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Quale
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 20 Feb 2011 : 13:12:52
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Quale
Generally in D&D, the Sidhelien from Birthright, then the Aerenal.
I like the Aerenal as well. And the Undying Court for that matter. In fact, I've been tinkering with a baelnorn-like concept for the Aerenal elves of EBERRON.
The baelnorn are perfect for them, maybe change the name, the ''norn'' part sounds a bit norse.
They stand out among other elven D&D cultures, unique and alien enough to fit in my FR. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
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3750 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2011 : 20:22:31
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
Of course they aren't heroes. Heroes bore the hell out of me. Give me anti heroes and anti villains and villain protaganists. Those are the people that fascinate me. Heroes? The hell do I want to read about another hero for?
As for the size thing, I think it is clear at this point that there's nothing I'm going to say to make you see the appeal I have for the big, powerful characters(male and female). Same way around, I don't think there's anything your gonna say to make me see the appeal of the little guy.
To each his own, of course. I'm just saying that I think big guy anti-heroes are just as boring as you find the smaller (or more NORMAL, IMO) hero types. Both are really over-used tropes, but at least the heroes usually have a GOOD reason to be running around with a sword. I dislike most villains because they all seem to be of the "take over/destroy the world" sorts. How dumb is THAT?! Once you've taken over the world, then you just have the endless headaches of trying to RUN it. And we all know how hard that is. Just running a single country is more than most people can handle.... And then there's the constant worry about assassins, peasant uprisings, your own forces turning on you.... Who NEEDS that? Most villains are villains for really dumb reasons.
Or, if he's out to destroy it, THEN what??! He doesn't even get to live long enough to appreciate what he's done! (You know, cause he already destroyed everything, and himself along with it.) I'd rather these big bad types with the death wishes just commit suicide and save the hero the trouble of killing them. But no, they always want to take out as many other people with them as possible. Sheesh. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Feb 2011 : 21:36:47
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Don't get me wrong, I don't like big guy antihero types at face value. I will take a smaller speed/skill character done well over a big guy done badly. Bruce Lee, not a huge guy, loved him in each of his movies. Tony Jaa, not a huge guy, was great in The Protector. Jet Li- ok, I'm gonna go off on a martial arts movie rant if I don't stop myself.
As for villains, I tend to like them better because they tend to be the more complex and interesting characters. They drive the plot; hell, they are the plot half the time. Their phsycology and motivations can be truly fascinating to me. I mentioned the elf prince from Hellboy earlier, and he's a great example of this(though in that case I admittedly like Hellboy better, if only because of Ron Pearlman). |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
1221 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2011 : 21:53:35
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Another reason I like the big characters is that when they fight it tends to be more straight up, head to head, and brutal. And I prefer that to the flashy, duck dodge weave spin style of the speedy types(another reason I like Lee and Jaa, very direct styles). If its done well, I can appreciate and enjoy the faster guy fight scene, especially if its between two smaller guys because that doesn't have the fake suspense of the david/golaith scenario attached to it, it's just two guys fighting.
But with elves...Drizzt fighting against Artemis is alright because its pretty much what I just discribed. Drizzt fighting Obould is rediculous because they literally had to have the big guy be blessed by a god before he could pose a threat and beat an elf in a one on one fight. When you've taken it to that level and said that elves are that good, it becomes absurd. Of course this is bleeding into my rant against monster races being used as cannonfodder by writers and how it kills all tension and threat they might pose. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
37010 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2011 : 02:43:28
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| Okay, I'd really like to see us return to discussing elves, not fighting styles. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 21 Feb 2011 : 07:03:12
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I've changed my mind. Lets talk about elves.
My favorite elves are drow. When I say "favorite, I mean "favorite to watch be killed in various painful and creative ways." My favorite method of disposing with them is by tossing them to a pit full of mindflayers and watching them fight over the snack. I'm also fond about pitting them unarmed against more physically powerful creatures and listening with utter glee and delight as their bones are shattered and their limbs ripped from their bodies. Oh what a wonderful crunching sound it does make. And fire. Oh nothing gets me in the mood for some bbq quite like the smell of drow burning in hellfire. Absolutely mouthwatering.
I'm rather frustrated at the moment by my lack of a proper computer on which to theraputically write about these things at great length and detail. Oh well. The power of the imagination will have to suffice. |
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Snowblood
Senior Scribe
Australia
388 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2011 : 11:25:52
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| just to get into the spirit of things my favourites are Rock Elves, Shadow Elves & Ghost Elves.....work out those connections... |
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Aryalómë
Senior Scribe
USA
666 Posts |
Posted - 21 Feb 2011 : 21:41:11
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| Well, I never intended for this scroll to attract Tel-Quessir haters.......To tell you the truth, I just wanted to start a discussion for people (like me!!) who are obsessed (or at least like them XD) and just talk about wh we love them and the sib-races. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 22 Feb 2011 : 04:12:42
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Take CoA's comments on elves with a few grains (handful) of salt....
Drizzt vs Obould. Well, that's taking things a bit out of context, actually. Obould was given those powers as a sign of his god's favor of his course, NOT so he could be a threat to Drizzt personally. In fact, he was already more than a match for most elves even before that ritual.Most of his threat was not so much from the ritual, but from his cunning tactics and his sword and armor. He was a powerhouse and a brutal fighter LONG before he ever fought Drizzt. |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
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Joran Nobleheart
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Everyone's Favorite Tel-Quessir Races!
