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Ayrik
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Posted - 09 Feb 2011 :  17:42:06  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd be interested in your thoughts about the 1E (unrevised) Deities & Demigods adaptation of the Nehwon mythos, Wooly.

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I'd be interested in your thoughts about the 1E (unrevised) Deities & Demigods adaptation of the Nehwon mythos, Wooly.



I have not yet replaced that book, so I can't really make any commentary on its content.

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Ayrik
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Better move on it; this book grows increasingly more difficult (and expensive) to obtain all the time.

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Wooly Rupert
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Better move on it; this book grows increasingly more difficult (and expensive) to obtain all the time.



Indeed. But my funding is not nearly as free-flowing as I should like, particularly with a baby on the way. Replacing my 1E and 2E core stuff hasn't been any kind of priority for me. I'm not sure that I'll ever replace that book -- I've seen it go for more than I want to spend, and in worse condition than the one I had.

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The Sage
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I'd keep an eye out on nobleknight.com, especially since copies of various degrees of condition, often pop up at varying prices. If you aren't too fussed about the condition of the book, it could be an option of those desperate to get their hands on a copy.

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I'd keep an eye out on nobleknight.com, especially since copies of various degrees of condition, often pop up at varying prices. If you aren't too fussed about the condition of the book, it could be an option of those desperate to get their hands on a copy.



My copy was in very good condition, considering its age. I'm unlikely to find a copy in the same shape for any price I'd consider reasonable.

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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Feb 2011 :  23:55:50  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
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I'd keep an eye out on nobleknight.com, especially since copies of various degrees of condition, often pop up at varying prices. If you aren't too fussed about the condition of the book, it could be an option of those desperate to get their hands on a copy.



My copy was in very good condition, considering its age. I'm unlikely to find a copy in the same shape for any price I'd consider reasonable.

Since I tend to haunt a great many second-hand book sites, I'll keep an eye out for you anyway. Just in case.

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Lady Fellshot
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  00:38:30  Show Profile  Visit Lady Fellshot's Homepage Send Lady Fellshot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

Okay, I always mess up the meaning of contemporary in discussions. When I hear it, I think "of the modern age" and not "of the same time". But Tolkien's peers when he wrote Lord of the Rings are still read and bought today: C.S. Lewis, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, and Charles Williams are prime examples of this and others (such as H.G. Wells, L. Frank Baum, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, J.M. Barrie, Edgar Rice Burroughs, and A.A. Milne) were ahead of Tolkien by only a decade or so and have lasted just as long.

I do agree that the "general populace" knows these authors and their characters more by the movies and such based on the original stories, but as long as the story is told, then there will be those that seek out the original books.



Well, the usage of "modern" and "contemporary" have different meanings depending on what you apply them to as well, hence my qualification of using the art style definition earlier. There are certain books I would call "post-modern" because I think that label fits better than "contemporary fantasy." It goes without saying that we could probably discuss trends in the fantasy genre until cats evolve thumbs and still not have consensus though.

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Dennis
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  00:57:04  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Fellshot

quote:
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Classical fantasy is a combination of two subgenres: high fantasy and sword and sorcery. It is preponderated by its medievalist form, which traced back to Tolkien's works.



Ah. I would say that there's a little more to it than the medieval stasis it seems to frequently find itself in, but Thank you for answering.



Which subgenre do you like most?

While I generally favor classical, I find fairytale fantasy and dark fantasy quite interesting as well, especially the novels by Neil Gaiman, Stephen King, and C.S. Friedman.

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Lady Fellshot
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  06:28:57  Show Profile  Visit Lady Fellshot's Homepage Send Lady Fellshot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's strange but I can't really say that I have a favorite subgenre at this point in my life. If you had asked me a few years ago, I would have said sword and sorcery but I'm finding that to be less the case these days. Things that have the trappings of horror and some parts of the "new weird" are catching my attention. Things with a steampunk flavor to them are scratching an itch I didn't know I had.

Ummm... I think I'll have to go with "subgenre mashups."

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Dennis
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I occasionally read steampunk. Alan Campbell and S.M. Peters's novels are fine, but fail to really grab me. [Despite an interesting setting---a city held in chains---half of Campbell's Scar Night is boring.]

I wonder what brought about the sudden reemergence of steampunk. Even YA literature has a lot of it these days.

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Dennis
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I used to have this weird habit [back in high school] of putting multiple bookmarks. I marked those scenes I found interesting, annoying, provocative, and out-of-this-world crazy. When I finish a book, I usually ended up placing twenty or more bookmarks. 'Twas very helpful when I wrote reviews.

Now I only use one, and sometimes, if I can finish a book in one sitting, none at all.

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Therise
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  14:40:36  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I read books mostly on computer or my iPhone, so people often think I'm texting.

That doesn't seem all that weird, I guess.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  17:28:44  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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I used to have this weird habit [back in high school] of putting multiple bookmarks. I marked those scenes I found interesting, annoying, provocative, and out-of-this-world crazy. When I finish a book, I usually ended up placing twenty or more bookmarks. 'Twas very helpful when I wrote reviews.

Now I only use one, and sometimes, if I can finish a book in one sitting, none at all.

Never used bookmarks. Just always remembered which page I was on.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  17:44:34  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How DO you do that, Ashe? I have a hard enough time even remembering my own phone-number, much less a page number in a book I am in! Then again, numbers have never been my strong point. I can, however, remember the CONTENT of a book. Even certain details and their approximate location in said book.

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  21:19:10  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Math SPU chip in my head.

Actually, I just have a gift for numbers. I no longer remember phone numbers that well (more because they're saved on the phone, so I never needed to memorize them), but I do have credit card numbers and such memorized.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  21:25:58  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a stack of bookmarks that I rotate thru... I mostly use lami (idol cards, little laminated cards with anime art on them) when reading novels, shitajiki (pencil boards, plastic sheets with anime art) for game material, and for my manga, I use as a bookmark a piece from the big light-up menu from the Pizza Hut I used to work at.

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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I used to have this weird habit [back in high school] of putting multiple bookmarks. I marked those scenes I found interesting, annoying, provocative, and out-of-this-world crazy. When I finish a book, I usually ended up placing twenty or more bookmarks. 'Twas very helpful when I wrote reviews.

Now I only use one, and sometimes, if I can finish a book in one sitting, none at all.

Never used bookmarks. Just always remembered which page I was on.



If I'm reading only ONE novel [which happens very rarely], I don't use bookmarks. But you see, I read about 5 or more books at the same time. I stop at one, resume on another, stop again, and get the next...and so on...I'll get lost if I don't use a bookmark on each novel.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  21:26:51  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I could remember page numbers, but it's easier to be able to open directly to the page.

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Alystra Illianniis
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ditto to that.

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Dennis
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  21:41:21  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I could remember page numbers, but it's easier to be able to open directly to the page.



That, too.

There are times when I stop reading in the middle of a book and am uncertain when exactly to resume. Sometimes it takes a week, a month, or more before something miraculous happens and makes me want to give it one last chance. In such cases, I find a bookmark very helpful.

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Brynweir
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Posted - 10 Feb 2011 :  22:35:21  Show Profile Send Brynweir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I used to collect bookmarks, but I don't use them. I just remember where I am in the books. All too often something would happen and the bookmark would fall out or someone pulled it... easier just to remember. Of course remembering was easier when I was younger... What was I saying?

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He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.

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Dennis
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I'm fine with water. But one of my friends cannot read without bottles or cans of Coke, Pepsi, Mirinda, or/and SM Beer.

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BlackAce
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I've never been able to read multiple fiction books simultaniously. I can switch between a novel and a history book for example but hate trying to read two stories at the same time. I tried reading Sharpe's Sword at the same time as Guards Guards! It was no good, I had to put one aside while I finished the other.
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The Sage
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Posted - 11 Feb 2011 :  00:00:49  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Therise

I read books mostly on computer or my iPhone, so people often think I'm texting.

That doesn't seem all that weird, I guess.


I'm much the same. I'll often either have science-news websites or PDFs, or whatever for reading on SagePhone, so even when I don't have a printed book with me, I've got something to read via my phone. In fact, my phone is used more as an electronic reader than anything else, really.

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I have a stack of bookmarks that I rotate thru... I mostly use lami (idol cards, little laminated cards with anime art on them) when reading novels, shitajiki (pencil boards, plastic sheets with anime art) for game material, and for my manga, I use as a bookmark a piece from the big light-up menu from the Pizza Hut I used to work at.

I use doubles of cards from all the various collectible-card-games/trading-cards I've purchased over the years. They stretch all the way back to the first Transformers trading cards back in the late 80's and come up through to the latest edition of Magic: The Gathering.

If I don't have any cards on hand to use as bookmarks, it's either whatever else is around and applicable. Strips of paper, handkerchief, napkin, pen, pencil, magazine, another book!, a sock,... you get the idea.

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Sock? I hope it's yours.

I sometimes run out of bookmarks, but I haven't tried a sock---ever.

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Sock? I hope it's yours.
Mine, or the Lady K's. And they're always clean.
quote:
I sometimes run out of bookmarks, but I haven't tried a sock---ever.
It's kinda of strange, actually, when you look over my current reading stack, and see two or three socks jutting out between pages in a few novels. It jeopardises the stability of the stack, but I'm always careful around it so as not to jolt or shake it.

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I've never been able to read multiple fiction books simultaniously. I can switch between a novel and a history book for example but hate trying to read two stories at the same time. I tried reading Sharpe's Sword at the same time as Guards Guards! It was no good, I had to put one aside while I finished the other.



Reading multiple fiction books is fun, as long as you don't do it in the same series. If you're in the middle of THE MAKING OF A MAGE, and jump to ELMINSTER IN MYTH DRANNOR, then go over THE TEMPTATION OF ELMINSTER, surely you'll have a headache.

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Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I have a stack of bookmarks that I rotate thru... I mostly use lami (idol cards, little laminated cards with anime art on them) when reading novels, shitajiki (pencil boards, plastic sheets with anime art) for game material, and for my manga, I use as a bookmark a piece from the big light-up menu from the Pizza Hut I used to work at.

I use doubles of cards from all the various collectible-card-games/trading-cards I've purchased over the years. They stretch all the way back to the first Transformers trading cards back in the late 80's and come up through to the latest edition of Magic: The Gathering.

If I don't have any cards on hand to use as bookmarks, it's either whatever else is around and applicable. Strips of paper, handkerchief, napkin, pen, pencil, magazine, another book!, a sock,... you get the idea.



I used to use doubles of CCGs and various cards, as well, but my stack of bookmarks got way too high. I think it still is, but I like variety... And when I'm reading books from one trilogy/series, I try to make sure I pick lami from one series. Right now, with the Lankhmar books, I'm going thru some of my Love Hina lami cards.

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