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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  17:51:41  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by entreri3478

I am probably going to start the Malazan Book of the Fallen series...and have noticed that those covers are great.

That's one of the many series I read out of order. Some of the books are good, some are great, and some are very forgettable. Sometimes I wonder if it really deserves all the praises it's been receiving.

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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  18:06:10  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

My purpose in posting that earlier was just to suggest that authors may or may not get to determine their titles. Often, it's one of the things the editor will point out and tweak.

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I have the impression Richard is given such "freedom." I heard he was the one who chose The Masked Witches as the title of his up and coming Brotherhood of the Griffon novel. And I must say that title is quite interesting.
And Ed is, too, I guess.
My situation might also have to do with having written books that are tied-in to other standalone series. Ghostwalker was part of a series named after prestige classes. Downshadow had to conform to the naming convention they had for the Ed Greenwood Presents series, which is neighborhood/setting sorts of names. Now that I'm writing a series of my own (similar to what RLB is doing), I'm finding more freedom to name my books. Shadowbane and Eye of Justice were my original titles.

Maybe I'm mostly thinking of my original title for Depths of Madness, which is very different from what it ended up being. Not that I have any complaints--I do rather like the final title.

Cheers

I see.

While the title is very important to me, ultimately, it's the blurb and/or the prologue/first chapter that make me decide whether to buy the book or not. A Darkness at Sethanon and Into a Dark Realm by Raymond E. Feist come to mind. Such boring-sounding titles should have kept me away from them, but I knew better...

And of course, when an author is my favorite, I hardly care for the title, cover, nor blurb. I would buy any book that has his/her name on it.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  18:28:39  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

I am probably going to start the Malazan Book of the Fallen series...and have noticed that those covers are great.

That's one of the many series I read out of order. Some of the books are good, some are great, and some are very forgettable. Sometimes I wonder if it really deserves all the praises it's been receiving.



Have you read the Tyrants and Kings series by John Marco? The first book was The Jackal of Nar.

Some people have a way with words, and other people...oh, uh, not have way. -Steve Martin

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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  18:39:14  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

I am probably going to start the Malazan Book of the Fallen series...and have noticed that those covers are great.

That's one of the many series I read out of order. Some of the books are good, some are great, and some are very forgettable. Sometimes I wonder if it really deserves all the praises it's been receiving.


Have you read the Tyrants and Kings series by John Marco? The first book was The Jackal of Nar.

Not yet. But it's in my To-Buy List.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  18:44:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Dennis


While the title is very important to me, ultimately, it's the blurb and/or the prologue/first chapter that make me decide whether to buy the book or not. A Darkness at Sethanon and Into a Dark Realm by Raymond E. Feist come to mind. Such boring-sounding titles should have kept me away from them, but I knew better...

And of course, when an author is my favorite, I hardly care for the title, cover, nor blurb. I would buy any book that has his/her name on it.



I'm the same way. I discovered Feist by chance in my school library. The cover art (Magician: Master) appealed to me, so I picked it the book. The back cover blurb was interesting, so I checked out the book. My school only had that book and Silverthorn, but I enjoyed them both, so I looked for more. It took me a while to find any of the other books, but by the time Prince of the Blood came out, I was willing to read anything by Feist. And I still am.

There aren't many books that I'll pick up purely based on who wrote them, but there are a few authors that I trust enough to do that.

Incidentally, when I discovered Feist, I was just discovering the fantasy genre -- I might have ignored the cover art on that book, otherwise. I'd dipped my toes into fantasy before, but that was mostly with the Endless Quest books and other variable-ending types. On that long-ago day in 8th grade, I decided to see what other fantasy books (other than Elfstones of Shannara) my school had. And I've read mostly fantasy since then.

And the only reason I looked into Elfstones of Shannara was because I was looking for something to read, and I'd overheard a couple of friends at my previous school discussing the book.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  18:56:13  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

I am probably going to start the Malazan Book of the Fallen series...and have noticed that those covers are great.

That's one of the many series I read out of order. Some of the books are good, some are great, and some are very forgettable. Sometimes I wonder if it really deserves all the praises it's been receiving.


Have you read the Tyrants and Kings series by John Marco? The first book was The Jackal of Nar.

Not yet. But it's in my To-Buy List.



I loved that series, and really hope that Marco returns for a follow-up series in the same setting. His other series was good too, but the Nar books are GREAT...IMHO of course

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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  19:19:47  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I heard some people comparing that series to GRRM's.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  20:32:07  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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I heard some people comparing that series to GRRM's.



When large epic fantasy books are in question I believe people will always compare between the authors. I love George R R Martin's series so far, and i love John Marco's as well. Both had a distinct flavor for me and were great in different ways. Some of the huge war scenes in Marco's Tyrants and Kings were amazing. I think i might have to re-read those soon

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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 :  21:26:42  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


While the title is very important to me, ultimately, it's the blurb and/or the prologue/first chapter that make me decide whether to buy the book or not. A Darkness at Sethanon and Into a Dark Realm by Raymond E. Feist come to mind. Such boring-sounding titles should have kept me away from them, but I knew better...

And of course, when an author is my favorite, I hardly care for the title, cover, nor blurb. I would buy any book that has his/her name on it.



There aren't many books that I'll pick up purely based on who wrote them, but there are a few authors that I trust enough to do that.

Same here. In fact, I can count them by my fingers.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 08 Oct 2011 :  11:52:15  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Erik Scott de Bie

Maybe I'm mostly thinking of my original title for Depths of Madness, which is very different from what it ended up being. Not that I have any complaints--I do rather like the final title.
The original title, Erik? Just curious, now that you've brought it up. Also surprised; I would've thought a book's title was most definitely decided by the book's author.

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