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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 23 Aug 2013 :  04:59:45  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Big C is doing a fine job...considering that the elves are on the upswing in the Forgotten Realms...just saying.

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sfdragon
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Posted - 23 Aug 2013 :  05:41:11  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
you know what as far as Corellon not helping his children in that whatever it was game, did any one of you ever consider the possible fact that AO told him no, or hinted grander things to come regardless how the game ended to him???


edit: made something clearer

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Edited by - sfdragon on 23 Aug 2013 05:46:53
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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 23 Aug 2013 :  05:44:46  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I fully admit I did not think of that, other than Ao not wanting the gods to be so involved with mortal affairs. I love Corellon, I was just trying to look at different possibilities, since so many people seem to hate him.

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 23 Aug 2013 :  05:47:12  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

I fully admit I did not think of that, other than Ao not wanting the gods to be so involved with mortal affairs. I love Corellon, I was just trying to look at different possibilities, since so many people seem to hate him.



I don't know why anyone would hate him...I think he is a bad-arse! Not my favorite God...but one of my favorite Birthright Characters was molded after him! I played that character exactly the way Big C was detailed in his attitude, arms, armor...almost everything. The only difference being that my Caelcormac was a bit more eager to deal death to humans...

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JohnLynch
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Posted - 23 Aug 2013 :  12:53:58  Show Profile Send JohnLynch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

I would be interested in if you could tie Golarion in with this though! Do you have access to any of that material related to the Decent of the Drow there?
Timeline wise I've connected Golarion and the Forgotten Realms through Egypt and the Mulhorandi exodus.

-8650 DR / 6434 BC / -9009 YK / -9388 CY / -5293 AR: Azlant falls on Golarion and the Age of Darkness begins.

-6827 DR / 4611 BC / -7186 YK / -7565 CY / -3470 AR: Ancient Osirion is founded on Golarion.

-5266 DR / 3050 BC / -5625 YK / -6006 CY / -1909 AR: An-Hepsu XI establishes a portal to Earth and conquers before Upper and Lower Egypt.

-4788 DR / 2572 BC / -5147 YK / -5528 CY / -1431 AR: Ancient Osirion declines once more and the portal between Earth and Golarion is lost.

-4366 DR / 2150 BC / -4725 YK / -5104 CY / -1009 AR: Portal opens from Toril to Earth and the first influx of slaves come through.

-3966 DR / 1750 BC / -4325 YK / -4704 CY / -609 AR: Portal closes from Toril to Earth after the second influx of slaves come through.

1357 DR / 3573 AD / 998 YK / 579 CY / 4714 AR: Current Year

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Unfortunately my timeline is off by 1,000 years or so if you want the Descent of the Drow on Toril to match up with the arrival of Drow on Golarion. You could easily shift Golarion time 1,000 years off to match it up given there's no canon connection between Ancient Osirion and Earth. But to me Ancient Osirion and Egypt are definitely connected. The culture of Ancient Osirion appears to be pretty much the same as Ancient Egypt. Also if you shift Golarion by 1,000 years it means that present day Golarion (as depicted in the books) doesn't match up with present day Forgotten Realms (as depicted in the original boxed set).

Perhaps on Golarion the drow were excommunicated but weren't driven underground and instead were simply driven out of the elven communities. It wasn't until Earthfall that the drow fled underground.

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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 23 Aug 2013 :  18:19:09  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

I fully admit I did not think of that, other than Ao not wanting the gods to be so involved with mortal affairs. I love Corellon, I was just trying to look at different possibilities, since so many people seem to hate him.



I don't know why anyone would hate him...I think he is a bad-arse! Not my favorite God...but one of my favorite Birthright Characters was molded after him! I played that character exactly the way Big C was detailed in his attitude, arms, armor...almost everything. The only difference being that my Caelcormac was a bit more eager to deal death to humans...



Corellon is my favorite deity (thus my name), but I've seen many comments on how much people dislike him.

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Lord Bane
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Posted - 23 Aug 2013 :  18:28:26  Show Profile Send Lord Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Corellon is not so cool in my opinion. Sure he may be the elven overdeity and all that but i would go with sfdragon and pledge when it comes to elven deities my interest to Sehanine Moonbow or the Dark Hunter

The driving force in the multiverse is evil, for it forces good to act.

Edited by - Lord Bane on 23 Aug 2013 18:28:54
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TBeholder
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Posted - 23 Aug 2013 :  19:18:47  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

you know what as far as Corellon not helping his children in that whatever it was game, did any one of you ever consider the possible fact that AO told him no, or hinted grander things to come regardless how the game ended to him???
No. Most of involved deities aren't limited to Realmspace in the first place. And specifically Seldarine are molly-coddling elves all the time. Which is also the most obvious reason why elves act moronic more often than not: when they occasionally manage to discover the frying pan's real temperature, this data gets discarded as an inexplicable anomaly, if not human (or drow) conspiracy, because they get their butts saved from almost all contacts with the cast iron surface covered in sizzling oil.
No, there's no way around this that won't be utterly ludicrous. The whole plot of LP can stand for ten seconds without keeling over and getting buried under all the inconsistencies growing out of it only if everything related to just about every subject involved is blatantly retconned to fit it.

quote:
Originally posted by CorellonsDevout

Corellon is my favorite deity (thus my name), but I've seen many comments on how much people dislike him.

I think people just dislike "The People" in general. Because, in the words of one Aperusa -
quote:
This one calls you "sir". An elf shows you respect? If you are not great captain, you must be small god.
So, while Corellon obviously is humility incarnate for the head of an elven pantheon, given the attitude of an average mortal elf, this... doesn't sound quite like it would in just about any other case.

People never wonder How the world goes round -Helloween
And even I make no pretense Of having more than common sense -R.W.Wood
It's not good, Eric. It's a gazebo. -Ed Whitchurch
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