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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  14:30:24  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
A similar post has probably been done in the past but: What is your favorite Forgotten Realms book cover of all time? (old cover art and new). A tough decision to be sure, but for me it is probably either the original Shadowdale, or the original Darkwell. When i look at both they remind me of great stories, but they also just remind me of some good old fashioned roleplaying. :)

On the flip side: What is your least favorite cover of all time? This one for me is much harder to answer because much of the new cover art doesn't appeal to me. I prefer the older classic cover styles. Many of the new covers seem too flashy and busy for me.

Thoughts??

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Clad In Shadows
Learned Scribe

Canada
158 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  17:37:06  Show Profile Send Clad In Shadows a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Best:
I'm a big fan of the War Of The Spider Queen covers by Brom.

Worst:
*original* The Legacy
*original* Starless Night
*original* The Twilight Giants trilogy
*original* Daughter Of The Drow
*original* Tangled Webs

There's a reason these books had new covers made, imo.
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Dennis
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9933 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  17:57:57  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

My favorite so far, as I mentioned in the thread I started, is The Captive Flame. Great details and captivating colors.

What I dislike the most is the original cover art of Daughter of the Drow, which I happen to have. [The cover alone nearly prompted me to buy the reprinted version]

Every beginning has an end.

Edited by - Dennis on 25 Aug 2011 17:59:07
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader

USA
3131 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  19:28:23  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Clad In Shadows

Best:
I'm a big fan of the War Of The Spider Queen covers by Brom.

Worst:
*original* The Legacy
*original* Starless Night
*original* The Twilight Giants trilogy
*original* Daughter Of The Drow
*original* Tangled Webs

There's a reason these books had new covers made, imo.



I am with you 100% on the Legacy of the Drow series covers. I can't remember which, but either Daughter of the Drow or Tangled Webs made Liriel look way too chubby.

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Merrith
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135 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  19:30:39  Show Profile  Visit Merrith's Homepage Send Merrith a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 2 newest Elminster books have fantastic covers. The War of the Spider Queen series also were all top notch. I really like the cover to Gauntlgrym, The Thousand Orcs, and The Lone Drow as well.
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phranctoast
Learned Scribe

USA
151 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2011 :  20:18:36  Show Profile Send phranctoast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Insurrection
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm102017069/insurrection-thomas-m-reid-paperback-cover-art.jpg

Elminster in Hell
http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/5/59/Elminster_in_Hell.jpg

quote:
I am with you 100% on the Legacy of the Drow series covers. I can't remember which, but either Daughter of the Drow or Tangled Webs made Liriel look way too chubby.


voluptuous more so than one would expect of an elf but definitely not chubby

I like Tangled Webs too.
http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/0/01/Tangled_Webs2.jpg

Currently reading: Spider and Stone by Jaleigh Johnson: Sequel to Mistshore

Edited by - phranctoast on 25 Aug 2011 20:23:28
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader

USA
3131 Posts

Posted - 26 Aug 2011 :  13:53:23  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by phranctoast

Insurrection
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm102017069/insurrection-thomas-m-reid-paperback-cover-art.jpg

Elminster in Hell
http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/5/59/Elminster_in_Hell.jpg

quote:
I am with you 100% on the Legacy of the Drow series covers. I can't remember which, but either Daughter of the Drow or Tangled Webs made Liriel look way too chubby.


voluptuous more so than one would expect of an elf but definitely not chubby

I like Tangled Webs too.
http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/0/01/Tangled_Webs2.jpg



LOL i'm not an artist but it does seem that many Realms artist have problems getting the drow correct...at least compared to how i picture them in my mind

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Clad In Shadows
Learned Scribe

Canada
158 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2011 :  17:20:07  Show Profile Send Clad In Shadows a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by phranctoast

Insurrection
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm102017069/insurrection-thomas-m-reid-paperback-cover-art.jpg

Elminster in Hell
http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/5/59/Elminster_in_Hell.jpg

quote:
I am with you 100% on the Legacy of the Drow series covers. I can't remember which, but either Daughter of the Drow or Tangled Webs made Liriel look way too chubby.


voluptuous more so than one would expect of an elf but definitely not chubby

I like Tangled Webs too.
http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/0/01/Tangled_Webs2.jpg



I like the new covers. It's the old ones that I can't stand:

http://www.o-love.net/realms/covers_large/pic_sta1_tsr.jpg

http://www.o-love.net/realms/covers_large/pic_sta2_tsr.jpg
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Clad In Shadows
Learned Scribe

Canada
158 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2011 :  17:30:43  Show Profile Send Clad In Shadows a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by entreri3478

quote:
Originally posted by phranctoast

Insurrection
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm102017069/insurrection-thomas-m-reid-paperback-cover-art.jpg

Elminster in Hell
http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/5/59/Elminster_in_Hell.jpg

quote:
I am with you 100% on the Legacy of the Drow series covers. I can't remember which, but either Daughter of the Drow or Tangled Webs made Liriel look way too chubby.


voluptuous more so than one would expect of an elf but definitely not chubby

I like Tangled Webs too.
http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/0/01/Tangled_Webs2.jpg



LOL i'm not an artist but it does seem that many Realms artist have problems getting the drow correct...at least compared to how i picture them in my mind


I think artists for the older books (Homeland, The Legacy, Starless Night, etc) didn't seem to get the drow right at all. They were drawn with light skin, for starters. And Drizzt looks like an old man in The Legacy and Starless Night. Drow seem to be drawn much better these days.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4598 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2011 :  18:47:58  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a fan of the newer covers over the older ones. Not that the older ones are bad, IMO, but I just prefer some of the newer.

I feel particularly blessed with some of the covers that have appeared on my books:

Ghostwalker: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/forgotten-realms-erik-scott-de-bie/1103164948

Downshadow: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/downshadow-erik-scott-de-bie/1100190331 (That's an artist's rendering of the Grim Statue in Undermountain, btw.)

Shadowbane: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/shadowbane-erik-scott-de-bie/1102955200

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore

Canada
1304 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2011 :  18:53:27  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Favourite is too hard, but the Pool of Radiance and Azure Bonds covers both evoke nostalgic introduction to the realms feelings for me, so they are right up there. Also the covers of the Avatar Trilogy (I mean the Clyde Caldwell originals, the reprints are so lifeless and awful with their single god on purple/black...ugh).

Funny how you have the Yawning Portal cover from Waterdeep as your avatar pic, Erik, if you prefer the new covers ;)
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4598 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2011 :  19:08:51  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seravin

Funny how you have the Yawning Portal cover from Waterdeep as your avatar pic, Erik, if you prefer the new covers ;)
I am a man of mystery.

But seriously, I rather like the original Avatar trilogy covers, Waterdeep in particular. Also, Kelemvor = rock.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Ayrik
Great Reader

Canada
8035 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2011 :  23:23:22  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol @ Erik, you're such a shameless opportunist, awesome, I love it.

They say you can't judge a book by its cover anyhow. Of course I'm constantly guilty of judging books by the little text blurbs, and though I generally don't much care for the artwork my eye still gets lured by images of swords and liches and seductive females. Conversely, my eye tends to skip past shoddy artwork and dull text legends, only coming back when directed away from the flashy stuff. More costly-looking cover art does typically promise higher overall production value, whether I happen to like the art or not.

None of these pictures of drow women arouse me, blue chicks just don't interest me nearly as much as real chicks. This was my favourite piece of D&D art for a long time, for obvious reasons.

[/Ayrik]

Edited by - Ayrik on 29 Aug 2011 23:24:34
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
31799 Posts

Posted - 30 Aug 2011 :  02:52:08  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by Seravin

Funny how you have the Yawning Portal cover from Waterdeep as your avatar pic, Erik, if you prefer the new covers ;)
I am a man of mystery.
You've travelled abroad, right Erik?

So does that mean we can start calling you the "International Man of Mystery?"

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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader

USA
3131 Posts

Posted - 30 Aug 2011 :  03:10:29  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by Seravin

Funny how you have the Yawning Portal cover from Waterdeep as your avatar pic, Erik, if you prefer the new covers ;)
I am a man of mystery.
You've travelled abroad, right Erik?

So does that mean we can start calling you the "International Man of Mystery?"



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Dennis
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Posted - 30 Aug 2011 :  08:16:09  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arik

This was my favourite piece of D&D art for a long time, for obvious reasons.


Heh. That cover discouraged me to buy the novel. Thankfully, since the book was used and really cheap, I bought it anyway.

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Seravin
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 30 Aug 2011 :  14:55:22  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That was the cover of a Gold Box game, Dennis...therefore it is untouchable and must be praised :)

Hehe seriously tho, that cover is in my opinion wonderful. Clyde Caldwell is underrated!
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Dennis
Great Reader

9933 Posts

Posted - 31 Aug 2011 :  07:25:19  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I dunno. I guess the green lizard creature and Alias's costume ruined it for me. Don't like the colors, either. Too accentuated.

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Quale
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 31 Aug 2011 :  12:38:57  Show Profile Send Quale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Insurrection is the worst cover, agreed
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Dennis
Great Reader

9933 Posts

Posted - 31 Aug 2011 :  13:04:14  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Quale

Insurrection is the worst cover, agreed

I would have to disgree. I think it's the old cover of Daughter of the Drow. Since when did Liriel become chubby?! And their attire looks like what's found in carnivals.

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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 31 Aug 2011 :  13:28:56  Show Profile  Visit ElaineCunningham's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Fred Fields, the artist who painted the first edition cover of Daughter of the Drow, did a self-portrait for Fyodor and painted his significant other for Liriel, complete with the feathered, post-Farrah hair style. Oy gevalt.

Even worse, imo, was the original cover of Tangled Webs, which depicted Liriel facing off against an illithid. The illithid, btw, had distinctly mammalian tendencies, which prompted one reader to observe, "Holy crap! The squid is stacked!" Another reader described the cover as "a freeze-frame from a bad dance video." Yet another followed with a filk version of the BeeGees song "Flayin' Alive." ("Brain is fire, she needs an underwire but she's flayin' alive, flayin' alive....")

Good times on AOL's TSR forum.

Yes, I'm old. Deal with it.

Edited by - ElaineCunningham on 31 Aug 2011 13:34:04
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Dennis
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Posted - 31 Aug 2011 :  13:40:15  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I love the Flayin Alive!

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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader

USA
3131 Posts

Posted - 02 Sep 2011 :  14:33:44  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by Quale

Insurrection is the worst cover, agreed

I would have to disgree. I think it's the old cover of Daughter of the Drow. Since when did Liriel become chubby?! And their attire looks like what's found in carnivals.



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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 02 Sep 2011 :  16:10:29  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

lol @ Erik, you're such a shameless opportunist, awesome, I love it.
I won't deny that, though in this case I will say that I really sincerely love those covers I linked. I cannot explain how pleased I was to see Ghostwalker's cover for the first time--how well it captured the essence of my character.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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Elsenrail
Seeker

Poland
72 Posts

Posted - 04 Sep 2011 :  16:09:36  Show Profile Send Elsenrail a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't have one favourite cover. All the art done by Raymond Swanland is suberb. Fortunately, his work on the covers of FR novels isn't rare. :)
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Tyranthraxus
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04 Sep 2011 :  16:22:26  Show Profile  Visit Tyranthraxus's Homepage Send Tyranthraxus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love the original covers of the Icewind Dale trilogy and the Avatar trilogy, and the covers of the Finder's Stone trilogy. These were the first Realms novels I've read and they have a special place in my heart.

quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

Fred Fields, the artist who painted the first edition cover of Daughter of the Drow, did a self-portrait for Fyodor and painted his significant other for Liriel, complete with the feathered, post-Farrah hair style. Oy gevalt.

Even worse, imo, was the original cover of Tangled Webs, which depicted Liriel facing off against an illithid. The illithid, btw, had distinctly mammalian tendencies, which prompted one reader to observe, "Holy crap! The squid is stacked!" Another reader described the cover as "a freeze-frame from a bad dance video." Yet another followed with a filk version of the BeeGees song "Flayin' Alive." ("Brain is fire, she needs an underwire but she's flayin' alive, flayin' alive....")

Good times on AOL's TSR forum.

Yes, I'm old. Deal with it.



I scared the hell out of my GF when I spontaneously laughted out loud after reading "flayin' alive". Brilliant.
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swifty
Senior Scribe

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Sep 2011 :  11:10:34  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
neversfall is great.and i must mention darkwalker on moonshae.that cover sucked me in 24 years ago and hasnt let go.

go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS.
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Dennis
Great Reader

9933 Posts

Posted - 21 Sep 2011 :  12:17:42  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by swifty

neversfall is great.

It has an eerie feel that really grabs attention.

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rhune
Acolyte

11 Posts

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I've always liked the original cover of "Spellfire." I always enjoyed the older covers as well. Looking at some of the newer artwork, things look much darker in comparison. I will admit though, I haven't seen a whole lot of the newer artwork.

Also enjoy the original "Elfshadow" cover--Danilo and Arilyn really jump out at you in a "Taste my Moonblade" sort of way.

Least favorite would probably be "Stormlight." That cover just never looked good to me.
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Dennis
Great Reader

9933 Posts

Posted - 23 Sep 2011 :  16:02:08  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rhune

Least favorite would probably be "Stormlight." That cover just never looked good to me.

The only thing I like about it is Storm's pose.

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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader

USA
3131 Posts

Posted - 23 Sep 2011 :  16:05:51  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis

quote:
Originally posted by rhune

Least favorite would probably be "Stormlight." That cover just never looked good to me.

The only thing I like about it is Storm's pose.



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