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Acolyte
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 Posted - 11 May 2011 : 09:51:13
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I was looking at what is probably my favourite fan made series (Dead Fantasy) on youtube and got to wondering what classes would you describe these people as if they were in the realms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufy8bHxPnUk&feature=related
I was thinking
DOA/Ninja Gaiden girls - I realise Ayane and Kasumi are ninjas but they dont seem to fit the D&D ninja class.
Ayane - (purple haired with double bladed sword) - eldritch knight or some other warrior wizard cross?
Kasumi - (in blue with short sword) - a warrior with ring of teleportation and fireballs.
Hitomi - (jeans and no weapon) - monk with epic ring of strength
Rachel - (BIG hammer) - barbarian with really high strength.
Final Fantasy girls
Tifa - (black dress) - maybe a sword mage as she seems to use magic to enhance her fighting abilites. She also seems to cast regular magic which I dont think swordmages do. I thought a priestess as well because she speeds her team mates, but I'm not sure how to call that.
Yuna - (guns) - not sure what class but maybe dual wands of magic missile
Rikku - (knives) - a thief maybe?
Rinona - (wings) - wizard with a few classes of warrior.
Except for the giant tower of falling, rediculous strength and huge leaping, this is kinda how I envision fighting in my world.
Also what spells would you say are used especially for the speeding up, keeping herself in the air with a shield, the tornados, that black constricting ball thing used on hitomi, and beams of teleportaion?
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Edited by - boards on 11 May 2011 11:28:06
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Sill Alias
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Posted - 11 May 2011 : 12:37:55
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That depends on which edition you want to use to judge them.
Why Tifa is sword mage and not monk/wizard?
Rinoa is definitely sorceress. Almost like in FF8, she has natural raw power.
Yuna - with the way she can change her powers, I would say her main class is bard.
There are enough spells to do that, actually. |
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Acolyte
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Posted - 11 May 2011 : 13:51:54
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Hi Sill, thanks for the reply
I should say I have never played final fantasy so I don't know anything about what they're like outside of this video series. In the FR I only really read the stories and the source books for the backstory on these novels so I really don't understand the mechanics.
Now with that said, I'm not worried about the edition used, just whatever fits best. This video is number two of five, and I only chose to show this one because it has the most characters and best shows their skills. The first episode only has Kasumi, Ayane, Yuna and Rikku and their skills dont really change. The third episode is a fight between Hitomi and Tifa, the fourth between Yuna and Kasumi, and the fith is Tifa vs a horde of ninja with a different style.
I went with swordmage for Tifa because in this episode and the third she blends fighting and magic seemlessly, often casting spells as she punches. That seems what a sword mage does, just she doesn't have a sword so this would be a varient. In the fith episode, she has no magic and uses weapons including swords, which is one reason why I didn't show those episode as they didn't go where I wanted this thread, and AFAIK is against monk rules. So a monk/wizard cross would be ok for this episode, but I had the idea that a dual class character like this, can fight and also cast magic but not be expected to use them at the same time. Really I simply didn't even think of monk for her. I'm quite likely completely wrong here, so monk wizard is probably best
Rinoa, sorceress/wizard either one I'm happy with.
Yuna, does a bard have that much fighting ability? In terms of your comment about changing powers, I guess your talking about her summoning ability. I was ignoring other episodes so I didn't comment on that. Does a bard have those summoning skills?
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Dracons
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Posted - 11 May 2011 : 14:26:38
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Well each Final Fantasy game is a bit different in the battle systems...
Tifa: From FF7, was considered a monk type because of her unarmed fighting style. However, since FF7 had the Materia system, she could cast spells. Basically each armor or weapon each character had slots that you could put whatever spells you want in it to use with that character.
Yuna: From FF10. She was a summoner/White Mage (Cleric) from FF10. In FF X 2 (The sequel) Is when she gained the guns as in previous game tech was banned. In FF X 2, a bard would be a perfect fit as that game allowed your characters to change to whatever class you want, anytime, even during battle.
Riku: From FF10 and FF X 2 too: In FF10 she was a thief. In FFX 2, she could change to whatever class she wanted, evne during battle.
Rinoa: From FF8. That game had the Junction system, where you draw magic for a couple hours from each character and added to your stats. Only game where monsters level up with you. While she never had that kind of power in the game, she could be considered a sorcerer as she was called that during the game, despite never using those type of powers like other sorcerers did.
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 11 May 2011 : 18:09:39
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Originally posted by boards
Final Fantasy girls
Tifa - (black dress) - maybe a sword mage as she seems to use magic to enhance her fighting abilites. She also seems to cast regular magic which I dont think swordmages do. I thought a priestess as well because she speeds her team mates, but I'm not sure how to call that.
Yuna - (guns) - not sure what class but maybe dual wands of magic missile
Rikku - (knives) - a thief maybe?
Rinona - (wings) - wizard with a few classes of warrior.
-Tifa: Monk
-Yuna: Wizard (emphasis on summon spells)
-Rikku: Rogue
-Rinoa: Sorcerer |
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Acolyte
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Posted - 11 May 2011 : 23:23:58
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
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Originally posted by boards
Final Fantasy girls
Tifa - (black dress) - maybe a sword mage as she seems to use magic to enhance her fighting abilites. She also seems to cast regular magic which I dont think swordmages do. I thought a priestess as well because she speeds her team mates, but I'm not sure how to call that.
Yuna - (guns) - not sure what class but maybe dual wands of magic missile
Rikku - (knives) - a thief maybe?
Rinona - (wings) - wizard with a few classes of warrior.
-Tifa: Monk
-Yuna: Wizard (emphasis on summon spells)
-Rikku: Rogue
-Rinoa: Sorcerer
While a monk suits Tifa's fighting skills it lacks anything to explain her magical abilities in the Forgotten Realms. I realise from what Dracons said that monks could use materia to cast spells, I am unaware of anything like that in the FR.
A wizard class for Yuna fits in the video where she fights Kasumi, in this video she shows to much acrabatics and combat abilities to be purely wizard.
I'm not trying to find out what class they are in Final Fantasy but what class best suits the talents shown in this video.
Seeing as how all the comments so far have been on the FF girls does that mean that you agree with my classes for the Dead or Alive girls, especially for Ayane and Kasumi?
I did find Dracons post about the different types of mechanics interesting especially about the materia.
This video between Hitomi and Tifa shows Hitomi knocking different coloured glowing balls that she then uses to power a "spell". I presume this is materia?
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sfdragon
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Posted - 12 May 2011 : 04:48:18
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in 4e monk has nifty psi powers
in 3.x monk/wizard/enlightened fist... |
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 12 May 2011 : 06:15:13
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Originally posted by boards
While a monk suits Tifa's fighting skills it lacks anything to explain her magical abilities in the Forgotten Realms. I realise from what Dracons said that monks could use materia to cast spells, I am unaware of anything like that in the FR.
-Materia (what allows Tifa to use magical spells) is an item. If you take away her Fire materia, let's say, she doesn't have the ability to use magic. So, she'd still be a Monk, but she'd be a Monk with magical items that allow her to mimic certain spells, depending on what the item does. As for what would mimic materia, Gem Magic.
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Originally posted by boards
A wizard class for Yuna fits in the video where she fights Kasumi, in this video she shows to much acrabatics and combat abilities to be purely wizard.
-A high DEX score, maxed out skill point in the applicable skills (Jump, Tumble, whatever), and any applicable feats that augment said skills. |
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Sill Alias
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Posted - 12 May 2011 : 08:07:16
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Who said wizard cannot be athletic? Who said wizards cannot be brawny muscled giants? Everyone remembers one certain wizard from BG2?
Oh, and I know that there is ninja class, so it can be used for DOA girls.
Sorcerer is essential with not using any components for spells, so it is ideal fit with Rinoa. Maybe 3-4 fighter... No, wait! Ranger levels, cause she has a trained dog!
Tifa... Exactly, materia. It is on the same level as mythallar of the Netherese era.
Yuna... Hard to gather. I think instead of wizard it will be right to use cleric for first part of the game. But FFX-2 changes it all completely. I guess bard after all with varying classes. |
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AleksanderTheGreat
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Posted - 12 May 2011 : 08:44:20
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Oh, and I know that there is ninja class, so it can be used for DOA girls.
They're called ninjas but it doesn't mean that they are NINJAS as the class. Other classes make better ninja then Ninja. |
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Sill Alias
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Posted - 12 May 2011 : 08:49:50
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| And do not forget numerous PrCs that have 'ninja' in them and use mystic arts. |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 13 May 2011 : 04:52:58
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| Those two might easily be ninja/shinobi. Rinoa would definitely be a sorcerer/ranger (for the dog). Yuna would be sorcerer/bard- her summoning would come from the sorcerer class, and her other abilities would be from the bard class. Tifa is most certainly a monk/wizard/enlightened fist by this, or just a monk with gem magic use. (Personally, I prefer the enlightened fist route, as it would easily explain her magic use without resorting to items.) Rikku is a rogue for certain, and |
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