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swifty
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Posted - 30 Jan 2011 :  21:58:25  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
just wondering what peoples thought were on which decade was better for the quality of the novels that came out.id have to give the 00s the edge.the brilliant scions of arrabar trilogy by thomas reid and the essential cities series.and the emergence of paul kemp to boot.although i do believe that the drizzt novels were far stronger in the 90s.
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Posted - 30 Jan 2011 :  22:17:32  Show Profile  Visit Arcanus's Homepage Send Arcanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For me both of the times had their fair share of great books and tripe. Maybe slightly less tripe in the 90's
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Almost all of my fave Realms novels came out in the 90s.
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The Sage
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I can't say. Some of my favourites came from the 80's, like Spellfire, the 90's, such as Elfshadow and Elfsong, and the 00's, which include Blackstaff, Ed's "Knights of Myth Drannor" trilogy, and Erik's Depths of Madness.
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Dennis
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Most of my faves are in the 00's, but I have some as well in the 90's. So a tie for me.
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Pretty even keel for me.
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90's...
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Caolin
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Honestly in order it's the 80's, 90's, and the 00's for me. But I wouldn't say that the novels got worse. I think the luster and shine just slowly wears off as I get older. Plus with all of the edition madness mucking up the novels, it's kind of hard to maintain that original love I had for the Realms.
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swifty
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for me the novels really dipped in the late 90s.idont think they dipped that much in the 00s.i mean the harpers went on far too long and does anyone remember the truly awful nobles series.
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quote:
Originally posted by swifty

for me the novels really dipped in the late 90s.idont think they dipped that much in the 00s.i mean the harpers went on far too long and does anyone remember the truly awful nobles series.


I would have liked more Harpers books, myself. Granted, there were some less-than-wonderful offerings in that series, but some of my faves also come from that run.
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Dennis
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quote:
Originally posted by swifty

for me the novels really dipped in the late 90s.idont think they dipped that much in the 00s.i mean the harpers went on far too long and does anyone remember the truly awful nobles series.


I've not read all the novels in The Nobles series. But I had fun reading The Simbul's Gift.
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by swifty

for me the novels really dipped in the late 90s.idont think they dipped that much in the 00s.i mean the harpers went on far too long and does anyone remember the truly awful nobles series.


I would have liked more Harpers books, myself. Granted, there were some less-than-wonderful offerings in that series, but some of my faves also come from that run.
Actually, I've often thought that the "Harpers" novels could have naturally progressed into a series about the Harper Schism, and the eventual creation of the Moonstars. With, perhaps, a "Moonstars" novel series following later, in a similar style to the "Harpers" series.
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Dennis
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I can't recall a Harpers novel that I like. Red Magic would have been one, had the Harpers been other than those in that book! A ridiculous centaur, a stupid druid, and a garish, annoying sorceress---what a trio! Maligor should have transmuted them into roaches.
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Sage, I liked your comment better before you corrected the typo!

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Yeah, about the "Monsters" series? That warranted a hearty laugh indeed.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
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I can't recall a Harpers novel that I like. Red Magic would have been one, had the Harpers been other than those in that book! A ridiculous centaur, a stupid druid, and a garish, annoying sorceress---what a trio! Maligor should have transmuted them into roaches.


You never read Ring of Winter or Masquerade, I'm guessing. I'd mention Elaine's books, but I'm thinking you may not be that fond of elves...
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Dennis
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quote:
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quote:
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I can't recall a Harpers novel that I like. Red Magic would have been one, had the Harpers been other than those in that book! A ridiculous centaur, a stupid druid, and a garish, annoying sorceress---what a trio! Maligor should have transmuted them into roaches.


You never read Ring of Winter or Masquerade, I'm guessing. I'd mention Elaine's books, but I'm thinking you may not be that fond of elves...


I received not a few recommendations to read Ring of Winter. I read the blurb and some reviews; I wasn't interested at all. And what's with the ridiculous talking wombats, anyway?

Oh, you're right about the elves. I guess almost all scribes here at the Keep know of my undying love for those small creatures. I tend to profess my love for them at any opportunity I've got. Just like this very moment!
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The Sage
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I can't recall a Harpers novel that I like. Red Magic would have been one, had the Harpers been other than those in that book! A ridiculous centaur, a stupid druid, and a garish, annoying sorceress---what a trio! Maligor should have transmuted them into roaches.


You never read Ring of Winter or Masquerade, I'm guessing. I'd mention Elaine's books, but I'm thinking you may not be that fond of elves...


I received not a few recommendations to read Ring of Winter. I read the blurb and some reviews; I wasn't interested at all. And what's with the ridiculous talking wombats, anyway?
Really? Ring of Winter is a particular favourite among many scribes here at Candlekeep -- myself included.

Regardless, I'd still recommend a reading of every novel published... at least once, if you're able. It's worth making your own opinions about particular novels, than basing your decision on what others have to say about them.
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Dennis
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quote:
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I'd still recommend a reading of every novel published... at least once, if you're able.


I would DIE of sheer boredom if I read ALL Drizzt novels.
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swifty
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i remember a magazine around the early to mid 90s that was very similar to dragon.they used to do book reviews.i remember war in tethyr getting 2 out of 10.i bought it regardless and they were generous with their score.anyone know the name of the mag.might have been uk only.
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Tarrok of Halruaa
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Do you mean White Dwarf, Swifty? That used to cover a whole range of different RPG products before it became exclusively Warhammer focused...
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swifty
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quote:
Originally posted by Tarrok of Halruaa

Do you mean White Dwarf, Swifty? That used to cover a whole range of different RPG products before it became exclusively Warhammer focused...
no.it no longer exists.they used to sell it in wh smith back about 94-95.only lasted a couple of years.
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Wooly Rupert
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And I was reading White Dwarf during that timeframe, at least off and on -- and it was solid GW content by that time.
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And I was reading White Dwarf during that timeframe, at least off and on -- and it was solid GW content by that time.
I still read White Dwarf, actually. Even though I preferred it when the magazine featured extensive gaming content, it's still a quality publication for all-things-Games Workshop.
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quote:
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And I was reading White Dwarf during that timeframe, at least off and on -- and it was solid GW content by that time.
I still read White Dwarf, actually. Even though I preferred it when the magazine featured extensive gaming content, it's still a quality publication for all-things-Games Workshop.


My interest in things GW dwindled a long time ago. I've still got a few of the minis and my Space Wolf Codexes, but that's about it. I actually dumped most of the minis I had and used that money/store credit to get Warmachine stuff.
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quote:
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quote:
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And I was reading White Dwarf during that timeframe, at least off and on -- and it was solid GW content by that time.
I still read White Dwarf, actually. Even though I preferred it when the magazine featured extensive gaming content, it's still a quality publication for all-things-Games Workshop.


My interest in things GW dwindled a long time ago. I've still got a few of the minis and my Space Wolf Codexes, but that's about it. I actually dumped most of the minis I had and used that money/store credit to get Warmachine stuff.
I really have to rejuvenate my interest in WARMACHINE. I don't bother with WH or WH40K as much as I used to. And by that, I mean I'm not purchasing any new miniatures. My armies for both settings are largely complete, and I'm satisfied with them. I just don't have any motivation at the moment, to start a new army -- unless a new series of Necrons are released.
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quote:
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quote:
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quote:
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And I was reading White Dwarf during that timeframe, at least off and on -- and it was solid GW content by that time.
I still read White Dwarf, actually. Even though I preferred it when the magazine featured extensive gaming content, it's still a quality publication for all-things-Games Workshop.


My interest in things GW dwindled a long time ago. I've still got a few of the minis and my Space Wolf Codexes, but that's about it. I actually dumped most of the minis I had and used that money/store credit to get Warmachine stuff.
I really have to rejuvenate my interest in WARMACHINE. I don't bother with WH or WH40K as much as I used to. And by that, I mean I'm not purchasing any new miniatures. My armies for both settings are largely complete, and I'm satisfied with them. I just don't have any motivation at the moment, to start a new army -- unless a new series of Necrons are released.


So field a Cryx army. Steam-powered undead! Iron liches are, in particular, an interesting idea to me.

And then we can continue our occasional "my faction is better than yours!" sniping. At least until you admit that I'm right, just like I am with the FedSuns.
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*in best Mod voice* Can we please get back to the topic? *snickers* Speaking of- it's hard for me to say. There were novels out of each decade that I loved, but overall, I'd have to say my favorites were from the 90's.
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So field a Cryx army. Steam-powered undead! Iron liches are, in particular, an interesting idea to me.
Hmmmm. I've been thinking of Cryx. Or Menoth, for that matter. But as you and I have discussed elsewhere... Iron liches are indeed an attractive option!
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Sorry friend. My respect for the Greater Humanity of the Capellan Confederation knows no bounds.
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quote:
Caolin

Honestly in order it's the 80's, 90's, and the 00's for me. But I wouldn't say that the novels got worse. I think the luster and shine just slowly wears off as I get older. Plus with all of the edition madness mucking up the novels, it's kind of hard to maintain that original love I had for the Realms.
Right on the money. Sturgeon's Law applies as usual, in the early days much of the fiction was comparatively unsophisticated, in recent times it's oversophisticated; some novels manage to transcend the others regardless of the decade in which they're written.
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Quale
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Overall I think the quality increased in the 00's, still a couple of novels from the 90's are my favorite.
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