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Therise
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Posted - 14 Oct 2011 :  04:05:59  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Wizard

It's in the product catalog.

http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Product.aspx?x=dnd/products/dndacc/388510000

I'm looking forward to this. A friend recently became interesting board games. Might be a good chance to share something new and hang out besides the usual overpriced movie and comic/book store window shopping on a lazy Sunday.


Right, but is that the only pic?


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I didn't think this needed a seperate topic because so far it's only a listing on Amazon (with details though), but I found this while I was searching Amazon earlier. Halls of Undermountain. It's listed as a boardgame, but it sounds more like an RPG adventure with miniatures and tokens included in the description.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant

I didn't think this needed a seperate topic because so far it's only a listing on Amazon (with details though), but I found this while I was searching Amazon earlier. Halls of Undermountain. It's listed as a boardgame, but it sounds more like an RPG adventure with miniatures and tokens included in the description.



It is an RPG product, but let's just say the product description does not contain the most recent (or correct) description of what the product actually is. I don't want to talk about it until someone at Wizards gives me the AOK, but I have made them aware the product description is incorrect, and hopefully it will get fixed.

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Garen Thal
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Posted - 13 Jan 2012 :  14:30:38  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Updated information and photo in this month's In the Works column over at Wizards.com.

Check it out here.
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On the boardgamegeek site I linked earlier you can see more photos now too.

I'm definatly looking forward for this

Edit:
If someone uses twitter this could be interesting too:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/749466/waterdeep-wednesdays

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I can't wait for these glimpses of the rulebook!

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It's looking delightful. Funny how Rodney Thompson's come from swrpgnetwork.com to working on the Star Wars Roleplaying Game and now to the Realms.
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quote:
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It's looking delightful. Funny how Rodney Thompson's come from swrpgnetwork.com to working on the Star Wars Roleplaying Game and now to the Realms.

Thompson had a hand in d20 Modern development as well, with d20 Future and Future Tech, along with 3e D&D also, with Dragon Magic.

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I'm so excited about this, I'm a huge fan of german-styled gameboard (cause that's what it seems to be). Reading about it, the game looks like a variant of Puerto Rico, but then again, half the boardgames since Puerto Rico is like Puerto Rico!

Thanks Wizards, good move!

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This is what Ghostrider had to say about THE LORDS OF WATERDEEP GAME:

quote:
I got a chance to play Lords of Waterdeep at DDXP this past weekend (3 player game). Wow, it's awesome. I can't wait to get a copy for myself.

Gameplay: I don't like Euro games or resource management games but loved this. It really has something for everyone in it. I was overwhelmed with the rules in game setup and expected to dislike it but after just a round of play it became second nature.

Feel: It is FILLED with FR lore. I spent time reading a lot of the flavor text when I wasn't planning my next move.

Packaging: Top notch. Everything has it's home so no more plastic baggies for me.

Price: As others have said $50 is a little high for wooden blocks. There is a lot of game pieces though and the excellent interior packaging is a bonus. I won't bat an eye about the price because I thik the game has a lot going for it.

Bonus: You can play with 2 players. I know the wife and I will be getting a lot of fun out of this game.


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The Sage
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I really don't care what the price tag is like. I'm buying this game!

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Same here.

I recently got into Discworld: Ankh-Morpork with my old gaming group. We don't have time to meet up regularly for a tabletop RPG at the moment. Board games are a good alternative. I'm definitely adding Lords of Waterdeep it our growing line up.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Wizard

Same here.

I recently got into Discworld: Ankh-Morpork with my old gaming group.
Ooo! What's it like? I've been wondering about whether I should buy that one myself.

I love DISCWORLD, but don't have many players in the area who have the same interest.

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Dark Wizard
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Ooo! What's it like? I've been wondering about whether I should buy that one myself.

I love DISCWORLD, but don't have many players in the area who have the same interest.



I haven't read Discworld (blasphemy I know!). I gifted it to a friend for Christmas, he's a Discworld fan. Of course, then he needed people to play the game. We played several games, it was fun.

The randomness comes in the form of cards drawn. They are resources and actions players can expend. Some of the cards offer good rewards, but also consequences. In this case, all the major event trouble makers are wizards from Unseen University.

I'm not too familiar with 'Eurogames' but Discworld: Ankh-Morpork fits the description, resource management with wooden tokens/markers and event and action cards. The criticism may also hold true, the rules feel a bit grafted on. If we changed the names and map, the game would play virtually the same. I could play with the Ankh-Morpork rules on a map of Waterdeep, fudge a few names, and it would still work.

Ankh-Morpork is much like the description of Lords of Waterdeep. Each player draws one card from the Personalities deck. Each character card has a goal the player must accomplish to win the game, this is kept secret from the other players. Some of the goals play very different from the others. Players manage their resources to accomplish their given goal, typically control X number of city area or accumulate points. Some cards disrupt other players or their minions.

I would recommend it, but if you're getting Lords of Waterdeep, DW:AM likely plays very similar from what I read of the upcoming game. I'll have to play LoW to see.

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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 :  18:50:23  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The pre-order price on Amazon has dropped to $31.49* in the US. Not that you shouldn't support your FLGS and buy it there if you can afford it, but for those who cannot afford it, maybe this price will work better for you.

*Amazon gives you the lowest pre-order price that occurs after you place your order. So if you order now and it drops lower, then you will get it at the lower price; but if you wait to order and the price goes up, then you will end up paying the higher price. Also, you can cancel a pre-order as long as you do so before they ship it. =)

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Posted - 03 Feb 2012 :  21:36:32  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

The pre-order price on Amazon has dropped to $31.49* in the US. Not that you shouldn't support your FLGS and buy it there if you can afford it, but for those who cannot afford it, maybe this price will work better for you.

*Amazon gives you the lowest pre-order price that occurs after you place your order. So if you order now and it drops lower, then you will get it at the lower price; but if you wait to order and the price goes up, then you will end up paying the higher price. Also, you can cancel a pre-order as long as you do so before they ship it. =)



Thanks for the link! I was iffy about buying a $50 board game sight unseen...

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I am still on the fence about it. I think I need to bring it up to my wife. If it is out of my personal funds (stuff from freelancing, small work bonuses, and similar such things), then I cannot afford it. But if I can sell her on us buying it for our family, then I can probably get it.

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Hmm... this might be the first WotC product I am likely to buy in many years (Grand History of the Realms was the last one, and that was shortly after it was published...)

I love Catan and a bunch of other boardgames and this might make the FR acceptance by my significant other half a little easier since she also loves Catan & co
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Seems kind of expensive to me. I'll have a gander at the boardgame geek link from earlier in the scroll.

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The price seems consistent with similar games such as WotC's other D&D based board games or even Discworld: Ankh-Morpork. Though I suppose it really depends on how often you will play it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Hawkins

The pre-order price on Amazon has dropped to $31.49* in the US. Not that you shouldn't support your FLGS and buy it there if you can afford it, but for those who cannot afford it, maybe this price will work better for you.

*Amazon gives you the lowest pre-order price that occurs after you place your order. So if you order now and it drops lower, then you will get it at the lower price; but if you wait to order and the price goes up, then you will end up paying the higher price. Also, you can cancel a pre-order as long as you do so before they ship it. =)

Neat. And with the current USD/AUD exchange rate, I'll probably be able to order it for around the same price.

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I ended up pre-ordering it off Amazon. As for the price, it seems to be in line with European style board games like Settlers of Catan. Look at some of the Fantasy Flight Games if you want to see expensive.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy Grenemyer

Seems kind of expensive to me. I'll have a gander at the boardgame geek link from earlier in the scroll.



The price point is exactly where most of the euro style games are at. I'm pretty stoked about it but I am trying not to get too excited. Euro style games are known for their complexity and balance so there is a high bar that's been set by games like Caylus, Agricola, and Puerto Rico. I'm hoping the designers did their homework and used these games as inspiration.
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So as someone posted earlier, there is now a download of the rulebook for the game, located here. I glanced thru it, and two things immediately jumped out at me...

One is that the named Lords are those named in City of Splendors: Waterdeep. This I find rather interesting -- I would have expected them to go with the Lords in the 4E Realms, not those from prior editions. I'm quite happy to see the Lords I am familiar with -- and some of y'all likely already know how much of a fan I am of Waterdeep's unique governmental system (cryptocracy?).

The other thing is that apparently no one actually looked at any of the prior artwork, because Kyriani does not and has never looked like a drow. Even though she is half-drow, she has always looked like a regular half-elf. Her unique background sets her apart that way: other half-drow (like Shindia Darkeyes, who also had a brief appearance in the comics) do look like drow.

So I'm happy about the Lords they picked, and irked that once more, prior art and information about a character was ignored.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The other thing is that apparently no one actually looked at any of the prior artwork, because Kyriani does not and has never looked like a drow. Even though she is half-drow, she has always looked like a regular half-elf. Her unique background sets her apart that way: other half-drow (like Shindia Darkeyes, who also had a brief appearance in the comics) do look like drow.




Maybe they did take her prior appearance into consideration, but decided a fully flesh dark elf would sell more. A drow that helps sell stuff, where did they get that idea?

I'll be looking at the ruleset soon.
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A quick look is enough to realize that it is heavily inspired by Caylus, which is my favorite game (and I've played many). Heck, they use the same tokens and resources blocks.

This cannot suck, I can't wait.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kilvan

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The other thing is that apparently no one actually looked at any of the prior artwork, because Kyriani does not and has never looked like a drow. Even though she is half-drow, she has always looked like a regular half-elf. Her unique background sets her apart that way: other half-drow (like Shindia Darkeyes, who also had a brief appearance in the comics) do look like drow.




Maybe they did take her prior appearance into consideration, but decided a fully flesh dark elf would sell more. A drow that helps sell stuff, where did they get that idea?

I'll be looking at the ruleset soon.

Since the return of Aumanator, his church has branched-out with their services...

They now offer 'tanning Beds' in their day-spas.

Obviously, Kyriani has availed herself of these new services, during her 'down time'.

Maybe I should have put this is in the 'create FR lore' thread.


Anyhow, haven't read through this entire thread, but knowing the time-frame its set in, I now plan to purchase it (vote with your wallets people!)

Whats the premise? Has anyone tried it yet? Reviews?

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I've played it a bunch and it's a fun game. You utilize resources to advance and attempt to the win the game. You dedicate spies/agents/people to parts of the city in order to build up resource to accomplish specific quests. Once completed, you can do other things. It's hard to explain in detail, but the recently released rulebook should help. There are a couple strategies for winning the game, so it is fairly dynamic.
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

So as someone posted earlier, there is now a download of the rulebook for the game, located here. I glanced thru it, and two things immediately jumped out at me...

One is that the named Lords are those named in City of Splendors: Waterdeep. This I find rather interesting -- I would have expected them to go with the Lords in the 4E Realms, not those from prior editions. I'm quite happy to see the Lords I am familiar with -- and some of y'all likely already know how much of a fan I am of Waterdeep's unique governmental system (cryptocracy?).



Some will say I'm reading too much into it, but I think the use of classic Realms named Lords shows which version is more famous, well-established, and distinct. Love or hate the classic Realms, it's far better branded by default of decades of activity than anything WotC can put out in 4-5 short years.

In a way classic Realms is like the Old Testament. Any time Hollywood makes a movie about Moses and the Exodus or Noah and the Flood, most of the three related religions, various denominations, and many people just curious about the story will go to the cinema for a viewing. Each period removed and we start to reach a narrower and narrower base and arguably a more controversial, sensitive topic.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

One is that the named Lords are those named in City of Splendors: Waterdeep. This I find rather interesting -- I would have expected them to go with the Lords in the 4E Realms, not those from prior editions. I'm quite happy to see the Lords I am familiar with -- and some of y'all likely already know how much of a fan I am of Waterdeep's unique governmental system (cryptocracy?).
It could simply be that this is because the Lords of prior editions are those we are all "intimately" more familiar with. And given the popularity of Waterdeep over the last twenty years -- as both a setting for novels and game products... it might have just seemed like the most appropriate choice.

Regardless, I'm encouraged by this news as well. And not because I don't like the set-up for Waterdeep and the Lords in the post-Spellplague period. Rather, I'm just keen on the notion of playing and plotting with the classic Lords, as they engage in cryptocratic-warfare. [Sorry, Wooly got me started. ]

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