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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 25 Sep 2011 : 15:54:33
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| I was in the bookstore yesterday, and specifically went looking for those non-novel Harry Potter books. Not a single one. And this is the same store where I had to park a block away, hours before the release of book 6, just to be able to get in. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Sep 2011 : 20:07:49
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There are hundreds of them in our local bookstores. I understand why it's not as popular as the novels. It simply lacks the central focus that has made the novels quite sensational---and that's Harry Potter himself. Though I wouldn't call it entirely unpopular, at least in the Philippines, because it hit the No. 1 spot in the Top Ten Bestsellers of National Bookstore, Fully Booked, and Powerbooks for three weeks since its release. |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 26 Sep 2011 : 14:55:58
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| Like Wooly, I've never seen any of these books, and I'm no stranger to bookstores. I have The Tales of Beedle the Bard, and I thought that was all this setting had to offer appart from HP books. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 26 Sep 2011 : 16:55:46
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| I'm planning on buying the books, now, I just didn't know they existed, and I've never seen them before. I may have me friend that lives in O-town take a look for them... |
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Dennis
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Posted - 27 Sep 2011 : 13:41:24
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm planning on buying the books, now, I just didn't know they existed, and I've never seen them before. I may have me friend that lives in O-town take a look for them...
There's a bookstore which is just a stone's throw away from where I'm staying and it still has many stacks of Beedle; and I'd like to buy one or two for you. But you're on the other side of the planet. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 27 Sep 2011 : 14:31:41
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Originally posted by Dennis
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm planning on buying the books, now, I just didn't know they existed, and I've never seen them before. I may have me friend that lives in O-town take a look for them...
There's a bookstore which is just a stone's throw away from where I'm staying and it still has many stacks of Beedle; and I'd like to buy one or two for you. But you're on the other side of the planet.
True. I'm just going to hit the Amazon later this week, I think. There are, as always, other things on my wishlist, as well.
I appreciate the thought, though. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 30 Sep 2011 : 11:31:52
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Could an HP archmage fighting a D&D lich simply utter "Accio [Insert name]'s phylactery!"? The fight would be over, right then and there, wouldn't it?! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 30 Sep 2011 : 15:53:55
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Originally posted by Dennis
Could an HP archmage fighting a D&D lich simply utter "Accio [Insert name]'s phylactery!"? The fight would be over, right then and there, wouldn't it?!
It didn't work on the horcruxes, so Accio can be beat. And it would be a foolish lich indeed who didn't protect his phylactery. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 30 Sep 2011 : 16:12:26
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Yes. I forgot. Hermione and Harry tried it to summon the Horcruxes and failed. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2011 : 00:53:17
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| Really? Wow. Every time I've gone into a Books-A-Million or Borders(RIP) or Hastings, they're usually right there on an end-cap featured right along with the novels. And on the main shelves, too. Must be more popular here. I almost bought the critter one once, just to use in my campaigns. And on the topic at hand, I'd like to note that that disintigration spell that is "forbidden" in HP is known to quite a few wizards. Apparating is taught to every student wizard, not to mention there's the death-spell that they aren't supposed to use, but are still taught. And if that many Death-Eaters could cast those uber-fireballs, (sorry, I still say that's what they were, and not some measley magic-missle stuff) then it's obviously commonly taught as well. Making chocloate frogs animated is no mean feat, either- and they do all of this ALL THE TIME! AT WILL! Seems like thay'd give most D&D wizards a run for the money any day of the week. And I agree with the theory about the wands resonating to a wizard's energy. |
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Rhewtani
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2011 : 17:49:17
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Clearly Wooly and Alystra do not frequent the same bookstores. I'll admit I'm used to Barnes and Noble and Borders, where there are typically 2-3 book displays of the series, of which Rowling's HP universe books are included.
I'll echo the lack of accio working on a phylactery, because, really, what's the technical different between a horcux and a phylactery? |
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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Oct 2011 : 21:17:34
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I'll echo the lack of accio working on a phylactery, because, really, what's the technical different between a horcux and a phylactery?
Both carry the soul/essence of the wizards who created them, and their destruction means the complete destruction of their creators. By "complete," I mean beyond any possibilities of returning back to life, or rather "unlife." |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Oct 2011 : 22:07:33
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The creation of a phylactery involves evil described in only the vaguest (and most carefully non-offensive) generic terms. It's exactly as evil as the DM/author defines.
While the creation of an horcrux specifically involves acts of supreme evil, "secrets of the darkest art", an act of murder/sacrifice, and a tormented ripping asunder of the soul prior to binding/infusing part of it within the object. Some narrative complexities might arise from exploring which parts of the soul are stored within and without the horcrux, and how they might influence or interact with each other or their world.
It's difficult to ascertain which evil is worse; many storytellers recognize that a vicious monster howling in the woods or a few sickeningly wet shadowy thumps in an alleyway left to fester and scuttle about in one's imagination can be far worse than anything they might attempt to explicitly describe. Then again, many storytellers focus heavily on describing monsters and violence, these are specialized genres unto themselves. 4E D&D seems, to me, to target an audience with a generally lower minimum age limit (and much more simplified understanding of "evil") than Rowling's HP novels/movies, a very deliberate shift away from the sophisticated darker tones painted by some of the 3E and 2E offerings.
It should be noted that while users of horcruces (called horcruxes by Rowling) might be a bit pasty and unwholesome they are not actually undead, at least not in the same distinct terms as liches in D&D. Otherwise, phylacteries and horcruces are fairly interchangeable and essentially serve the same purpose; the wiki pages describing them actually cite each other as examples. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 : 02:34:27
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Both phylactery and horcrux are also difficult to destroy.
Their main difference, I suppose, is that the wizards who know how to make horcruxes are relatively fewer than those who know how to fashion phylacteries. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 : 22:53:31
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Perhaps. But Voldermort and his Death Eaters aren't the only "evil" wizards in HP-verse. Some from other countries would have gladly created horcruxes to attain immortality. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Oct 2011 : 23:01:59
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| We can't really know that since we've never seen any of them. AFAIK, Voldy and his followers were basically the only evil game in town. Everyone else seemed to be staying out of the fight and minding their own business. There may wellbe other evil wizards in HP, but we never hear about them. either they were not powerful enough to do it, found it too squicky to try, or were not as "evil" as the voldy gang. |
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WizardsHerb
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Oct 2011 : 00:20:53
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Duel at twenty paces? Draw spell when the dramatic music starts?
I'd cast Silence, were I the D&D Wizard. Would the "average one" depend on their specialization? I remember reading fluff about one duel involving a wizard opening with successive fireballs to throw off another who expected a different speciality, or a necromancer opening with instant death spells (and a summon creature spell after discovering the defensive wards).
How would a HP Wizard likely or favourably open? |
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Alystra Illianniis
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USA
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WizardsHerb
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Oct 2011 : 03:36:08
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It's not Slowga, is it?
So a HP Wizard has a defensive spell to counter an offensive opening, and an offensive opening that can be countered with any sort of common preparation such as Still Spell, or Freedom of Movement tacked onto something shiny.
Empowered Spell Mantle followed by utilizing a heavy wooden object such as a staff or heavy tome and a still useable BAB... |
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Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
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Posted - 14 Oct 2011 : 05:47:04
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For me it would be a spell turning. And when Voldy goes for Ak it rebounds and he has to spend months to return back to true life, unless of course something unfortunate happens to Harry!
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DND Wizard VS Harry Potter Wizard
