012 : 11:12:52
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| My tongue always twists because of Mulhorand |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2012 : 14:27:59
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Names with so many s's also annoy me. Usually they are dragons and kraken. |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2012 : 16:12:35
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Yoss
Eversult. Way too easy to reverse the u and the l on that one and wonder wait, they have an entire town for skanky whores in Faerun?
Never noticed that before...
Waterdeep does have a Slut Street, but Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it.
It's actually Elversult, though that's not necessarily much better. That just makes all the hard coin lads and lasses fey.
Cheers
There is also a Slut Street in Dock Ward of Waterdeep, as the 2e City of Splendors confirms.
What kind of shops can be found on Slut Street? |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2012 : 16:51:38
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Yoss
Eversult. Way too easy to reverse the u and the l on that one and wonder wait, they have an entire town for skanky whores in Faerun?
Never noticed that before...
Waterdeep does have a Slut Street, but Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it.
It's actually Elversult, though that's not necessarily much better. That just makes all the hard coin lads and lasses fey.
Cheers
There is also a Slut Street in Dock Ward of Waterdeep, as the 2e City of Splendors confirms.
What kind of shops can be found on Slut Street?
THOSE kind of shops. 
Apropriately enough, a long time ago, at the request of one of the gamers in my group, I queried Ed regarding "toys" in the Realms, and the sheer volume of Realmslore I received in response was enough to stun my player into shocked silence for a while. (This being a player who was VERY interested in the concept in the first place.) +1 for Ed.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2012 : 18:01:22
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Yoss
Eversult. Way too easy to reverse the u and the l on that one and wonder wait, they have an entire town for skanky whores in Faerun?
Never noticed that before...
Waterdeep does have a Slut Street, but Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it.
It's actually Elversult, though that's not necessarily much better. That just makes all the hard coin lads and lasses fey.
Cheers
There is also a Slut Street in Dock Ward of Waterdeep, as the 2e City of Splendors confirms.
What kind of shops can be found on Slut Street?
THOSE kind of shops.
Apropriately enough, a long time ago, at the request of one of the gamers in my group, I queried Ed regarding "toys" in the Realms, and the sheer volume of Realmslore I received in response was enough to stun my player into shocked silence for a while. (This being a player who was VERY interested in the concept in the first place.) +1 for Ed.
Cheers
lol, i just find it funny that Slut Street was used as opposed to something more "Fantastical" sounding...perhaps Harem's Way, or Brothel Ave.?  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36912 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2012 : 18:21:19
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Apropriately enough, a long time ago, at the request of one of the gamers in my group, I queried Ed regarding "toys" in the Realms, and the sheer volume of Realmslore I received in response was enough to stun my player into shocked silence for a while. (This being a player who was VERY interested in the concept in the first place.) +1 for Ed.
Cheers
That does make one wonder about "adult" magical items... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36912 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2012 : 18:22:02
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Originally posted by entreri3478
lol, i just find it funny that Slut Street was used as opposed to something more "Fantastical" sounding...perhaps Harem's Way, or Brothel Ave.?
Again, Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it. |
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Entromancer
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2012 : 18:22:18
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| When I read Sojourn for this first time, I remember looking at the map and thinking, "Wow, lots of towns with an -ar suffix. As far as Rai-Guy goes, it does sound offputting if you're referring to a drow. I preferred Rai'gy, which was the spelling in The Silent Blade, if I remember correctly. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2012 : 00:23:09
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Yoss
Eversult. Way too easy to reverse the u and the l on that one and wonder wait, they have an entire town for skanky whores in Faerun?
Never noticed that before...
Waterdeep does have a Slut Street, but Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it.
It's actually Elversult, though that's not necessarily much better. That just makes all the hard coin lads and lasses fey.
Cheers
There is also a Slut Street in Dock Ward of Waterdeep, as the 2e City of Splendors confirms.
What kind of shops can be found on Slut Street?
Not exactly what you'd expect, for the most part. There's brief mentions of what you can find in most Waterdeep-related sources. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2012 : 00:23:53
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Apropriately enough, a long time ago, at the request of one of the gamers in my group, I queried Ed regarding "toys" in the Realms, and the sheer volume of Realmslore I received in response was enough to stun my player into shocked silence for a while. (This being a player who was VERY interested in the concept in the first place.) +1 for Ed.
Cheers
That does make one wonder about "adult" magical items...
If you recall, I've got a pending query with Ed on exactly that subject.
All for just legitimate curiosity... of course. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2012 : 00:25:09
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by entreri3478
lol, i just find it funny that Slut Street was used as opposed to something more "Fantastical" sounding...perhaps Harem's Way, or Brothel Ave.?
Again, Ed has clarified that the word does not have the same meaning in the Realms that we have for it.
It's worth noting that while the context and meaning of the word may not be exactly the same, that doesn't also mean that such locales won't be found on this street. Just that the street name and the locales one should find there, aren't directly related -- at least in terms of the Realms. |
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rjfras
Learned Scribe
261 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2012 : 00:44:22
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I queried Ed regarding "toys" in the Realms, and the sheer volume of Realmslore I received in response was enough to stun my player into shocked silence for a while.
Cheers
wait... how do we get our hands on said realmslore?  |
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