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Portella
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 Posted - 06 Nov 2011 : 21:26:45
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Right once again i have been looking at the faith, the dogma and credo of the deities of faerun. Of all i find the clerigs of Sune the hardest to play in adventures also entropy pain difficult to get it right... mind you it is only subjective but i feel i have to be true to my deity what do you guys and girls do? do you play it the best you can, do you ignore the faith dogma entirely or are you as rash to say "heay you chose the god of death boy! you downed character must refuse any healing now since this is what he has been preparing for the start of his death, the end of this forbidding life!!!!" *gets new character sheet and start rolling the dice* "ok, i grab my bag of holding and cast with my last wishing breath rope inside it.", dm "what the second level spell!!??", clerig *nodding* "hmm huh."
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Edited by - Portella on 06 Nov 2011 21:32:57
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Kentinal
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Posted - 06 Nov 2011 : 21:32:21
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Originally posted by Portella
Right once again i have been looking at the faith, the dogma and credo of the deities of faerun. Of all i find the clerigs of Sune the hardest to play in adventures also entropy pain difficult to get it right... mind you it is only subjective but i feel i have to be true to my deity what do you guys and girls do? do you play it tye best you can, do you ignore the faith dogma entirely or are you as rash to say "heay you chse the god of death boy! you downed caracter must refuse any healing now since this is what he has been preparing for the start of his death, the end of this forbidding life!!!!" *gets new character sheet and start rolling the dice*
The better question might be why you select Cleric of a Deity you do not believe you can play?
Hmm, seems you got an edit in before I started a reply. If DM imposing deity on you, it is abuse of power. Get a new DM. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Portella
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Nov 2011 : 21:43:51
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| No no, no one is imposing anything i just like a challenge playing difficult characters is fun, difficult and rewarding when you pull it off. just like getting the script and a role giving to you on a play. mind you that was an example god of death etc. in truth i would have been scared in real life and chicken out and taken the healing the inner turmoil in character would have been honey to the bees for me i would relish of the opportunity to grow what could be a very interesting character. damn .. anyhow just wondering what is everyones opinion and or experience have you played a difficult character from a deity with a difficult structure or belief? |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 06 Nov 2011 : 22:07:54
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Ohm, hey I can be a Paladin, to a Demon. That is not a problem for me. It is a role. If the character wants to run into buildings so be it. Does not even take a Paladin to do that. If the character wants to burn children, that is their mission and will so do so.
What it appears you face is if you can well act (role play) an Evil Character. This question only you can answer. Can you back stab, can you fireball a peasant farm and so on in play? What really matters is can you understand the basics of the religion. Entropy wants all to end, just as a tool the character must be last of one to end.
Sune of course far different from destruction. Red hair, might be a problem, however overall she appears to be concerned with romance and/or love. Not sure what the problem you are facing with this. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Portella
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Nov 2011 : 13:51:36
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Sorry Kentinal I think you are reading to much into things all that I want to know is if anyone else had any difficulty playing cleric's or any other class in the realms.
I find evil characters very fun to role play however as any thing being really evil in the alignment scale (chaotic evil) or good, can present some difficulties wrestling with that is another topic for another day unless some one would like to share any examples these will be welcome.
I find Sune a little bit deeper then just romance I will continue my readings and look for some more info on the books that I have. Just need to understand it a bit better.
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Farrel
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Nov 2011 : 14:20:56
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Prior to starting my latest campaign, my friend and I ran a short, but very detailed, set of games featuring evil player characters.
He chose a Cleric of Bane with the goal of becoming a Dreadmaster. I went for a Sorcerer/Cleric of Bhaal with the intention of trying a Mystic Theurge.
This was my first evil character and it will probably be my only one, he was a lot of fun to play but I admit that I found it very tough to roleplay such a fiend.
One thing that did become apparent is that my friend is alot better at being evil than me  |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Nov 2011 : 14:54:02
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Originally posted by Farrel
Prior to starting my latest campaign, my friend and I ran a short, but very detailed, set of games featuring evil player characters.
He chose a Cleric of Bane with the goal of becoming a Dreadmaster. I went for a Sorcerer/Cleric of Bhaal with the intention of trying a Mystic Theurge.
This was my first evil character and it will probably be my only one, he was a lot of fun to play but I admit that I found it very tough to roleplay such a fiend.
One thing that did become apparent is that my friend is alot better at being evil than me
I love evil characters  |
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Farrel
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 07 Nov 2011 : 15:21:07
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Originally posted by entreri3478
I love evil characters
It was a great change of pace and a fantastic set of games. The campaign has been left idle, it'd be good to pick it back up at some stage.
Kaell "Sorrowblade" Melarn
Male Tethyrian Human Cleric3/Sorcerer4/Mystic Theurge1
LE Medium Humanoid (human)
He was/is alot of fun to play but I guess I just prefer goodly alignments |
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Eli the Tanner
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Posted - 21 Nov 2011 : 16:26:14
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The trouble most people find with evil characters is that it can be tricky to have their goals and behavior fit alongside other player characters. Often this creates group disharmony and distrust or at least a lot of meta-roleplaying to preserve the status quo.
However it is possible to play an evil character constructively...even alongside good characters.
I played a Fighter/Wizard shadow weave user who was apprenticed to a Lich, unbeknownst to the other group members (which included a paladin). Soon my character decided to supplant his lich master once he had learnt enough and this is where he began using the group.
After 'researching' evils in the area...my character suggested the group try to take down the Lich, a quest the paladin and others happily took up. Of course the spoils went to the victor (accordingly the lich's magic and research was left in my capable hands).
We then became a group known for hunting down sources of shadow magic, the paladin even became a knight of the weave...steered unknowingly by my own shadowed hand.
Of course, you may need to talk with the DM but if you can align your plans with whichever group you are playing in then there should be little problem. Give your evilness some rationale...think about his motivation and aims rather than simply 'acting evil' and you will find it can be quite a rich roleplaying experience. |
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Wolfhound75
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Posted - 21 Nov 2011 : 22:55:37
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Eli is right that thinking of your motivations will help. I tend to play my evil characters with grand, secret designs. Typically I seek to influence and manipulate as my primary method of being evil.
Also, I've always found that a slight shift in my viewpoint of 'evil' vs. 'good' helps me when RPing an evil character. I view 'evil' from the standpoint that it doesn't always entail wanton destruction and blood-letting, though most evil characters do engage in that behavior in some way, shape, or form during their progression. I look at 'evil' characters/actions as those that have no regard for the opposite view of 'good' characters/actions which is the sanctity of life.
To simplify an example, if an NPC is opposed to the party/evil PC, the 'good' members would seek to negotiate or circumvent that impediment without necessarily killing that opposing NPC, such as a government official, perhaps. My evil character's viewpoint would be more akin to, 'what is the quickest way to get rid of this obstacle?' If sticking a knife through that officials ribs while he is walking home one night was the answer, my evil PC might just do that, whether the rest of party knew about it or not. Then again, he may seek to play one group off the other to maximize his opportunities for manipulation and increase the chance to inflict greater amounts of pain or suffering.
If your character is based on entropy and pain, perhaps her grand design could be to bring about the end of the multiverse or at least a good chunk of the realms. There are ways to be sadistic in combat also. Who says that humanoid monster you took down out of sight of the rest of the party has to die quickly with a sword in it's gut? Maybe you interrogate it a bit and perhaps 'coerce' an answer. Or when you see that begger urchin child asking for coins, you cast a fire spell into your copper piece and heat it to the point it will burn their hands when they pick it up (something I saw being done using a blowtorch in a 3rd world country and was personally appalled).
Just the thoughts of a new poster on the forums. Evil characters can definatly be a rewarding role playing experience but they do take some extra thought and effort as I would bet most of our natures RL would be good or neutral. Enjoy, it sounds like a challenging, but interesting PC build! |
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