| Author |
 Topic  |
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
 Posted - 08 Jul 2011 : 14:29:32
|
| mmmm have to agree, but i dont think that a lot of fr villains go through many changes in the wardrobe, i mean unless you take it in context, voldemort has been compared to a lich many times in other materials, and liches generally in dnd anyway are clothed in the same robes they wore in life to the point were its rotting too, so i guess it is appropriate in a sort of lichy way. |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
 |
|
|
Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jul 2011 : 03:42:14
|
Well, I know Szass Tam did change clothes so many times. He even got to wear a dress studded with diamonds during his "coronation."
Anyway, when a Realms movie is finally made, I'd like them to show it also in 3D format. It seems to be trend of most fantasy films these days. |
Every beginning has an end. |
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2011 : 09:33:44
|
Well maybe but 3d is kind of the whole in context thing, because i dont think i would want to watch drizzt kill an orc in 3d. would you?
Besides if it was in 3d i think i would rather see szass tam than voldymort. |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jul 2011 : 02:43:46
|
I'm not fond of Drizzt, but I don't dislike him either. And I see no reason why I shouldn't like to see him kill an orc. |
Every beginning has an end. |
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jul 2011 : 10:36:53
|
Maybe a 3d movie about someone else like a origin story
"BRAINBLAST"
NETHERIL TRILOGY IN 3D
Watch and witness the rise of the Empire Of Magic and its greatest achivements and wars, before culminating in its apocalyptic destruction that has defined magic and the way we see it in the dnd universe today.
Only in cinemas. |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jul 2011 : 11:09:21
|
I would LOVE that. Anything Netherese lures me. But seeing it from a businessman's point of view, I think the producers would rather have Drizzt. It's not a bad thing entirely, so long as it effectively captures the Realms...And perhaps after 3 successful Drizzt movies, they can introduce Netheril, Waterdeep, Thay...and some of the iconic characters. |
Every beginning has an end. |
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2011 : 10:07:46
|
Oooo Thay!
Now that would be have to be very gritty and bloody, not to mention lots of CGI.
Kind of like 300 |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2011 : 10:52:40
|
Boy this conversation sure has dried up
|
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 01:33:49
|
Anyone watched the movie? I will on Monday...All seats in Imax theaters are reserved since Thursday... |
Every beginning has an end. |
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 05:08:00
|
| Maybe.... |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Eltheron
Senior Scribe
740 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2011 : 16:08:20
|
Saw the HP Deathly Hallows pt 2 movie last night. Absolutely amazing.
It was a credit to the novels, so well done in every single way, and a perfect ending to the film series.
|
"The very best possible post-fourteenth-century Realms lets down those who love the specific, detailed social, political and magical situation, with its thousands of characters, developed over forty years, and want to learn more about it; and those who'd be open to a new one with equal depth, which there just isn't time to re-produce; and those repelled, some past the point of no return, by the bad-taste-and-plausibility gap of things done to the world when its guardianship was less careful."
--Faraer |
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2011 : 09:48:44
|
| Well, maybe i will go watch it. |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 01:56:45
|
| I thoroughly enjoyed it. I was especially impressed with Mrs Weasley's fight with Bellatrix and with Neville's sudden rise to hero status. And Snape?! Wow, never saw that one coming- although it all made a certain kind of sense in retrospect. After seeing some of the spells and such in this movie, I have to say that an HP universe wizard might just give any D&D wizard a run for the money. Some of those spells were pretty potent. |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 09:09:46
|
I've seen the movie and yes the spells do look potent but nevertheless when compared to the magic of dnd which is far more varied and steeped in even deeper lore, I dont think they could win, maybe against apprentices, but archmages?
Simply put, NO WAY IN ALL THE NINE HELLS.
I mean, cgi wise, yes it did look good, but if they ever did a dnd movie, the spell duel between say maybe a shade and phaerimm, would be very spectacular indeed.
I think thats why, we dont have a proper dnd movie, too much to choose from. |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 03:29:49
|
| I dunno- that shield spell the teachers put up could easily have rivaled many a mythal. And the spells the Death-eaters were hurling to weaken/drop it? Looked like high level fireballs. And that's not even counting that uber-whammy Voldy threw at it. THAT was spectacular.... And then there's that little detail of Harry being rezzed..... I think the spells we've seen in the books and movies barely scratched the surface of what those HP wizards are capable of. |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 08:20:30
|
The shield spell pales before a mythal since a mythal is essentially epic magic with a dead elven wizard inside of it, as for the spells they used is comparable to very many magic missiles.
The reason harry was rezzed was the face that he did NOT DIE. He was voldemort's Horcrux and AK simply destroyed that part of him. I doubt that harry truly died in a sense, maybe lost for a while in some spiritual limbo, and then simply regaining conciousness. |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Thelonius
Senior Scribe
Spain
730 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 08:56:50
|
| Just watched the last movie and got to say that Rowling's mages seems more powerful than in different movies, though I still would choose D&D wizards, they seem to have a wider repertory and the contingencies. Most of the Potter's spell sometimes look more like fair tricks (turning a cat into a freakish cup) that actual spells. |
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
Sapientia sola libertas est |
|
|
|
Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 05:18:45
|
It was worth watching it in IMAX.
I don't know why others think the death of Snape in the film is different from the one in the book. It's the same, except the exact place.
Now, about the shield erected by the faculty...While it may not be as powerful as a mythal itself, it surely was potent enough that Voldemort had to command his Death Eaters to weaken it before he could completely obliterate it.
Animating those hundreds of stone guards required magical strength that could bring down giants. Voldemort's endless repertoire of spells were also astounding. And obviously, if he were the true master of the Elder Wand, he could have unleashed one single fireball that would have leveled Hogwarts.
The only thing I don't particularly like is that the film felt a bit rushed, and the epilogue was too awkward. They should have hired other people to act as adult Harry, Hermione, Ron, Ginny, etc... That was really weird. All in all, the film mostly adhered to the novel. Though I wished it could have been longer and the battles grander. We already saw that Voldy-Harry duel in the previous films that seeing it again, with little alteration whatsoever, was nearly...ordinary. |
Every beginning has an end. |
|
|
|
Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 21:19:25
|
I disagree about Harry not being dead. He had dropped the ressurection stone (good luck ever finding THAT again, lol!) and when Ms Malfoy checked him, she said he was dead. Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't Voldy HAVE to have killed him to destroy the horcrux? He had to die to destroy it, even dumbledore said if=t flat out. That palce he was in was apparently some sort of after-life waiting room (waiting to "go on"), which seems evident by the fact that dumbledore himself was there, and we KNOW he was dead. Harry's ressurection seems to have been caused by the combined effects of everyone who loved him, and Neville's speech about him still being with them. (Wish-fulfillment, perhaps?)
And I'll fully go with Dennis on that shield and the guards. That's magic that even Khelben would have been proud of! BTW, those did not look like mere magic missiles to me- they packed WAAY too much of a whallop for such a low-dmg spell.... |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
|
|
|
Eltheron
Senior Scribe
740 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 21:57:49
|
I have to agree with Alystra on this one, I think Harry died and "came back" - otherwise the horcrux in him would not have been destroyed.
Rowling herself stated on her website that although the Elder Wand wasn't functioning appropriately for Voldy, and Harry had the "Old Magic" protection of his mother's love and her sacrifice, it wasn't specifically either of those two things that saved him. Rather, I think that everything added up in order for the world to give him a choice, and Harry chose to come back and confront Voldy. Out of love for his friends, which became his new family, and to make a final stand against Voldy for all the people who had died.
Rowling said something to the effect of "beyond magic, beyond raw power, there is choice" and I agree.
|
"The very best possible post-fourteenth-century Realms lets down those who love the specific, detailed social, political and magical situation, with its thousands of characters, developed over forty years, and want to learn more about it; and those who'd be open to a new one with equal depth, which there just isn't time to re-produce; and those repelled, some past the point of no return, by the bad-taste-and-plausibility gap of things done to the world when its guardianship was less careful."
--Faraer |
|
|
|
Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
|
|
Eltheron
Senior Scribe
740 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2011 : 04:22:04
|
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Wow, Eltheron- you agree with me? I'll have to write this date down on my calendar, LOL!!
It might be part of a larger plan to lull you into complacency. 
(Damn these delicious lime popsicles, they're changing my alignment!)
|
"The very best possible post-fourteenth-century Realms lets down those who love the specific, detailed social, political and magical situation, with its thousands of characters, developed over forty years, and want to learn more about it; and those who'd be open to a new one with equal depth, which there just isn't time to re-produce; and those repelled, some past the point of no return, by the bad-taste-and-plausibility gap of things done to the world when its guardianship was less careful."
--Faraer |
|
|
|
Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2011 : 13:38:11
|
Still special effects aside, in a wizard duel I would go with the dnd wizard straight up. Of course it goes without saying that the two duelists would have to be of great skill before they took the battefield.
The elder wand is somewhat a paradox for me or at the very least an anomaly, i mean its the so called most powerful wand in the world, but Harry snaps it easily(maybe because the wand answered to him and that's what he wanted?) but if we were to compare powerful artifacts, then that would be quite the distinction wouldn't it?
Elder Wand VS Sceptre of The Sorcerer Kings
Btw i agree with you dennis, they should have gotten other actors to play adult Harry and cast, especially Ginny. |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Eltheron
Senior Scribe
740 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2011 : 16:39:21
|
I dunno... although power might be similar between the two types of wizards, the ones from Harry Potter often have speed on their side. So many damage-causing spells of theirs are nearly instant cast, and many defensive spells are just one- or two-word casts. Plus, they never run out of spells in a Vancian-magic way. Speed and unlimited casting are huge advantages, IMO. Their main disadvantage is in the requirement of wands to channel their magic for most spells, but even D&D wizards often need somatic, verbal, and material components.
The Elder Wand was pretty powerful, but even Harry and co. didn't really believe the legend that they were given by Death (at least they didn't in the books). Snapping the wand in the movie was better than what happened to it in the books, I think.
As for having the same actors play their older married selves, I kinda liked that.
|
"The very best possible post-fourteenth-century Realms lets down those who love the specific, detailed social, political and magical situation, with its thousands of characters, developed over forty years, and want to learn more about it; and those who'd be open to a new one with equal depth, which there just isn't time to re-produce; and those repelled, some past the point of no return, by the bad-taste-and-plausibility gap of things done to the world when its guardianship was less careful."
--Faraer |
|
|
|
Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2011 : 17:00:26
|
The wand-maker Ollivander said that the wand always chooses its master. I wonder if there ever was a wizard who attempted to force a wand to recognize him as master, or if such a thing was possible. Because that's exactly what Voldemort should have done; if he couldn't earn the Elder Wand's "allegiance," he could have forced it. |
Every beginning has an end. |
|
|
|
Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2011 : 19:24:38
|
| Well, Harry had Draco's old wand, and Ollivander said its allegience had changed. So apparently, it liked him better. And how do you "force" an inanimate object to obey you? It picks the person who is most suited to using it in temperament, I believe. Draco's wand had a unicorn hair, so I think it must have been naturally more suited to Harry than it's former owner. Bellatrix's wand was dragon heartstring, which makes sense for a short-tempered be-otch like her. |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
|
|
|
Xar Zarath
Senior Scribe
Malaysia
552 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2011 : 02:33:36
|
| I dont think its inanimate in any kind of way, in Brotherhood of the Griffon the wizard Jhesrhi gets a staff of fire and it has a pseudomind. Hp wands may be a bit similar. |
Everything ends where it begins. Period.
|
|
|
|
Eltheron
Senior Scribe
740 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2011 : 03:01:29
|
Just my opinion, but I don't get the sense that HP wands are sentient or have life. It seems more like they have a resonating energy of sorts, and certain wands just resonate better with one wizard over another. Certain components, the wood or the parts of the core, may lend each wand a specific type of frequency, and in that way "choose" their wizard based on the wizard's matching energy... something like that. Over time, a young wizard gets a better feel for their wand's specific energies and "masters" it.
You might be able to use any captured wand, but if your energy as a wizard is too different from the wand then it would "fight" the wizard in a sense. Some wizards of exceptional power might be able to use a number of wands within a certain frequency "range" while less skilled wizards really have to rely on a wand that matches them extremely closely.
The Elder Wand was unique, in that it could change to match any "frequency" (for lack of a better word), and "deciding" to go with the wizard that wins a duel. If a challenger wins a duel, then it changes to match its new master.
That's my personal take, anyway.
|
"The very best possible post-fourteenth-century Realms lets down those who love the specific, detailed social, political and magical situation, with its thousands of characters, developed over forty years, and want to learn more about it; and those who'd be open to a new one with equal depth, which there just isn't time to re-produce; and those repelled, some past the point of no return, by the bad-taste-and-plausibility gap of things done to the world when its guardianship was less careful."
--Faraer |
Edited by - Eltheron on 22 Jul 2011 03:06:43 |
|
|
|
Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2011 : 10:54:15
|
Interesting postulation, Eltheron. But I prefer to think the wands are quasi-sentient. Perhaps some residual sentience of the creature (dragon, unicorn, tree...) whose body parts were used as components of the wands linger in the wands themselves. |
Every beginning has an end. |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
DND Wizard VS Harry Potter Wizard
